Please include your LOCATION when describing stores, etc.

On Fri 04 Feb 2005 01:09:44p, nancree wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

There are some of us who depend on Google for reading newsgroups. When
someone posts that they can find an item at "Sammy's", or whatever, we
need to know what city/area that is in.
For example, :
" know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here, but
Bloomingfoods and Sahara Mart are at most likely possibilities for
hunting down some of the fancier chocolates. I know Sahara Mart has
bars of Lindt...."
I don't mean to pick on this particular poster, but the problem
occurs so often.
..."Boswick's has a sale on citrus this week" (where's that?)
..."Trader Joe's here now carries frozen elderberries ." (where
..."Our neighborhood Starbucks is dirty".(we'd like to know which
one).
And on a cozier note, when someone posts, for instance, "We're snowed
in", or, "the hurricane is expected to get here tonight", we'd like to
know where. It's friendlier to know where--we might have relatives in
that area, or we might just be concerned about you.
Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So if
you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.
Thanks for listening,
Nancree

But surely, for the most part, you are likely to know what is not near you,
and could skip it.

Wayne

nancree said:

There are some of us who depend on Google for reading newsgroups. When
someone posts that they can find an item at "Sammy's", or whatever, we
need to know what city/area that is in.

Not just the Google-users, either. I can _sometimes_ figure out where
someone is posting from; if the ISP is one I know is local to one area, for
example.

Of course, it's possible to _ask_. But my experience in other newsgroups
has been that the replies tend to be such unhelpful ones as "I'm in the
South," "I'm on the East Coast," "I'm in California."

Quoted message said:

For example, :
" know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here, but
Bloomingfoods and Sahara Mart are at most likely possibilities for
hunting down some of the fancier chocolates. I know Sahara Mart has
bars of Lindt...."
I don't mean to pick on this particular poster, but the problem
occurs so often.
..."Boswick's has a sale on citrus this week" (where's that?)
..."Trader Joe's here now carries frozen elderberries ." (where
..."Our neighborhood Starbucks is dirty".(we'd like to know which
one).
And on a cozier note, when someone posts, for instance, "We're snowed
in", or, "the hurricane is expected to get here tonight", we'd like to
know where. It's friendlier to know where--we might have relatives in
that area, or we might just be concerned about you.
Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So if
you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.
Thanks for listening,
Nancree

--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood
Decluttering http://Decluttering.blogspot.com
Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

nancree said:

There are some of us who depend on Google for reading newsgroups.

[snip]

Quoted message said:

Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So if
you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.
Thanks for listening,
Nancree

For us Google posters, if the reader clicks on <show options> a choice
of Reply to Group and Reply to Author comes up. The latter enables the
reader to send a private reply.

-aem

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Fri 04 Feb 2005 01:09:44p, nancree wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

There are some of us who depend on Google for reading newsgroups. When
someone posts that they can find an item at "Sammy's", or whatever, we
need to know what city/area that is in.
For example, :
" know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here, but
Bloomingfoods and Sahara Mart are at most likely possibilities for
hunting down some of the fancier chocolates. I know Sahara Mart has
bars of Lindt...."
I don't mean to pick on this particular poster, but the problem
occurs so often.
..."Boswick's has a sale on citrus this week" (where's that?)
..."Trader Joe's here now carries frozen elderberries ." (where
..."Our neighborhood Starbucks is dirty".(we'd like to know which
one).
And on a cozier note, when someone posts, for instance, "We're snowed
in", or, "the hurricane is expected to get here tonight", we'd like to
know where. It's friendlier to know where--we might have relatives in
that area, or we might just be concerned about you.
Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So if
you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.
Thanks for listening,
Nancree

But surely, for the most part, you are likely to know what is not near you,
and could skip it.

Forty percent of the store names she gives as examples are national chains.
And "our neighborhood ___" is unhelpful even if you _know_ it's in the same
city.

And then there's the second part of her post, which you don't address.

--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood
Decluttering http://Decluttering.blogspot.com
Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

nancree said:

Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So

if

Quoted message said:

you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.

Incorrect, merely demonstrating that you don't know how to use the
Google interface. I suppose that's why you don't bother with quoting
when you reply.

Brian

"Dog3" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Default User" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

nancree said:

Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So

if

Quoted message said:

you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.

Incorrect, merely demonstrating that you don't know how to use the
Google interface. I suppose that's why you don't bother with quoting
when you reply.

Brian

In all actuality, if that interested she should learn how to read headers
and IP addresses. You can pinpoint a person's location pretty closely
unless they have munged their headers. I have the capability to munge but
I
don't.

Michael

[censored], all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say "all you
need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what the hell you're
talking about. Comprender?

Scott

"Scotty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:jZWMd.272694$8l.131041@pd7tw1no...

Quoted message said:

[censored], all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say "all
you need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what the hell
you're talking about. Comprender?

I don't understand ... it's a chain store. Do you have one there? Look in
the
phone book. Online. Whatever. If you don't, you ain't going there. No
big
deal.

nancy

nancree said:

There are some of us who depend on Google for reading newsgroups. When
someone posts that they can find an item at "Sammy's", or whatever, we
need to know what city/area that is in.
For example, :
" know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here, but
Bloomingfoods and Sahara Mart are at most likely possibilities for
hunting down some of the fancier chocolates. I know Sahara Mart has
bars of Lindt...."

That was my quote, made to a user who has mentioned his location
several times before as being in the area of Bloomington, IN. I
knew this, hence my suggestions. And you neglect to mention that
later in the post, I specifically mention Indianapolis being in his area.
That should offer _some_ clue about the location, shouldn't it?

Quoted message said:

I don't mean to pick on this particular poster, but the problem
occurs so often.
..."Boswick's has a sale on citrus this week" (where's that?)
..."Trader Joe's here now carries frozen elderberries ." (where
..."Our neighborhood Starbucks is dirty".(we'd like to know which
one).
And on a cozier note, when someone posts, for instance, "We're snowed
in", or, "the hurricane is expected to get here tonight", we'd like to
know where. It's friendlier to know where--we might have relatives in
that area, or we might just be concerned about you.

[snip]

From my observations, it doesn't look like people here have a
problem making more direct inqueries if they're actually curious and
want more information. If they really want to know which TJ's carries
frozen elderberries or which Starbucks is dirty, seems like a very
easy solution would be to just... ask.

And as someone else has wisely pointed out, not everyone wishes
to be specific about their location, and that's their own business.
I'm not sure it's realistic to expect people to reiterate their
location everytime they make the slightest mention of whatever might
be going on in their lives...

Ariane

Michael,
If you had read my post, you would see that Google Groups (the only way
I have of reading posts now that AOL has quit serviing them) --you
would see that Google Groups *does* mung their headers. That's my
whole point, Michael. Pay attention before you criticize.
Nancree

nancree said:

Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So

if

Quoted message said:

you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.

Incorrect, merely demonstrating that you don't know how to use the
Google interface. I suppose that's why you don't bother with quoting
when you reply.

Brian--------
-----------------------
Again, your post is useless. If you have a helpful suggestion, please
make it. Otherwise, don't bother me. (Google Groups does *not* carry a
full e-mail address for the e-mail it posts. They are munged.
Nancree

Nancy Young said:

"Scotty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

[censored], all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say "all
you need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what the hell
you're talking about. Comprender?

I don't understand ... it's a chain store. Do you have one there? Look in
the
phone book. Online. Whatever. If you don't, you ain't going there. No
big
deal.

This works _only_ if the chain's store operate enough alike in every city.
There are such things as sales confined to one area. There are also cases
in which city high-ups interpret their orders from headquarters very
differently.

Also, it doesn't quite cover the case (cited in the original message) of
someone saying "The Starbucks in my neighborhood is dirty."

And it most certainly DOES NOT cover something related which has annoyed me
-- people blithely stating grocery prices of certain items without saying
where those items were being sold.

--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood
Decluttering http://Decluttering.blogspot.com
Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

"Ang and Bruce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

There are some of us who depend on Google for reading newsgroups. When
someone posts that they can find an item at "Sammy's", or whatever, we
need to know what city/area that is in.
For example, :
" know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here, but
Bloomingfoods and Sahara Mart are at most likely possibilities for
hunting down some of the fancier chocolates. I know Sahara Mart has
bars of Lindt...."
I don't mean to pick on this particular poster, but the problem
occurs so often.
..."Boswick's has a sale on citrus this week" (where's that?)
..."Trader Joe's here now carries frozen elderberries ." (where
..."Our neighborhood Starbucks is dirty".(we'd like to know which
one).
And on a cozier note, when someone posts, for instance, "We're snowed
in", or, "the hurricane is expected to get here tonight", we'd like to
know where. It's friendlier to know where--we might have relatives in
that area, or we might just be concerned about you.
Also, Google does not carry your e-mail address on your posts. So if
you need a private reply (some of you ask for that), you'll have to
include your address in the body of your post.

Yeah mate!!!!!!!!
And adding the bloody COUNTRY would help too!
<nodding lots>

I'd say it's safe to assume it's the U.S. unless stated otherwise 😉

-T

"skoonj" wrote ...

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"Ang and Bruce"wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Yeah mate!!!!!!!!
And adding the bloody COUNTRY would help too!
<nodding lots>

I'd say it's safe to assume it's the U.S. unless stated otherwise 😉

-T

Sheesh, -T, I know you added the wink but I still think you are being just a
bit more than offensive to the MANY non-USA participants here!

Pam

Michael said:

In all actuality, if that interested she should learn how to read headers
and IP addresses. You can pinpoint a person's location pretty closely
unless they have munged their headers. I have the capability to munge but
I don't.

I'm forthcoming about my location, but I don't think anybody could
"pinpoint" my location from my news headers. Looking at my own headers, I
don't even think they reveal my ISP. (newscene.com isn't an ISP, it's a
newsgroup service.)

Bob

nancree said:

Michael,
If you had read my post, you would see that Google Groups (the only way
I have of reading posts now that AOL has quit serviing them)

Take a look at http://news.individual.net -- people whose opinions are
generally good in this area have recommended them.

Think about saying goodbye to AOL and hello to an ISP which does have
Usenet.

--you

Quoted message said:

would see that Google Groups *does* mung their headers. That's my
whole point, Michael. Pay attention before you criticize.
Nancree

--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood
Decluttering http://Decluttering.blogspot.com
Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

"Dan Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Nancy Young said:

"Scotty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

[censored], all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say "all
you need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what the hell
you're talking about. Comprender?

I don't understand ... it's a chain store. Do you have one there? Look
in
the
phone book. Online. Whatever. If you don't, you ain't going there. No
big
deal.

This works _only_ if the chain's store operate enough alike in every city.
There are such things as sales confined to one area.

Exactly my point, odds are you do not live near the particular store the
person is talking about, and you aren't going to fly across the country
to visit it. It's irrelevant.

nancy

"Dan Goodman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Nancy Young said:

"Scotty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

[censored], all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say "all
you need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what the hell
you're talking about. Comprender?

I don't understand ... it's a chain store. Do you have one there? Look
in
the
phone book. Online. Whatever. If you don't, you ain't going there. No
big
deal.

This works _only_ if the chain's store operate enough alike in every city.
There are such things as sales confined to one area.

Exactly my point, odds are you do not live near the particular store the
person is talking about, and you aren't going to fly across the country
to visit it. It's irrelevant.

nancy

On Fri 04 Feb 2005 09:46:09p, Dan Goodman wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Nancy Young said:

"Scotty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

[censored], all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say
"all you need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what
the hell you're talking about. Comprender?

I don't understand ... it's a chain store. Do you have one there?
Look in the phone book. Online. Whatever. If you don't, you ain't
going there. No big deal.

This works _only_ if the chain's store operate enough alike in every
city. There are such things as sales confined to one area. There are
also cases in which city high-ups interpret their orders from
headquarters very differently.

It's true that stores of the same chain in different parts of the country
or, for that matter, different parts of a city, are often merchandised
different. Still, if you're familiar with the stores you frequent, you
should have a pretty good idea whether they have the items in question. If
you don't, then you're probably a rather poor observer and shopper.

Quoted message said:

Also, it doesn't quite cover the case (cited in the original message) of
someone saying "The Starbucks in my neighborhood is dirty."

Your own observation should tell you whether the Starbucks in your own
neighborhood is dirty. Why the hell would you care about some place a
thousand miles away?

Quoted message said:

And it most certainly DOES NOT cover something related which has annoyed
me -- people blithely stating grocery prices of certain items without
saying where those items were being sold.

Prices for the same item vary across a range of supermarket chains even in
the same city, not to mention across the country. If you're that niggely
about the price you should call the store.

I don't see what the big deal is. The original request was petty and made
to sound as though we "owe" this person the information. Not the nature of
newsgroups, to be sure.

If I had to research and post the source and price for every damn thing I
posted about, I would probably never post at all.

Wayne

On Fri 04 Feb 2005 09:46:09p, Dan Goodman wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Nancy Young said:

"Scotty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

[censored], all she's saying is if you're going to post info about a
particular store, then let us know where the hell that store is. In
Vancouver, we don't have Bozwick's or Trader Joe's. So when you say
"all you need to do is go down to Trader Joe's", I'm wondering what
the hell you're talking about. Comprender?

I don't understand ... it's a chain store. Do you have one there?
Look in the phone book. Online. Whatever. If you don't, you ain't
going there. No big deal.

This works _only_ if the chain's store operate enough alike in every
city. There are such things as sales confined to one area. There are
also cases in which city high-ups interpret their orders from
headquarters very differently.

It's true that stores of the same chain in different parts of the country
or, for that matter, different parts of a city, are often merchandised
different. Still, if you're familiar with the stores you frequent, you
should have a pretty good idea whether they have the items in question. If
you don't, then you're probably a rather poor observer and shopper.

Quoted message said:

Also, it doesn't quite cover the case (cited in the original message) of
someone saying "The Starbucks in my neighborhood is dirty."

Your own observation should tell you whether the Starbucks in your own
neighborhood is dirty. Why the hell would you care about some place a
thousand miles away?

Quoted message said:

And it most certainly DOES NOT cover something related which has annoyed
me -- people blithely stating grocery prices of certain items without
saying where those items were being sold.

Prices for the same item vary across a range of supermarket chains even in
the same city, not to mention across the country. If you're that niggely
about the price you should call the store.

I don't see what the big deal is. The original request was petty and made
to sound as though we "owe" this person the information. Not the nature of
newsgroups, to be sure.

If I had to research and post the source and price for every damn thing I
posted about, I would probably never post at all.

Wayne