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  1. I have officially changed the name, and thanks to numerous request I
    have made it so comments can be posted without the creation of a id. I
    just didn't read the set up part. Keep those letters rolling in.

    RVD..

    http://rbrvandiesel.blogspot.com/

  2. Rik Van Diesel said:

    I have officially changed the name...

    Not to pull a Papai on you but why in your new blogspot do you state:

    "...Crit Pro...and to keep the up with the latest guess as to who he
    might be."

    Does seem a bit hypoCRITical.

    My personal opinion is that you're laying a trap for Crit Pro so you
    can log his IP if he were to post.

    GC

  3. Quoted message said:
    Rik Van Diesel said:

    I have officially changed the name...

    Not to pull a Papai on you but why in your new blogspot do you state:

    "...Crit Pro...and to keep the up with the latest guess as to who he
    might be."

    Does seem a bit hypoCRITical.

    My personal opinion is that you're laying a trap for Crit Pro so you
    can log his IP if he were to post.

    GC

    Log IP address? First you would have to know how to do that. Secondly I
    am over the crit pro thing. I like the last guess, but I realized it
    was better to not know. The only reason I cared was I thought is was
    one of my buddies, and if it is rob/ken then I dont really care.

    RVD

    PS You got to give me credit for outing pappy as a stalker.

  4. Dude/Miss,

    I am far from a stalker. 100% of the "stalking" you think I do is done
    in public, on RBR.

    I am not a dweeb who reads headers or tries an IP log trace. Most of
    those are meaningless, as has been proven time and again.

    I am just against anonymous idiots taking potshots. it's liek gang
    graffiti sprawled on cityscapes. All it does is ugly things up and the
    tagger can hide and whimper in their own juvenile sense of
    accomplishment.

    Posting constantly behind a handle means you really have nothing to say
    or add and make [censored] up up about whomever or whatever. Grow up and act
    like a man. Otherwise you can't take it.

    -Ken

  5. k.papai said:

    Dude/Miss,

    I am far from a stalker. 100% of the "stalking" you think I do is


    done

    Quoted message said:

    in public, on RBR.
    I am not a dweeb who reads headers or tries an IP log trace. Most of
    those are meaningless, as has been proven time and again.

    Quoted message said:

    -Ken

    [email hidden] Feb 17, 10:01 pm show options

    Not to pull a Papai on you but why in your new blogspot do you state:

    Ken if that is you name,

    Gorillacrit above used your name as a verb "Not to pull a Papai".

    RVD

  6. Whatever. Anything even *remotely* intellectual goes instantly over
    your head.
    People like you can never answer anything directly anwyay. You're WAY
    too cool.

    -Ken

  7. MagillaGorilla said:
    k.papai said:

    Dude/Miss,

    Quoted message said:


    Magilla

    It's like having Richard Ramirez tell everyone he leaves his window
    open, and asking why everyone else doesn't.

    RVD

  8. Quoted message said:

    k.papai wrote:
    I am just against anonymous idiots taking potshots. it's liek gang
    graffiti sprawled on cityscapes. All it does is ugly things up and


    the

    Quoted message said:

    tagger can hide and whimper in their own juvenile sense of
    accomplishment.

    Posting constantly behind a handle means you really have nothing to


    say

    Quoted message said:

    or add and make [censored] up up about whomever or whatever. Grow up and


    act

    Quoted message said:

    like a man. Otherwise you can't take it.

    Alright Ken I'm going to lay it out for you. I know you're a smart guy
    and a bike racing fan...and I agree with much of what you say. I get
    what you're saying about "anonymous idiots taking potshots" as a large
    amount of the posts here are pure speculation and innuendo with nothing
    behind them.

    With that said I'd like to take the time that Magilla did not and give
    you the reasoning behind why some posters must remain anonymous. There
    are several of us who are current / former USPROs. As such all of our
    friends, family etc are deeply involved in the sport. Racing through
    the junior ranks and graduating to the big leagues means you'll have
    teammates, former teammates, coaches, soigneurs, mechanics, etc on
    almost every single major team - even the Euro teams. Add to that
    industry sponsors, journalists, photogs etc. You get the point. Our
    whole lives are surrounded by the scene.

    Most USPROs will never read or post here because they just don't care
    and get enough of it in the daily routine. Other will simply lurk out
    of curiosity / boredom. A few are active posters. Some with real
    names and some with fake ones. Most of the stuff lately from the fake
    name pros is doping related because that's the ugly underbelly that has
    to be dealt with at every race. It's frustrating for the clean riders
    because there is still a core group that is getting away with it. The
    racers who have been around for awhile know the who's and why's.
    Despite the hype, it really is easy to dope here and get away with it.

    Problem is that it's all accusations and denials - so the clean guys
    lose both ways: in many of the races (esp. the stage races) and in the
    accusations. As has been said here many times, proof is hard to come
    by. So most don't say anything. No one has video of dopers filling up
    a vial of Eprex and injecting it into their stomachs.

    So anonymity is the only way to get some of this out there. Loss of
    anonymity means loss of leverage though. Being outed as a clean rider
    making accusations means exposing ones self to the dopers who are
    hiding behind their little secret - the dopers win again. It's really
    all stacked in their favor. I'm not complaining, it's simply the way
    it is at present.

    Also (not that you did this but just as another observation) using
    statements from retiring pros who say they "didn't see a problem with
    doping" in the US as an argument doesn't hold much water. They have
    nothing to gain by admitting there is a problem and everything to lose.

    So all I ask is that you give some of the anonymous posters here some
    benefit of the doubt. I think if you are a bit less dismissive of the
    anonymity you'll begin to see who is for real and who isn't. Take this
    for what it's worth but there are some serious insider truths here on
    rbr.

    -MC

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    k.papai wrote:
    I am just against anonymous idiots taking potshots. it's liek gang
    graffiti sprawled on cityscapes. All it does is ugly things up and


    the

    Quoted message said:

    tagger can hide and whimper in their own juvenile sense of
    accomplishment.

    Posting constantly behind a handle means you really have nothing to


    say

    Quoted message said:

    or add and make [censored] up up about whomever or whatever. Grow up and


    act

    Quoted message said:

    like a man. Otherwise you can't take it.

    Alright Ken I'm going to lay it out for you. I know you're a smart


    guy

    Quoted message said:

    and a bike racing fan...and I agree with much of what you say. I get
    what you're saying about "anonymous idiots taking potshots" as a


    large

    Quoted message said:

    amount of the posts here are pure speculation and innuendo with


    nothing

    Quoted message said:

    behind them.

    With that said I'd like to take the time that Magilla did not and


    give

    Quoted message said:

    you the reasoning behind why some posters must remain anonymous.


    There

    Quoted message said:

    are several of us who are current / former USPROs. As such all of


    our

    Quoted message said:

    friends, family etc are deeply involved in the sport. Racing through
    the junior ranks and graduating to the big leagues means you'll have
    teammates, former teammates, coaches, soigneurs, mechanics, etc on
    almost every single major team - even the Euro teams. Add to that
    industry sponsors, journalists, photogs etc. You get the point. Our
    whole lives are surrounded by the scene.

    Most USPROs will never read or post here because they just don't care
    and get enough of it in the daily routine. Other will simply lurk


    out

    Quoted message said:

    of curiosity / boredom. A few are active posters. Some with real
    names and some with fake ones. Most of the stuff lately from the


    fake

    Quoted message said:

    name pros is doping related because that's the ugly underbelly that


    has

    Quoted message said:

    to be dealt with at every race. It's frustrating for the clean


    riders

    Quoted message said:

    because there is still a core group that is getting away with it.


    The

    Quoted message said:

    racers who have been around for awhile know the who's and why's.
    Despite the hype, it really is easy to dope here and get away with


    it.

    Quoted message said:


    Problem is that it's all accusations and denials - so the clean guys
    lose both ways: in many of the races (esp. the stage races) and in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    accusations. As has been said here many times, proof is hard to come
    by. So most don't say anything. No one has video of dopers filling


    up

    Quoted message said:

    a vial of Eprex and injecting it into their stomachs.

    So anonymity is the only way to get some of this out there. Loss of
    anonymity means loss of leverage though. Being outed as a clean


    rider

    Quoted message said:

    making accusations means exposing ones self to the dopers who are
    hiding behind their little secret - the dopers win again. It's


    really

    Quoted message said:

    all stacked in their favor. I'm not complaining, it's simply the way
    it is at present.

    Also (not that you did this but just as another observation) using
    statements from retiring pros who say they "didn't see a problem with
    doping" in the US as an argument doesn't hold much water. They have
    nothing to gain by admitting there is a problem and everything to


    lose.

    Quoted message said:


    So all I ask is that you give some of the anonymous posters here some
    benefit of the doubt. I think if you are a bit less dismissive of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    anonymity you'll begin to see who is for real and who isn't. Take


    this

    Quoted message said:

    for what it's worth but there are some serious insider truths here on
    rbr.

    -MC

    Amen. One of the only times I'll say, "I couldn't have said it better
    myself."

    USPRO Licensee aka: crit PRO

  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    k.papai wrote:
    I am just against anonymous idiots taking potshots. it's liek gang
    graffiti sprawled on cityscapes. All it does is ugly things up and

    the

    Quoted message said:

    tagger can hide and whimper in their own juvenile sense of
    accomplishment.

    Posting constantly behind a handle means you really have nothing to

    say

    Quoted message said:

    or add and make [censored] up up about whomever or whatever. Grow up and

    act

    Quoted message said:

    like a man. Otherwise you can't take it.

    Alright Ken I'm going to lay it out for you. I know you're a smart guy
    and a bike racing fan...and I agree with much of what you say. I get
    what you're saying about "anonymous idiots taking potshots" as a large
    amount of the posts here are pure speculation and innuendo with nothing
    behind them.

    With that said I'd like to take the time that Magilla did not and give
    you the reasoning behind why some posters must remain anonymous. There
    are several of us who are current / former USPROs. As such all of our
    friends, family etc are deeply involved in the sport. Racing through
    the junior ranks and graduating to the big leagues means you'll have
    teammates, former teammates, coaches, soigneurs, mechanics, etc on
    almost every single major team - even the Euro teams. Add to that
    industry sponsors, journalists, photogs etc. You get the point. Our
    whole lives are surrounded by the scene.

    Most USPROs will never read or post here because they just don't care
    and get enough of it in the daily routine. Other will simply lurk out
    of curiosity / boredom. A few are active posters. Some with real
    names and some with fake ones. Most of the stuff lately from the fake
    name pros is doping related because that's the ugly underbelly that has
    to be dealt with at every race. It's frustrating for the clean riders
    because there is still a core group that is getting away with it. The
    racers who have been around for awhile know the who's and why's.
    Despite the hype, it really is easy to dope here and get away with it.

    Problem is that it's all accusations and denials - so the clean guys
    lose both ways: in many of the races (esp. the stage races) and in the
    accusations. As has been said here many times, proof is hard to come
    by. So most don't say anything. No one has video of dopers filling up
    a vial of Eprex and injecting it into their stomachs.

    So anonymity is the only way to get some of this out there. Loss of
    anonymity means loss of leverage though. Being outed as a clean rider
    making accusations means exposing ones self to the dopers who are
    hiding behind their little secret - the dopers win again. It's really
    all stacked in their favor. I'm not complaining, it's simply the way
    it is at present.

    Also (not that you did this but just as another observation) using
    statements from retiring pros who say they "didn't see a problem with
    doping" in the US as an argument doesn't hold much water. They have
    nothing to gain by admitting there is a problem and everything to lose.

    So all I ask is that you give some of the anonymous posters here some
    benefit of the doubt. I think if you are a bit less dismissive of the
    anonymity you'll begin to see who is for real and who isn't. Take this
    for what it's worth but there are some serious insider truths here on
    rbr.

    -MC

    I hear what you're saying, but the anonymity is a sword that cuts both
    ways. It may decrease the risk of putting this stuff "out there" but
    also decreases its credibility.
    Considering the amount of verifyable [censored] out there, how is someone NOT
    on the inside supposed to judge all the allegations? And from what
    you're saying, the folks on the inside know all of this anyway.
    If you're saying it's just a frustrated primal scream, I can understand
    it. But who in any position to do anything about this cares what is
    written in rbr anyhow?

    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  11. "Mark & Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:dbIRd.22704$sR5.6026@trndny05...
    , I can understand

    Quoted message said:

    it. But who in any position to do anything about this cares what is
    written in rbr anyhow?

    Steve

    Ullrich does. He's still hurting from all of the fat jokes.

  12. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    k.papai wrote:
    I am just against anonymous idiots taking potshots. it's liek gang
    graffiti sprawled on cityscapes. All it does is ugly things up and

    the

    Quoted message said:

    tagger can hide and whimper in their own juvenile sense of
    accomplishment.

    Posting constantly behind a handle means you really have nothing to

    say

    Quoted message said:

    or add and make [censored] up up about whomever or whatever. Grow up and

    act

    Quoted message said:

    like a man. Otherwise you can't take it.

    Alright Ken I'm going to lay it out for you. I know you're a smart guy
    and a bike racing fan...and I agree with much of what you say. I get
    what you're saying about "anonymous idiots taking potshots" as a large
    amount of the posts here are pure speculation and innuendo with nothing
    behind them.

    With that said I'd like to take the time that Magilla did not and give
    you the reasoning behind why some posters must remain anonymous. There
    are several of us who are current / former USPROs. As such all of our
    friends, family etc are deeply involved in the sport. Racing through
    the junior ranks and graduating to the big leagues means you'll have
    teammates, former teammates, coaches, soigneurs, mechanics, etc on
    almost every single major team - even the Euro teams. Add to that
    industry sponsors, journalists, photogs etc. You get the point. Our
    whole lives are surrounded by the scene.

    Most USPROs will never read or post here because they just don't care
    and get enough of it in the daily routine. Other will simply lurk out
    of curiosity / boredom. A few are active posters. Some with real
    names and some with fake ones. Most of the stuff lately from the fake
    name pros is doping related because that's the ugly underbelly that has
    to be dealt with at every race. It's frustrating for the clean riders
    because there is still a core group that is getting away with it. The
    racers who have been around for awhile know the who's and why's.
    Despite the hype, it really is easy to dope here and get away with it.

    Problem is that it's all accusations and denials - so the clean guys
    lose both ways: in many of the races (esp. the stage races) and in the
    accusations. As has been said here many times, proof is hard to come
    by. So most don't say anything. No one has video of dopers filling up
    a vial of Eprex and injecting it into their stomachs.

    So anonymity is the only way to get some of this out there. Loss of
    anonymity means loss of leverage though. Being outed as a clean rider
    making accusations means exposing ones self to the dopers who are
    hiding behind their little secret - the dopers win again. It's really
    all stacked in their favor. I'm not complaining, it's simply the way
    it is at present.

    Also (not that you did this but just as another observation) using
    statements from retiring pros who say they "didn't see a problem with
    doping" in the US as an argument doesn't hold much water. They have
    nothing to gain by admitting there is a problem and everything to lose.

    So all I ask is that you give some of the anonymous posters here some
    benefit of the doubt. I think if you are a bit less dismissive of the
    anonymity you'll begin to see who is for real and who isn't. Take this
    for what it's worth but there are some serious insider truths here on
    rbr.

    -MC

    I hear what you're saying, but the anonymity is a sword that cuts
    both ways. It may decrease the risk of putting this stuff "out there"
    but also decreases its credibility.
    Considering the amount of verifyable [censored] out there, how is someone
    NOT on the inside supposed to judge all the allegations? And from what
    you're saying, the folks on the inside know all of this anyway.
    If you're saying it's just a frustrated primal scream, I can
    understand it. But who in any position to do anything about this cares
    what is written in rbr anyhow?

    Steve

    Good question. Because the people who know stuff say very specific
    things. And you need to use your Jedi powers to guide you into figuring
    out who is the real McDeal vs. the DARK SIDE pretenders.

    According to your logic, Deep Throat's anonymity means Woodward and
    Bernstein should return their Pulitzers.

    I have a question for you dental twin, and I'd like you to really level
    with me. Did you and bro ever pull a Dead Ringers on a hot chick patient?

    It's a legitimate question.

    Bananas to you,

    Magilla

  13. MagillaGorilla said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:
    Quoted message said:

    > k.papai wrote:
    > I am just against anonymous idiots taking potshots. it's liek gang
    > graffiti sprawled on cityscapes. All it does is ugly things up and

    the

    > tagger can hide and whimper in their own juvenile sense of
    > accomplishment.
    >
    > Posting constantly behind a handle means you really have nothing to

    say

    > or add and make [censored] up up about whomever or whatever. Grow up and

    act

    > like a man. Otherwise you can't take it.
    >

    Alright Ken I'm going to lay it out for you. I know you're a smart guy
    and a bike racing fan...and I agree with much of what you say. I get
    what you're saying about "anonymous idiots taking potshots" as a large
    amount of the posts here are pure speculation and innuendo with nothing
    behind them.

    With that said I'd like to take the time that Magilla did not and give
    you the reasoning behind why some posters must remain anonymous. There
    are several of us who are current / former USPROs. As such all of our
    friends, family etc are deeply involved in the sport. Racing through
    the junior ranks and graduating to the big leagues means you'll have
    teammates, former teammates, coaches, soigneurs, mechanics, etc on
    almost every single major team - even the Euro teams. Add to that
    industry sponsors, journalists, photogs etc. You get the point. Our
    whole lives are surrounded by the scene.

    Most USPROs will never read or post here because they just don't care
    and get enough of it in the daily routine. Other will simply lurk out
    of curiosity / boredom. A few are active posters. Some with real
    names and some with fake ones. Most of the stuff lately from the fake
    name pros is doping related because that's the ugly underbelly that has
    to be dealt with at every race. It's frustrating for the clean riders
    because there is still a core group that is getting away with it. The
    racers who have been around for awhile know the who's and why's.
    Despite the hype, it really is easy to dope here and get away with it.

    Problem is that it's all accusations and denials - so the clean guys
    lose both ways: in many of the races (esp. the stage races) and in the
    accusations. As has been said here many times, proof is hard to come
    by. So most don't say anything. No one has video of dopers filling up
    a vial of Eprex and injecting it into their stomachs.

    So anonymity is the only way to get some of this out there. Loss of
    anonymity means loss of leverage though. Being outed as a clean rider
    making accusations means exposing ones self to the dopers who are
    hiding behind their little secret - the dopers win again. It's really
    all stacked in their favor. I'm not complaining, it's simply the way
    it is at present.

    Also (not that you did this but just as another observation) using
    statements from retiring pros who say they "didn't see a problem with
    doping" in the US as an argument doesn't hold much water. They have
    nothing to gain by admitting there is a problem and everything to lose.

    So all I ask is that you give some of the anonymous posters here some
    benefit of the doubt. I think if you are a bit less dismissive of the
    anonymity you'll begin to see who is for real and who isn't. Take this
    for what it's worth but there are some serious insider truths here on
    rbr.

    -MC

    I hear what you're saying, but the anonymity is a sword that cuts
    both ways. It may decrease the risk of putting this stuff "out there"
    but also decreases its credibility.
    Considering the amount of verifyable [censored] out there, how is
    someone NOT on the inside supposed to judge all the allegations? And
    from what you're saying, the folks on the inside know all of this anyway.
    If you're saying it's just a frustrated primal scream, I can
    understand it. But who in any position to do anything about this
    cares what is written in rbr anyhow?

    Steve

    Good question. Because the people who know stuff say very specific
    things. And you need to use your Jedi powers to guide you into figuring
    out who is the real McDeal vs. the DARK SIDE pretenders.

    According to your logic, Deep Throat's anonymity means Woodward and
    Bernstein should return their Pulitzers.

    I have a question for you dental twin, and I'd like you to really level
    with me. Did you and bro ever pull a Dead Ringers on a hot chick patient?

    It's a legitimate question.

    Bananas to you,

    Magilla

    Semi-serious answer--I never saw the movie, so I don't know, but I
    doubt it.
    However, we do re-enact the interrogation scene with Olivier and Dustin
    Hoffman from "Marathon Man" every now and then.

    It's very safe,
    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  14. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:
    MagillaGorilla said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    >> k.papai wrote:
    >> I am just against anonymous idiots taking potshots. it's liek gang
    >> graffiti sprawled on cityscapes. All it does is ugly things up and
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > the
    >
    >> tagger can hide and whimper in their own juvenile sense of
    >> accomplishment.
    >>
    >> Posting constantly behind a handle means you really have nothing to
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > say
    >
    >> or add and make [censored] up up about whomever or whatever. Grow up and
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > act
    >
    >> like a man. Otherwise you can't take it.
    >>
    >
    >
    > Alright Ken I'm going to lay it out for you. I know you're a smart guy
    > and a bike racing fan...and I agree with much of what you say. I get
    > what you're saying about "anonymous idiots taking potshots" as a large
    > amount of the posts here are pure speculation and innuendo with nothing
    > behind them.
    >
    > With that said I'd like to take the time that Magilla did not and give
    > you the reasoning behind why some posters must remain anonymous. There
    > are several of us who are current / former USPROs. As such all of our
    > friends, family etc are deeply involved in the sport. Racing through
    > the junior ranks and graduating to the big leagues means you'll have
    > teammates, former teammates, coaches, soigneurs, mechanics, etc on
    > almost every single major team - even the Euro teams. Add to that
    > industry sponsors, journalists, photogs etc. You get the point. Our
    > whole lives are surrounded by the scene.
    >
    > Most USPROs will never read or post here because they just don't care
    > and get enough of it in the daily routine. Other will simply lurk out
    > of curiosity / boredom. A few are active posters. Some with real
    > names and some with fake ones. Most of the stuff lately from the fake
    > name pros is doping related because that's the ugly underbelly that has
    > to be dealt with at every race. It's frustrating for the clean riders
    > because there is still a core group that is getting away with it. The
    > racers who have been around for awhile know the who's and why's.
    > Despite the hype, it really is easy to dope here and get away with it.
    >
    > Problem is that it's all accusations and denials - so the clean guys
    > lose both ways: in many of the races (esp. the stage races) and in the
    > accusations. As has been said here many times, proof is hard to come
    > by. So most don't say anything. No one has video of dopers filling up
    > a vial of Eprex and injecting it into their stomachs.
    >
    > So anonymity is the only way to get some of this out there. Loss of
    > anonymity means loss of leverage though. Being outed as a clean rider
    > making accusations means exposing ones self to the dopers who are
    > hiding behind their little secret - the dopers win again. It's really
    > all stacked in their favor. I'm not complaining, it's simply the way
    > it is at present.
    >
    > Also (not that you did this but just as another observation) using
    > statements from retiring pros who say they "didn't see a problem with
    > doping" in the US as an argument doesn't hold much water. They have
    > nothing to gain by admitting there is a problem and everything to lose.
    >
    > So all I ask is that you give some of the anonymous posters here some
    > benefit of the doubt. I think if you are a bit less dismissive of the
    > anonymity you'll begin to see who is for real and who isn't. Take this
    > for what it's worth but there are some serious insider truths here on
    > rbr.
    >
    > -MC
    >

    I hear what you're saying, but the anonymity is a sword that cuts
    both ways. It may decrease the risk of putting this stuff "out
    there" but also decreases its credibility.
    Considering the amount of verifyable [censored] out there, how is
    someone NOT on the inside supposed to judge all the allegations? And
    from what you're saying, the folks on the inside know all of this
    anyway.
    If you're saying it's just a frustrated primal scream, I can
    understand it. But who in any position to do anything about this
    cares what is written in rbr anyhow?

    Steve

    Good question. Because the people who know stuff say very specific
    things. And you need to use your Jedi powers to guide you into
    figuring out who is the real McDeal vs. the DARK SIDE pretenders.

    According to your logic, Deep Throat's anonymity means Woodward and
    Bernstein should return their Pulitzers.

    I have a question for you dental twin, and I'd like you to really
    level with me. Did you and bro ever pull a Dead Ringers on a hot
    chick patient?

    It's a legitimate question.

    Bananas to you,

    Magilla

    Semi-serious answer--I never saw the movie, so I don't know, but I
    doubt it.
    However, we do re-enact the interrogation scene with Olivier and
    Dustin Hoffman from "Marathon Man" every now and then.

    It's very safe,
    Steve

    I like you Steve. You're alright.

    Magilla

  15. In article <Y7KRd.26147$ya6.4733@trndny01>,

    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    However, we do re-enact the interrogation scene with Olivier and Dustin
    Hoffman from "Marathon Man" every now and then.

    It's very safe,
    Steve

    So which one of you gets to do the Sir Larry role, or do you trade off?

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Butter is love.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  16. Howard Kveck said:

    In article <Y7KRd.26147$ya6.4733@trndny01>,

    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    However, we do re-enact the interrogation scene with Olivier and Dustin
    Hoffman from "Marathon Man" every now and then.

    It's very safe,
    Steve

    So which one of you gets to do the Sir Larry role, or do you trade off?

    Oh, I don't do the Hoffman part.
    He does call me "the evil twin"

    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Donald Munro said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    , I can understand

    Quoted message said:

    it. But who in any position to do anything about this cares what is
    written in rbr anyhow?

    B Lafferty said:

    Ullrich does. He's still hurting from all of the fat jokes.

    Unless of course he's become a buddhist.

    Do they make lycra robes? I'd be worried that they might get caught in the
    chain.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    Butter is love.

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  18. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    , I can understand

    Quoted message said:

    it. But who in any position to do anything about this cares what is
    written in rbr anyhow?

    B Lafferty said:

    Ullrich does. He's still hurting from all of the fat jokes.

    Unless of course he's become a buddhist.

  19. "Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Donald Munro said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:

    , I can understand
    > it. But who in any position to do anything about this cares what is
    > written in rbr anyhow?

    B Lafferty said:

    Ullrich does. He's still hurting from all of the fat jokes.

    Unless of course he's become a buddhist.

    Do they make lycra robes? I'd be worried that they might get caught in the
    chain.

    This reminds me of something that occurred one year at the Pepsi 24 hour
    race in NYC's Central Park. A group of cyclists entered the event from some
    sort of meditative ashram and did quite well with virtually no real training
    in cycling. Perhaps someone out there remembers the particulars of who the
    were.

    BTW, the best Buddhist cycling robes are a blend of Lycra and silk.

  20. Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:
    MagillaGorilla said:

    I have a question for you dental twin, and I'd like you to really level
    with me. Did you and bro ever pull a Dead Ringers on a hot chick
    patient?

    Semi-serious answer--I never saw the movie, so I don't know, but I
    doubt it.

    Oddly enough,
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=10&u=/nm/20050215/od_nm/odd_doctors_dc

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