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  1. I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!

  2. "I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years.
    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter

    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!"

    Ha! You're clearly a toast connoiseur, and know your ways around the
    noble crust. You're right, Big Butter isn't interested in accuracy or
    helping
    out us little guys. I remember, back before butter had gone corporate,
    they
    used to care about the consumer and address things like this. You
    can't
    blame them I suppose; Parkay kind of ruined it for everyone - the dairy
    industry
    had to keep up somehow. But I miss those days.

    The first thing you have to consider is whether or not your whole wheat
    is really
    "whole" wheat, or is just what's labelled "wheat bread," which can
    have any amount
    of whole wheat flour. These breads can be overwhelmed by a really good
    butter, although
    with standard Land-O-Lakes or store brand, they work fine. It goes
    with out saying that you're
    using unsalted.

    You might be lucky enough to live somewhere near a developing artisan
    buttermaker. These folks
    are bringing back the ancient noble art of churning as it was meant to
    be. Many use organic milk from their
    own cows. This stuff is the best. If you're using this, then you
    either should be baking your own bread or
    using artisan baked stuff.

    Plugra, or finnish butter, is availlable in specialty stores and
    high-end groceries like Whole Foods. It might even
    be availlable in normal stores like Kroger or Albertsons or Aldi. You
    can probably also buy it over the internet.

    What are you burning your bread with? I tried the fork method like
    they do in the UK, but I just couldn't master it. Maybe if I had a
    roaring fire, but it doesn't work with a gas range. I know some people
    like those retro styled hulks like Cuisinart is selling, but those are
    mostly overpriced flash. I've had perfectly good results with a thrift
    store hamilton beach two slicer. I don't like the color, but hey,
    isn't that what spray paint is for?

    Good luck and enjoy.

    Greg Zywicki
    I'm not sure who I'm making fun of.

  3. Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
    issue. Help!

    Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?

  4. "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast?

    Of course not - for Wheat toast you need sheds light as you mentioned.

    Quoted message said:

    I see nothing on the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light
    on the issue. Help!

    Dimitri

  5. "Zywicki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years.
    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter

    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!"

    Ha! You're clearly a toast connoiseur, and know your ways around the
    noble crust. You're right, Big Butter isn't interested in accuracy or
    helping
    out us little guys. I remember, back before butter had gone corporate,
    they
    used to care about the consumer and address things like this. You
    can't
    blame them I suppose; Parkay kind of ruined it for everyone - the dairy
    industry
    had to keep up somehow. But I miss those days.

    The first thing you have to consider is whether or not your whole wheat
    is really
    "whole" wheat, or is just what's labelled "wheat bread," which can
    have any amount
    of whole wheat flour. These breads can be overwhelmed by a really good
    butter, although
    with standard Land-O-Lakes or store brand, they work fine. It goes
    with out saying that you're
    using unsalted.

    You might be lucky enough to live somewhere near a developing artisan
    buttermaker. These folks
    are bringing back the ancient noble art of churning as it was meant to
    be. Many use organic milk from their
    own cows. This stuff is the best. If you're using this, then you
    either should be baking your own bread or
    using artisan baked stuff.

    Plugra, or finnish butter, is availlable in specialty stores and
    high-end groceries like Whole Foods. It might even
    be availlable in normal stores like Kroger or Albertsons or Aldi. You
    can probably also buy it over the internet.

    What are you burning your bread with? I tried the fork method like
    they do in the UK, but I just couldn't master it. Maybe if I had a
    roaring fire, but it doesn't work with a gas range. I know some people
    like those retro styled hulks like Cuisinart is selling, but those are
    mostly overpriced flash. I've had perfectly good results with a thrift
    store hamilton beach two slicer. I don't like the color, but hey,
    isn't that what spray paint is for?

    Good luck and enjoy.

    Greg Zywicki
    I'm not sure who I'm making fun of.

    Find the discussion called "Garlic Spread --> Garlic Bread" or something
    like that. :-)

  6. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
    issue. Help!

    Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?

    It was a joke. I was trying to think of a funny comeback.

    nancy

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Zywicki said:

    "I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter

    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!"

    Ha! You're clearly a toast connoiseur, and know your ways around the
    noble crust. You're right, Big Butter isn't interested in accuracy
    or helping out us little guys. I remember, back before butter had
    gone corporate, they used to care about the consumer and address
    things like this. You can't blame them I suppose; Parkay kind of
    ruined it for everyone - the dairy industry had to keep up somehow.
    But I miss those days.

    The first thing you have to consider is whether or not your whole
    wheat is really "whole" wheat, or is just what's labelled "wheat
    bread," which can have any amount of whole wheat flour. These breads
    can be overwhelmed by a really good butter, although with standard
    Land-O-Lakes or store brand, they work fine. It goes with out saying
    that you're using unsalted.

    You might be lucky enough to live somewhere near a developing artisan
    buttermaker. These folks are bringing back the ancient noble art of
    churning as it was meant to be. Many use organic milk from their own
    cows. This stuff is the best. If you're using this, then you either
    should be baking your own bread or using artisan baked stuff.

    Plugra, or finnish butter, is availlable in specialty stores and
    high-end groceries like Whole Foods. It might even be availlable in
    normal stores like Kroger or Albertsons or Aldi. You can probably
    also buy it over the internet.

    What are you burning your bread with? I tried the fork method like
    they do in the UK, but I just couldn't master it. Maybe if I had a
    roaring fire, but it doesn't work with a gas range. I know some
    people like those retro styled hulks like Cuisinart is selling, but
    those are mostly overpriced flash. I've had perfectly good results
    with a thrift store hamilton beach two slicer. I don't like the
    color, but hey, isn't that what spray paint is for?

    Quoted message said:


    Good luck and enjoy.

    Greg Zywicki
    I'm not sure who I'm making fun of.

    You covered the territory nicely, though. Good job, Greg! LOL! I'm
    particularly fond of the lines about butter going corporate!
    --
    -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
    "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
    say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
    performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, "Doug Kanter"

    Quoted message said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
    issue. Help!

    Shame on you, Doug Kanter! LOL!! Dimitri should get a prize for the
    Shedd's comment.
    --
    -Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sweet Potato Follies added 2/24/05.
    "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
    say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
    performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

  9. "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Doug Kanter"

    Quoted message said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
    issue. Help!

    Shame on you, Doug Kanter! LOL!! Dimitri should get a prize for the
    Shedd's comment.

    Forgive me. Maybe. :-) Or, not.

  10. "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Doug Kanter"

    Quoted message said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
    issue. Help!

    Shame on you, Doug Kanter! LOL!! Dimitri should get a prize for the
    Shedd's comment.

    Forgive me. Maybe. :-) Or, not.

    Next question - How do you make instant water?

  11. Nancy Young said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
    issue. Help!

    Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?

    It was a joke. I was trying to think of a funny comeback.

    nancy

    "No, the rule is Vegamite on whole wheat and Crisco on white.
    You ust remember to match the colors."

    ;-)
    gloria p

  12. Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for


    years.

    Quoted message said:

    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the


    butter

    Quoted message said:

    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!

    I don't have an answer. I checked out:

    Butter Is Best
    http://www.butterisbest.com/

    The American Butter Institute
    http://www.butterinstitute.org/

    If even checked (God forgive me) Margarine.org
    http://www.margarine.org/

    Even the Toaster Museum had no answer.

    The Toaster Museum
    http://www.toaster.org/

    Here is an article about how various breads held up to toasting, but
    nothing about buttering them.

    http://www.jsonline.com/entree/cooking/may03/142616.asp

    I would butter the underside of the whole wheat toast and see how that
    works.

    ;-)

    Rusty

  13. Nancy Young said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for
    years. Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on
    the butter wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the
    issue. Help!

    Why the heck would the type of bread matter as to the use of butter?

    It was a joke. I was trying to think of a funny comeback.

    nancy

    Sorry.... I haven't gotten much sleep since the call from Damsel and other
    goings on. I'm usually sharper than a dull tack but not today 🙁

    Jill

  14. it's a feeble attempt at either humor or trolling.

  15. Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for years.
    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the butter
    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!


    Sticking a spoonful of butter in your mouth is pure delight. Who needs
    bread 😉

  16. <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    it's a feeble attempt at either humor or trolling.

    It was funny, he was mocking another post. I laughed.

    nancy

  17. "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    it's a feeble attempt at either humor or trolling.

    It was funny, he was mocking another post. I laughed.

    nancy

    Thank you for being awake, Nancy. :-) Lately, I have little patience for
    helplessness in the kitchen, and people who need a full-scale online
    investigation and a call to the Vatican, just to figure out what can be done
    with garlic spread. :-)

  18. "Rusty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way for


    years.

    Quoted message said:

    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the


    butter

    Quoted message said:

    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!

    I don't have an answer. I checked out:

    Butter Is Best
    http://www.butterisbest.com/

    The American Butter Institute
    http://www.butterinstitute.org/

    If even checked (God forgive me) Margarine.org
    http://www.margarine.org/

    Even the Toaster Museum had no answer.

    The Toaster Museum
    http://www.toaster.org/

    Here is an article about how various breads held up to toasting, but
    nothing about buttering them.

    http://www.jsonline.com/entree/cooking/may03/142616.asp

    I would butter the underside of the whole wheat toast and see how that
    works.

    ;-)

    Rusty

    Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread (not
    counting the ends)? What about potato bread???

  19. Doug Kanter said:

    "Rusty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Doug Kanter said:

    I usually like butter on rye toast. I've been eating it this way


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    years.

    Quoted message said:

    Can I also use butter on whole wheat toast? I see nothing on the


    butter

    Quoted message said:

    wrapper or bread package which sheds any light on the issue. Help!

    I don't have an answer. I checked out:

    Butter Is Best
    http://www.butterisbest.com/

    The American Butter Institute
    http://www.butterinstitute.org/

    If even checked (God forgive me) Margarine.org
    http://www.margarine.org/

    Even the Toaster Museum had no answer.

    The Toaster Museum
    http://www.toaster.org/

    Here is an article about how various breads held up to toasting,


    but

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nothing about buttering them.

    http://www.jsonline.com/entree/cooking/may03/142616.asp

    I would butter the underside of the whole wheat toast and see how


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    works.

    ;-)

    Rusty

    Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread


    (not

    Quoted message said:

    counting the ends)? What about potato bread???

    You bet there is! The best way to determine which side is the top is
    to drop it from waist or countertop height on to the floor. The side
    that lands touching the floor is the top. ;-)

    Heidi

  20. Doug Kanter said:

    "Rusty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Time out! There's a top and a bottom for a slice of whole wheat bread


    (not

    Quoted message said:

    counting the ends)? What about potato bread???

    I FOUND IT! Here is the recipe for Buttered Toast. Everyone write it
    down because I'm not going to repeat it!

    http://www.freerecipe.org/Bread/buttered-toast-recipe.htm

    (I don't think the type of bread matters, but I could be wrong.)

    :>😉

    Rusty

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