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  1. HI! Foodie People!

    I've missed ya'll! Back from the trip, we stayed in "Mayberry" a little
    longer than we'd planned, and I just can't wait to go back. Oh, man - some
    of the best darn food I've ever had in my LIFE! To the lady who lives three
    miles outside of Mt. Airy - have you ever eaten at "Aunt Bea's"? WOW!
    Fabulous!

    I'll be posting a foodie report soon, at the present time, I feel like I've
    been run over by a Greyhound bus. In the meantime, I have a question :

    Garden planning time! I've got a ton of catalogues. For *years* I've been
    wanting to grow some hops. Got that catalogue today, and I need a little
    input. My little man *does* make beer, but buys the kit, and you don't need
    any *actual* hops to do that. The catalogues have two different kinds, and
    I'm going for the "aromatic" one. Now, here's the question : Can you do
    anything with them other than beer? I realise this is a peculiar question,
    but - can you make, say, soup with them? Roast them?Anything besides ale?
    Sounds like it would be fun, but I've no idea where to start.

    Thanks, ya'll : )

    - Tess!

  2. Tess said:


    HI! Foodie People!

    I've missed ya'll! Back from the trip, we stayed in "Mayberry" a little
    longer than we'd planned, and I just can't wait to go back. Oh, man - some
    of the best darn food I've ever had in my LIFE! To the lady who lives three
    miles outside of Mt. Airy - have you ever eaten at "Aunt Bea's"? WOW!
    Fabulous!

    I'll be posting a foodie report soon, at the present time, I feel like I've
    been run over by a Greyhound bus. In the meantime, I have a question :

    Garden planning time! I've got a ton of catalogues. For *years* I've been
    wanting to grow some hops. Got that catalogue today, and I need a little
    input. My little man *does* make beer, but buys the kit, and you don't need
    any *actual* hops to do that. The catalogues have two different kinds, and
    I'm going for the "aromatic" one. Now, here's the question : Can you do
    anything with them other than beer? I realise this is a peculiar question,
    but - can you make, say, soup with them? Roast them?Anything besides ale?
    Sounds like it would be fun, but I've no idea where to start.

    Thanks, ya'll : )

    - Tess!

    The young hop shoots can be used like pea sprouts in salads. The fresh
    hops themselves can be cooked gently like any soft vegetable.

  3. Arri London said:

    The fresh
    hops themselves can be cooked gently like any soft vegetable.

    Howdy,

    I don't deny it, but...

    Would they not be overpoweringly bitter?

    All the best,

    --
    Kenneth

    If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

  4. Tess said:

    Garden planning time! I've got a ton of catalogues. For *years* I've been
    wanting to grow some hops. Got that catalogue today, and I need a little
    input. My little man *does* make beer, but buys the kit, and you don't need
    any *actual* hops to do that. The catalogues have two different kinds, and
    I'm going for the "aromatic" one. Now, here's the question : Can you do
    anything with them other than beer?

    Um, yes. You can graft a cutting from a hops plant onto the roots of a
    Cannabis sativa and grow some magic hops. The leaves can be used as
    usual and the little boogers that people use to make beer can add a
    certain, er, high note to the flavors.

    Or so I've, uh, read.

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

  5. "Arri London" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    The young hop shoots can be used like pea sprouts in salads. The fresh
    hops themselves can be cooked gently like any soft vegetable.

    Oh! That's *wonderful*! I absolutely *love* sprouts!

    And then, given that they look a lot like brussel sprockets, I wondered if
    you could cook them that way. But yes, seems like they would be very bitter.
    If anybody should come across a proper recipe, please let me know : )

    - Tesssss

  6. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Um, yes. You can graft a cutting from a hops plant onto the roots of a
    Cannabis sativa and grow some magic hops. The leaves can be used as usual
    and the little boogers that people use to make beer can add a certain, er,
    high note to the flavors.

    Or so I've, uh, read.

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

    Oh, Bob! I love the way your mind works! Shouldn't put ideas like that in my
    head 😄

    - Tess : )

  7. Bob (this one) said:
    Quoted message said:


    Um, yes. You can graft a cutting from a hops plant onto the roots of
    a Cannabis sativa and grow some magic hops. The leaves can be used
    as usual and the little boogers that people use to make beer can add
    a certain, er, high note to the flavors.

    Or so I've, uh, read.

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

    This is a favorite urban legend among both the hops growers and the
    cannabis growers. Too bad it doesn't really work. Hops grafted onto a
    cannabis plant is still hops and will not contain any thc; cannabis
    grafted onto a hops plant maybe gains a little concealment, but that's
    all. Or so some knowledgeable farmers have told me....

    -aem

  8. Tess said:

    HI! Foodie People!

    I've missed ya'll! Back from the trip, we stayed in "Mayberry" a little
    longer than we'd planned, and I just can't wait to go back. Oh, man - some
    of the best darn food I've ever had in my LIFE! To the lady who lives three
    miles outside of Mt. Airy - have you ever eaten at "Aunt Bea's"? WOW!
    Fabulous!

    I'll be posting a foodie report soon, at the present time, I feel like I've
    been run over by a Greyhound bus. In the meantime, I have a question :

    Garden planning time! I've got a ton of catalogues. For *years* I've been
    wanting to grow some hops. Got that catalogue today, and I need a little
    input. My little man *does* make beer, but buys the kit, and you don't need
    any *actual* hops to do that. The catalogues have two different kinds, and
    I'm going for the "aromatic" one. Now, here's the question : Can you do
    anything with them other than beer? I realise this is a peculiar question,
    but - can you make, say, soup with them? Roast them?Anything besides ale?
    Sounds like it would be fun, but I've no idea where to start.

    Thanks, ya'll : )

    - Tess!

    Hops tea is supposed to be good for "nervous complaints" and muscle spasms. But
    boy does it smell awful. One can fill a little sack with dried hops blossoms
    and put it under your pillow to help you sleep. Maybe it makes your snoring
    sleep partner leave. Did I mention it smells worse than moldy gym socks?
    Edrena

  9. aem said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Um, yes. You can graft a cutting from a hops plant onto the roots of
    a Cannabis sativa and grow some magic hops. The leaves can be used
    as usual and the little boogers that people use to make beer can add
    a certain, er, high note to the flavors.

    Or so I've, uh, read.

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

    This is a favorite urban legend among both the hops growers and the
    cannabis growers. Too bad it doesn't really work. Hops grafted onto a
    cannabis plant is still hops and will not contain any thc; cannabis
    grafted onto a hops plant maybe gains a little concealment, but that's
    all. Or so some knowledgeable farmers have told me....

    I'm afraid those farmers didn't do it, then. Or maybe things have
    changed; DNA or something. 40 years ago it certainly did work. Or so
    we thought. But then we thought that you could smoke the scrapings
    from banana skins. Everybody sing... "They call me mellow yellow..."

    Here: dueling authorities, sorta.
    <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph26.htm>
    <http://www.entheogen.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=3675.html>

    Perennial marijuana...?
    <http://www.immunocapinvitrosight.com/templates/Allergens.asp?id=2253>

    In any event, I'm a long time away from it; decades. I saw some
    program on one of the "good for you" channels; Discovery or Learning
    or something a couple years ago and they were talking about the
    various strains and names and I felt like the antique I am. Whole
    buncha generations past my exposures.

    We did brownies from the Alice B.Toklas recipe and they certainly
    worked. But if the current stuff is so much stronger than what was
    available in the 60's and 70s, I can't imagine the effects. I think
    I'd be paralyzed.

    I read more info to see what the reality here is than I had all
    together before now. Fascinating subject. From my distant past...

    What's that in the kitchen. I have the munchies just thinking about it...

    Bob

  10. Bob (this one) wrote:
    [snip preceding]

    Quoted message said:


    I'm afraid those farmers didn't do it, then. Or maybe things have
    changed; DNA or something. 40 years ago it certainly did work. Or so
    we thought. [snip]

    Here: dueling authorities, sorta.
    <http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph26.htm>
    <http://www.entheogen.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=3675.html>

    Well, the first of these only says "the purpose" of grafting is to
    produce hops that contain THC. It never says it works, and it cites no
    research. The second quite directly states that this is a myth and
    that hops grafted onto cannabis rootstock will not contain any THC.
    And it cites published research. Seems clear to me, despite our
    wishful thinking.

    In enlightened places like Alaska you don't have to hide the plant you
    grow for personal use anyway....

    -aem

  11. Kenneth said:


    Arri London said:

    The fresh
    hops themselves can be cooked gently like any soft vegetable.

    Howdy,

    I don't deny it, but...

    Would they not be overpoweringly bitter?

    All the best,

    --
    Kenneth

    No they are still young.

    Quoted message said:


    If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

  12. aem said:

    In enlightened places like Alaska you don't have to hide the plant you
    grow for personal use anyway....

    "Pot got more votes than Hickel"

    --
    Siobhan Perricone
    "I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
    I ain't afraid of your Allah
    I ain't afraid of your Jesus
    I'm afraid of what ya do in the name of your god"
    - Holly Near

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