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  1. B Lafferty said:

    "Howard Kveck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Donald Munro said:

    Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:

    >, I can understand
    >
    >>it. But who in any position to do anything about this cares what is
    >>written in rbr anyhow?
    >
    B Lafferty wrote:

    >Ullrich does. He's still hurting from all of the fat jokes.

    Unless of course he's become a buddhist.

    Do they make lycra robes? I'd be worried that they might get caught in the
    chain.

    This reminds me of something that occurred one year at the Pepsi 24 hour
    race in NYC's Central Park. A group of cyclists entered the event from some
    sort of meditative ashram and did quite well with virtually no real training
    in cycling. Perhaps someone out there remembers the particulars of who the
    were.

    BTW, the best Buddhist cycling robes are a blend of Lycra and silk.

    That's pretty funny--one I hadn't heard. It sounds like something the
    Sri Chinmoy folks might have done.
    I remember the years when Billy Bauer and then David White used to win
    that. Then one year John Howard came in and set a record.
    I actually tried it one year. There was plenty of horsey dander in the
    air.

    Steve

    Quoted message said:


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  2. Robert Chung said:
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld said:
    MagillaGorilla said:

    I have a question for you dental twin, and I'd like you to really level
    with me. Did you and bro ever pull a Dead Ringers on a hot chick
    patient?

    Semi-serious answer--I never saw the movie, so I don't know, but I
    doubt it.

    Oddly enough,
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=10&u=/nm/20050215/od_nm/odd_doctors_dc

    Wow.

    Steve
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  3. "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This reminds me of something that occurred one year at the Pepsi 24 hour


    race in NYC's Central Park. A group of cyclists entered the event from
    some sort of meditative ashram and did quite well with virtually no real
    training in cycling. Perhaps someone out there remembers the particulars
    of who the were.

    BTW, the best Buddhist cycling robes are a blend of Lycra and silk.

    That's pretty funny--one I hadn't heard. It sounds like something the Sri
    Chinmoy folks might have done.

    That's them!

    Quoted message said:

    I remember the years when Billy Bauer and then David White used to win
    that. Then one year John Howard came in and set a record.

    Billy was slightly [censored] at me the year Howard won because I helped Lenny
    Preheim by working to help pace Howard to his record. Folks paced him in
    two or three hour shifts. He was an amazingly nice guy. At the end of my
    three hours he said a nice thank you and when I saw him after the event he
    said it again completely spontaneously. I also recall John minimizing
    nature stops by riding with a Texas catheter in place. He did stop during
    my shift to apply a liberal dose of A & D Ointment to the nether areas.

    Quoted message said:

    I actually tried it one year. There was plenty of horsey dander in the
    air.

    The last time I did it, on the lower loop, just starting north from the 59th
    Street side, a guy on a new DeRosa with Campy Super Record got crashed by a
    kid on a bmx bike and destroyed his frame. It was clear that the park was
    becoming too crowded to run that kind of event. IIRC, there were quite a
    few crashes that year--1982??

    Quoted message said:


    Steve

    Quoted message said:


    --
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  4. "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Here are some relevant sites for Sri Chinmoy http://www.scmtny.org/
    http://www.srichinmoy.org/

  5. How Meditation helps Sport
    Question: Does inner running help our outer running?

    Sri Chinmoy: Our inner running definitely helps us in our outer running.
    Through prayer and meditation, we can develop intense will power, and this
    will power can help us do extremely well in our outer running. Meditation is
    stillness, calmness, quietness, while the running consciousness is all
    dynamism. Again, the runner's outer speed has a special kind of poise or
    stillness at its very heart. We can bring this stillness to our outer life.
    Poise is an unseen power, and this unseen power is always ready to come to
    the aid of the outer runner.

    Question: Does an athlete who has spiritual purity have greater capacity
    than an athlete who does not care for the spiritual life?

    Sri Chinmoy: Suppose there are two athletes who, on the physical plane, have
    the same standard. If you are pure and the other is impure, what will
    happen? If you really have the same standard, then definitely you will be
    able to defeat the impure one. As soon as you touch the shot, you will be
    able to control your vital thoughts, mental thoughts and physical thoughts.
    But when the other one holds it, he will look around to see if others are
    looking at him. When he is thinking of the audience, some of his strength
    goes away. As soon as he identifies himself with the audience, what he gets
    is their worries, anxieties and tension. But when you are throwing, as soon
    as you hold the shot, there is only you and God. You are not allowing your
    vital to come forward. You don't open the physical door. You don't open the
    mental door. Purity is your bodyguard. It does not allow any wrong force to
    come. You have no idea who is good, who is bad, who is your enemy. Your
    purity-guard is very strict. It will not allow anything wrong to enter into
    your mind. So if one athlete has the same capacity as someone else, the one
    who is purer is bound to win, because he will not allow himself to be
    attacked by outside forces at the time of competition.

    Question: Does the spiritual life actually change the physical form?

    Sri Chinmoy: Yes, the spiritual life does change the physical form if while
    practising spirituality you care for the physical. There are many spiritual
    Masters who practise spirituality and also care for the physical. I am one
    of those. Even while I was in India I took regular physical exercise as well
    as meditating. Again, there are many Masters who don't care for the
    physical.

    The spiritual life does have the capacity to change the physical, but if we
    do not consciously use the spiritual life to help the body, then naturally
    the body will respond only to a limited extent. It depends on the seeker -
    whether he wants his spiritual life to enter into his body-consciousness or
    whether he wants to have two separate existences. I feel that the two should
    go together. But again, it is useless if the body becomes strong, but one is
    not aspiring. The body and soul have to go simultaneously on the spiritual
    journey.

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Here are some relevant sites for Sri Chinmoy http://www.scmtny.org/
    http://www.srichinmoy.org/

  6. B Lafferty said:

    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >This reminds me of something that occurred one year at the Pepsi 24 hour

    race in NYC's Central Park. A group of cyclists entered the event from
    some sort of meditative ashram and did quite well with virtually no real
    training in cycling. Perhaps someone out there remembers the particulars
    of who the were.

    BTW, the best Buddhist cycling robes are a blend of Lycra and silk.

    That's pretty funny--one I hadn't heard. It sounds like something the Sri
    Chinmoy folks might have done.

    That's them!

    Quoted message said:

    I remember the years when Billy Bauer and then David White used to win
    that. Then one year John Howard came in and set a record.

    Billy was slightly [censored] at me the year Howard won because I helped Lenny
    Preheim by working to help pace Howard to his record. Folks paced him in
    two or three hour shifts. He was an amazingly nice guy. At the end of my
    three hours he said a nice thank you and when I saw him after the event he
    said it again completely spontaneously. I also recall John minimizing
    nature stops by riding with a Texas catheter in place. He did stop during
    my shift to apply a liberal dose of A & D Ointment to the nether areas.

    Quoted message said:

    I actually tried it one year. There was plenty of horsey dander in the
    air.

    The last time I did it, on the lower loop, just starting north from the 59th
    Street side, a guy on a new DeRosa with Campy Super Record got crashed by a
    kid on a bmx bike and destroyed his frame. It was clear that the park was
    becoming too crowded to run that kind of event. IIRC, there were quite a
    few crashes that year--1982??

    I actually only did it one year--I think it was 1980. I did come down
    to watch a while a couple of times after that.
    I didn't try to ride through the night. We slept on pads and sleeping
    bags on the east side. Maybe 30 yards from us someone's bike was
    stollen. The cops actually caught the guy on 5th Ave. near the
    Guggenheim museum. Far from seeming glad to get his bike back, this guy
    seemed [censored] he had to leave to go down to the police station to ID the
    robber.

    Steve

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Steve

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Cut the nonsense to reply

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    Cut the nonsense to reply

  7. B Lafferty said:

    How Meditation helps Sport
    Question: Does inner running help our outer running?

    Sri Chinmoy: Our inner running definitely helps us in our outer running.
    Through prayer and meditation, we can develop intense will power, and this
    will power can help us do extremely well in our outer running. Meditation is
    stillness, calmness, quietness, while the running consciousness is all
    dynamism. Again, the runner's outer speed has a special kind of poise or
    stillness at its very heart. We can bring this stillness to our outer life.
    Poise is an unseen power, and this unseen power is always ready to come to
    the aid of the outer runner.

    Question: Does an athlete who has spiritual purity have greater capacity
    than an athlete who does not care for the spiritual life?

    Sri Chinmoy: Suppose there are two athletes who, on the physical plane, have
    the same standard. If you are pure and the other is impure, what will
    happen? If you really have the same standard, then definitely you will be
    able to defeat the impure one. As soon as you touch the shot, you will be
    able to control your vital thoughts, mental thoughts and physical thoughts.
    But when the other one holds it, he will look around to see if others are
    looking at him. When he is thinking of the audience, some of his strength
    goes away. As soon as he identifies himself with the audience, what he gets
    is their worries, anxieties and tension. But when you are throwing, as soon
    as you hold the shot, there is only you and God. You are not allowing your
    vital to come forward. You don't open the physical door. You don't open the
    mental door. Purity is your bodyguard. It does not allow any wrong force to
    come. You have no idea who is good, who is bad, who is your enemy. Your
    purity-guard is very strict. It will not allow anything wrong to enter into
    your mind. So if one athlete has the same capacity as someone else, the one
    who is purer is bound to win, because he will not allow himself to be
    attacked by outside forces at the time of competition.

    Question: Does the spiritual life actually change the physical form?

    Sri Chinmoy: Yes, the spiritual life does change the physical form if while
    practising spirituality you care for the physical. There are many spiritual
    Masters who practise spirituality and also care for the physical. I am one
    of those. Even while I was in India I took regular physical exercise as well
    as meditating. Again, there are many Masters who don't care for the
    physical.

    The spiritual life does have the capacity to change the physical, but if we
    do not consciously use the spiritual life to help the body, then naturally
    the body will respond only to a limited extent. It depends on the seeker -
    whether he wants his spiritual life to enter into his body-consciousness or
    whether he wants to have two separate existences. I feel that the two should
    go together. But again, it is useless if the body becomes strong, but one is
    not aspiring. The body and soul have to go simultaneously on the spiritual
    journey.

    As I recall, Chinmoy was the world record holder in the one-arm
    military press--an event in which to my knowledge he has literally no
    competition.

    Steve

    Quoted message said:

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Here are some relevant sites for Sri Chinmoy http://www.scmtny.org/
    http://www.srichinmoy.org/

    --
    Cut the nonsense to reply

  8. Meaning no disrespect for Sri Chinmoy, he's full of [censored] if he thinks that
    some dude looking forward to having the trophy girl if he can make the
    podium won't beat the guy who is meditating in the pack.

    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B Lafferty said:

    How Meditation helps Sport
    Question: Does inner running help our outer running?

    Sri Chinmoy: Our inner running definitely helps us in our outer running.
    Through prayer and meditation, we can develop intense will power, and
    this will power can help us do extremely well in our outer running.
    Meditation is stillness, calmness, quietness, while the running
    consciousness is all dynamism. Again, the runner's outer speed has a
    special kind of poise or stillness at its very heart. We can bring this
    stillness to our outer life. Poise is an unseen power, and this unseen
    power is always ready to come to the aid of the outer runner.

    Question: Does an athlete who has spiritual purity have greater capacity
    than an athlete who does not care for the spiritual life?

    Sri Chinmoy: Suppose there are two athletes who, on the physical plane,
    have the same standard. If you are pure and the other is impure, what
    will happen? If you really have the same standard, then definitely you
    will be able to defeat the impure one. As soon as you touch the shot, you
    will be able to control your vital thoughts, mental thoughts and physical
    thoughts. But when the other one holds it, he will look around to see if
    others are looking at him. When he is thinking of the audience, some of
    his strength goes away. As soon as he identifies himself with the
    audience, what he gets is their worries, anxieties and tension. But when
    you are throwing, as soon as you hold the shot, there is only you and
    God. You are not allowing your vital to come forward. You don't open the
    physical door. You don't open the mental door. Purity is your bodyguard.
    It does not allow any wrong force to come. You have no idea who is good,
    who is bad, who is your enemy. Your purity-guard is very strict. It will
    not allow anything wrong to enter into your mind. So if one athlete has
    the same capacity as someone else, the one who is purer is bound to win,
    because he will not allow himself to be attacked by outside forces at the
    time of competition.

    Question: Does the spiritual life actually change the physical form?

    Sri Chinmoy: Yes, the spiritual life does change the physical form if
    while practising spirituality you care for the physical. There are many
    spiritual Masters who practise spirituality and also care for the
    physical. I am one of those. Even while I was in India I took regular
    physical exercise as well as meditating. Again, there are many Masters
    who don't care for the physical.

    The spiritual life does have the capacity to change the physical, but if
    we do not consciously use the spiritual life to help the body, then
    naturally the body will respond only to a limited extent. It depends on
    the seeker - whether he wants his spiritual life to enter into his
    body-consciousness or whether he wants to have two separate existences. I
    feel that the two should go together. But again, it is useless if the
    body becomes strong, but one is not aspiring. The body and soul have to
    go simultaneously on the spiritual journey.

    As I recall, Chinmoy was the world record holder in the one-arm military
    press--an event in which to my knowledge he has literally no competition.

    Steve

    Quoted message said:

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Here are some relevant sites for Sri Chinmoy http://www.scmtny.org/
    http://www.srichinmoy.org/

    --
    Cut the nonsense to reply

  9. B Lafferty said:

    Question: Does an athlete who has spiritual purity have greater capacity
    than an athlete who does not care for the spiritual life?

    Sri Chinmoy: Suppose there are two athletes who, on the physical plane, have
    the same standard. If you are pure and the other is impure, what will
    happen? If you really have the same standard, then definitely you will be
    able to defeat the impure one.

    Presumably this means [censored] is going to add spiritual purity to his
    list of banned substances. Panache and spiritual purity are a particularly
    dangerous combination.

  10. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Meaning no disrespect for Sri Chinmoy, he's full of [censored] if he thinks that
    some dude looking forward to having the trophy girl if he can make the
    podium won't beat the guy who is meditating in the pack.

    And if the guy meditating in the pack also wants the podium girl? That
    should make him the equal of someone using EPO/blood
    boosting+HgH+steroids+insulin+etc. ;-)

  11. "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Panache and spiritual purity are a particularly
    dangerous combination.

    Indeed they are. Gandhi, St. Francis, Mother Teresa , Dr. Schweitzer come
    to mind.

  12. Tom Kunich said:
    Quoted message said:

    Meaning no disrespect for Sri Chinmoy, he's full of [censored] if he thinks that
    some dude looking forward to having the trophy girl if he can make the
    podium won't beat the guy who is meditating in the pack.

    B Lafferty said:

    And if the guy meditating in the pack also wants the podium girl? That
    should make him the equal of someone using EPO/blood
    boosting+HgH+steroids+insulin+etc. ;-)

    I would have thought being spiritually pure and wanting the podium girl
    were mutually incompatible.

  13. "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Panache and spiritual purity are a particularly
    dangerous combination.

    Indeed they are. Gandhi, St. Francis, Mother Teresa , Dr. Schweitzer come
    to mind.

    as do John Knox, Usama Bin Laden, Billy Sunday, Jimmy Swaggert...

  14. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:cpHSd.8307$9a3.2210@edtnps91...

    Quoted message said:

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Panache and spiritual purity are a particularly
    dangerous combination.

    Indeed they are. Gandhi, St. Francis, Mother Teresa , Dr. Schweitzer
    come to mind.

    as do John Knox, Usama Bin Laden, Billy Sunday, Jimmy Swaggert...

    Scratch Jimmy Swaggert. I was obsessing on the panache.

  15. "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tom Kunich said:
    Quoted message said:

    Meaning no disrespect for Sri Chinmoy, he's full of [censored] if he thinks
    that
    some dude looking forward to having the trophy girl if he can make the
    podium won't beat the guy who is meditating in the pack.

    B Lafferty said:

    And if the guy meditating in the pack also wants the podium girl? That
    should make him the equal of someone using EPO/blood
    boosting+HgH+steroids+insulin+etc. ;-)

    I would have thought being spiritually pure and wanting the podium girl
    were mutually incompatible.

    Why would you think that?

  16. You're all sissy idiots.

  17. Since you wrote that so well I do agree with about everything you have
    to say.

    I still hold that too many view the anonymous handle license as a way
    they can say [censored] about whomever and whatever.

    If whatever you have to say is the truth then sign it. There can be no
    incrimination.

    If whatever you have to say might be the truth but it's pretty bad
    stuff, then keep it to yourself since it might haunt you later. For
    sure anonymous handles saying bad things about people, truthful or not,
    is always dismissed or never to be taken seriously (same thing). there
    are better avenues than posting "tell alls" in RBR.

    -Ken

  18. Tom Kunich said:

    Meaning no disrespect for Sri Chinmoy, he's full of [censored] if he thinks


    that

    Quoted message said:

    some dude looking forward to having the trophy girl if he can make


    the

    Quoted message said:

    podium won't beat the guy who is meditating in the pack.

    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B Lafferty said:

    How Meditation helps Sport
    Question: Does inner running help our outer running?

    Sri Chinmoy: Our inner running definitely helps us in our outer


    running.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Through prayer and meditation, we can develop intense will power,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    this will power can help us do extremely well in our outer


    running.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Meditation is stillness, calmness, quietness, while the running
    consciousness is all dynamism. Again, the runner's outer speed has


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    special kind of poise or stillness at its very heart. We can bring


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stillness to our outer life. Poise is an unseen power, and this


    unseen

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    power is always ready to come to the aid of the outer runner.

    Question: Does an athlete who has spiritual purity have greater


    capacity

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    than an athlete who does not care for the spiritual life?

    Sri Chinmoy: Suppose there are two athletes who, on the physical


    plane,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have the same standard. If you are pure and the other is impure,


    what

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will happen? If you really have the same standard, then definitely


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be able to defeat the impure one. As soon as you touch the


    shot, you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be able to control your vital thoughts, mental thoughts and


    physical

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    thoughts. But when the other one holds it, he will look around to


    see if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others are looking at him. When he is thinking of the audience,


    some of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his strength goes away. As soon as he identifies himself with the
    audience, what he gets is their worries, anxieties and tension.


    But when

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you are throwing, as soon as you hold the shot, there is only you


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    God. You are not allowing your vital to come forward. You don't


    open the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    physical door. You don't open the mental door. Purity is your


    bodyguard.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It does not allow any wrong force to come. You have no idea who is


    good,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who is bad, who is your enemy. Your purity-guard is very strict.


    It will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not allow anything wrong to enter into your mind. So if one


    athlete has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the same capacity as someone else, the one who is purer is bound


    to win,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    because he will not allow himself to be attacked by outside forces


    at the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time of competition.

    Question: Does the spiritual life actually change the physical


    form?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sri Chinmoy: Yes, the spiritual life does change the physical form


    if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    while practising spirituality you care for the physical. There are


    many

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    spiritual Masters who practise spirituality and also care for the
    physical. I am one of those. Even while I was in India I took


    regular

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    physical exercise as well as meditating. Again, there are many


    Masters

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who don't care for the physical.

    The spiritual life does have the capacity to change the physical,


    but if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we do not consciously use the spiritual life to help the body,


    then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    naturally the body will respond only to a limited extent. It


    depends on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the seeker - whether he wants his spiritual life to enter into his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body-consciousness or whether he wants to have two separate


    existences. I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    feel that the two should go together. But again, it is useless if


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body becomes strong, but one is not aspiring. The body and soul


    have to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go simultaneously on the spiritual journey.

    As I recall, Chinmoy was the world record holder in the one-arm


    military

    Quoted message said:
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    press--an event in which to my knowledge he has literally no


    competition.

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    Quoted message said:


    Steve

    Quoted message said:

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >Here are some relevant sites for Sri Chinmoy


    http://www.scmtny.org/

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >http://www.srichinmoy.org/
    >
    >

    --
    Cut the nonsense to reply

    What a zoo

  19. Tom Kunich said:

    Meaning no disrespect for Sri Chinmoy, he's full of [censored] if he thinks


    that

    Quoted message said:

    some dude looking forward to having the trophy girl if he can make


    the

    Quoted message said:

    podium won't beat the guy who is meditating in the pack.

    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B Lafferty said:

    How Meditation helps Sport
    Question: Does inner running help our outer running?

    Sri Chinmoy: Our inner running definitely helps us in our outer


    running.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Through prayer and meditation, we can develop intense will power,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    this will power can help us do extremely well in our outer


    running.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Meditation is stillness, calmness, quietness, while the running
    consciousness is all dynamism. Again, the runner's outer speed has


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    special kind of poise or stillness at its very heart. We can bring


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stillness to our outer life. Poise is an unseen power, and this


    unseen

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    power is always ready to come to the aid of the outer runner.

    Question: Does an athlete who has spiritual purity have greater


    capacity

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    than an athlete who does not care for the spiritual life?

    Sri Chinmoy: Suppose there are two athletes who, on the physical


    plane,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have the same standard. If you are pure and the other is impure,


    what

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will happen? If you really have the same standard, then definitely


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be able to defeat the impure one. As soon as you touch the


    shot, you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be able to control your vital thoughts, mental thoughts and


    physical

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    thoughts. But when the other one holds it, he will look around to


    see if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others are looking at him. When he is thinking of the audience,


    some of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his strength goes away. As soon as he identifies himself with the
    audience, what he gets is their worries, anxieties and tension.


    But when

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you are throwing, as soon as you hold the shot, there is only you


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    God. You are not allowing your vital to come forward. You don't


    open the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    physical door. You don't open the mental door. Purity is your


    bodyguard.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It does not allow any wrong force to come. You have no idea who is


    good,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who is bad, who is your enemy. Your purity-guard is very strict.


    It will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not allow anything wrong to enter into your mind. So if one


    athlete has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the same capacity as someone else, the one who is purer is bound


    to win,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    because he will not allow himself to be attacked by outside forces


    at the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time of competition.

    Question: Does the spiritual life actually change the physical


    form?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sri Chinmoy: Yes, the spiritual life does change the physical form


    if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    while practising spirituality you care for the physical. There are


    many

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    spiritual Masters who practise spirituality and also care for the
    physical. I am one of those. Even while I was in India I took


    regular

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    physical exercise as well as meditating. Again, there are many


    Masters

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who don't care for the physical.

    The spiritual life does have the capacity to change the physical,


    but if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we do not consciously use the spiritual life to help the body,


    then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    naturally the body will respond only to a limited extent. It


    depends on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the seeker - whether he wants his spiritual life to enter into his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body-consciousness or whether he wants to have two separate


    existences. I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    feel that the two should go together. But again, it is useless if


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body becomes strong, but one is not aspiring. The body and soul


    have to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go simultaneously on the spiritual journey.

    As I recall, Chinmoy was the world record holder in the one-arm


    military

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    press--an event in which to my knowledge he has literally no


    competition.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Steve

    Quoted message said:

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >Here are some relevant sites for Sri Chinmoy


    http://www.scmtny.org/

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >http://www.srichinmoy.org/
    >
    >

    --
    Cut the nonsense to reply

    What a zoo

  20. Tom Kunich said:

    Meaning no disrespect for Sri Chinmoy, he's full of [censored] if he thinks


    that

    Quoted message said:

    some dude looking forward to having the trophy girl if he can make


    the

    Quoted message said:

    podium won't beat the guy who is meditating in the pack.

    "Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B Lafferty said:

    How Meditation helps Sport
    Question: Does inner running help our outer running?

    Sri Chinmoy: Our inner running definitely helps us in our outer


    running.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Through prayer and meditation, we can develop intense will power,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    this will power can help us do extremely well in our outer


    running.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Meditation is stillness, calmness, quietness, while the running
    consciousness is all dynamism. Again, the runner's outer speed has


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    special kind of poise or stillness at its very heart. We can bring


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stillness to our outer life. Poise is an unseen power, and this


    unseen

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    power is always ready to come to the aid of the outer runner.

    Question: Does an athlete who has spiritual purity have greater


    capacity

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    than an athlete who does not care for the spiritual life?

    Sri Chinmoy: Suppose there are two athletes who, on the physical


    plane,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have the same standard. If you are pure and the other is impure,


    what

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will happen? If you really have the same standard, then definitely


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be able to defeat the impure one. As soon as you touch the


    shot, you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    will be able to control your vital thoughts, mental thoughts and


    physical

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    thoughts. But when the other one holds it, he will look around to


    see if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others are looking at him. When he is thinking of the audience,


    some of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    his strength goes away. As soon as he identifies himself with the
    audience, what he gets is their worries, anxieties and tension.


    But when

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you are throwing, as soon as you hold the shot, there is only you


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    God. You are not allowing your vital to come forward. You don't


    open the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    physical door. You don't open the mental door. Purity is your


    bodyguard.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It does not allow any wrong force to come. You have no idea who is


    good,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who is bad, who is your enemy. Your purity-guard is very strict.


    It will

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not allow anything wrong to enter into your mind. So if one


    athlete has

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the same capacity as someone else, the one who is purer is bound


    to win,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    because he will not allow himself to be attacked by outside forces


    at the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    time of competition.

    Question: Does the spiritual life actually change the physical


    form?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Sri Chinmoy: Yes, the spiritual life does change the physical form


    if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    while practising spirituality you care for the physical. There are


    many

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    spiritual Masters who practise spirituality and also care for the
    physical. I am one of those. Even while I was in India I took


    regular

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    physical exercise as well as meditating. Again, there are many


    Masters

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who don't care for the physical.

    The spiritual life does have the capacity to change the physical,


    but if

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we do not consciously use the spiritual life to help the body,


    then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    naturally the body will respond only to a limited extent. It


    depends on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the seeker - whether he wants his spiritual life to enter into his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body-consciousness or whether he wants to have two separate


    existences. I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    feel that the two should go together. But again, it is useless if


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body becomes strong, but one is not aspiring. The body and soul


    have to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go simultaneously on the spiritual journey.

    As I recall, Chinmoy was the world record holder in the one-arm


    military

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    press--an event in which to my knowledge he has literally no


    competition.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Steve

    Quoted message said:

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote in


    message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >Here are some relevant sites for Sri Chinmoy


    http://www.scmtny.org/

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >http://www.srichinmoy.org/
    >
    >

    --
    Cut the nonsense to reply

    What a zoo

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