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  1. Last Autumn Rohan had a sale of their Uplander trousers at half price, so a
    bought a couple of pairs for casual use. When out in the hills, I like Ron
    Hill Tracksters because they're pretty windproof, light and even when soaked
    through, still feel warm and quickly dry. I'm tempted to use the Uplanders
    in the hills, but am concerned that when wet, they'll feel cold and wet and
    take a long time to dry. Does anyone on this forum use Uplanders, and what's
    their opinion of them in serious backpacking?

    Jim Ford

  2. Jim Ford said:

    Last Autumn Rohan had a sale of their Uplander trousers
    at half price, so a bought a couple of pairs for casual
    use. When out in the hills, I like Ron Hill Tracksters
    because they're pretty windproof, light and even when
    soaked through, still feel warm and quickly dry. I'm
    tempted to use the Uplanders in the hills, but am
    concerned that when wet, they'll feel cold and wet and
    take a long time to dry. Does anyone on this forum use
    Uplanders, and what's their opinion of them in serious
    backpacking?

    Jim Ford

    Not sure how the uplanders are made but I have had a pair of Moorlands ? for
    years. They are double layered and are great for winter walking, they don't
    get heavy even when wet. I also used them on the motorbike with minimal wind
    penetration at 60mph.

    --
    Muzz
    reply to uglyduck NOT spamfrog

  3. Jim Ford said:

    Last Autumn Rohan had a sale of their Uplander trousers at half price, so a
    bought a couple of pairs for casual use. When out in the hills, I like Ron
    Hill Tracksters because they're pretty windproof, light and even when soaked
    through, still feel warm and quickly dry. I'm tempted to use the Uplanders
    in the hills, but am concerned that when wet, they'll feel cold and wet and
    take a long time to dry. Does anyone on this forum use Uplanders, and what's
    their opinion of them in serious backpacking?

    If you bought them last year then probably the older version. They're a
    lot tougher and more windproof than Tracksters and a bit warmer too, at
    least when dry. They don't dry as fast as Tracksters, but OTOH very few
    things do, and the Uplanders aren't obviously any worse in that respect
    than any of the other "trekking trousers" flooding the market, certainly
    better than polycotton ones. Freedom of movement is from a combination
    of baggy fit and articulated knees and is very good for a non-stretch
    product (I did a yoga class in mine, and even though I'm not exactly a
    contortionist I was never restricted by them), but at the expense of
    needing a lot more cloth which will catch the wind and weighs more than
    something close and stretchy, so again the case that inferior to
    Tracksters there but no worse than most things people are wearing,
    probably a fair bit better for freedom of movement than A.N. Other
    Trekking Trouser.

    I bought a bargain pair like you, but they don't get used because I just
    came to the conclusion I prefer stretch legwear for a serious walk. If
    you want something warmer than Tracksters then look at the heavier
    models, fleece tights, or something in a fabric like Schoeller Dryskin.
    I think there's a fair chance you'd prefer this route if you're a
    Trackster fan like me. The fashion for baggier trousers as often seen
    in the hills is in at least some part caused by people being self
    conscious about skin tight stretchy legwear, but if you're not then I
    find it generally outperforms the baggy stuff if you've selected the
    right fabric and cut. The only reason I can see for wearing baggier
    stuff is if you want it waterproof.

    Rohan have now released a new Uplander though I don't think I'll bother
    because it's not stretchy. Rather annoyingly they've now released a
    stretch walking trouser but only in a ladies' cut, and a cut for a lady
    that is apparently a very different shape from Roos :-(

    Executive Summary: they're pretty good for a tough pair of walking
    trousers if you prefer baggy to close and stretchy. Aside from Paramo
    I've never seen a baggy cut pair of walking trousers that's much fun in
    the wet.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  4. John Laird wrote

    Quoted message said:

    However... the range of sizes of Ron Hills is pathetic. I'm a mere 6'1"
    and my XLs (or Ls, the labels have long since gone), are very short. No
    doubt if I'd gone for the basic models with the foot straps then they'd be
    hanging around my hips revealing way too much rear cleavage. As it is, I
    have to put a knot in the waist-belt tie to stop the useless friction grip
    giving up.

    The sizing of Ron Hills is variable and you should always try them on before
    buying. I'm 6'3" and my Ronnies fit me just fine. When I'm climbing, or
    when I've got walking boots on, I don't use the footstraps.

    The friction grip is useless though. I either take it off altogether and
    tie a knot, which is ok, or replace it with a toggle with a bit more grip,
    which also works. Given that Ronnies are so cheap, and toggles aren't
    expensive, you can hardly say you're significantly out of pocket. The last
    pair (well, pairs - two for £15!) I bought didn't have the friction grip at
    all, suggesting that the penny may have dropped somewhere.

    T.

  5. John Laird said:

    I can only imagine Ron himself is a midget.

    I think Ron is no longer directly involved. Ronhill (note it's now all
    one word) is now owned by OSC, who also own Mountain Equipment. And
    they've got a thing about small sizes too, with li'l ol' 5'8" me taking
    Large in their jackets and the M trousers certainly aren't anywhere near
    long!

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  6. Peter Clinch said:

    John Laird wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I can only imagine Ron himself is a midget.

    Quoted message said:

    I think Ron is no longer directly involved. Ronhill (note it's now all
    one word) is now owned by OSC, who also own Mountain Equipment. And
    they've got a thing about small sizes too, with li'l ol' 5'8" me taking
    Large in their jackets and the M trousers certainly aren't anywhere near
    long!

    And they seem to think that women don't go beyond size 14 tops...

    Roos

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, John Laird
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I can only imagine Ron himself is a midget.

    He is about 5' 6". However he sold the Ron Hill business a long time ago
    and now makes running kit under the Hilly brand.

    --

    Dominic Sexton
    http://www.dscs.demon.co.uk/

  8. Dominic Sexton said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, John Laird
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I can only imagine Ron himself is a midget.

    He is about 5' 6". However he sold the Ron Hill business a long time ago

    to another midget.

    It's not a unique problem - people have been getting taller for decades now
    and clothes manufacturers are still rooted in the 19th century. It's a fair
    bet that my size is always absent from any rack of trousers of mixed sizes,
    leaving only 28 and 40+ waists, or 30/32 waists with 26 inside legs.

    And who is it thinks legs and waists only come in 2" increments ffs ? Go
    into any decent mall in the States and you will find jeans for examples in
    all the intermediate sizes. Once I expanded beyond a 30 waist I had to keep
    eating to get to 32 because there was no bloody point being stuck in the
    middle ;-)

    Mens shoe designers are also clearly midgets - sketch and prototype at size
    7 and simply randomly scale up to 12 and beyond. I won't try anything on if
    there is no large example on display - it's too depressing to be handed some
    hideous boats that look nothing like the dainty ones that caught one's eye.

    --
    The mailman bringeth... The trashman taketh away!

    Mail john rather than nospam...

  9. Tony Buckley said:

    John Laird wrote

    Quoted message said:

    However... the range of sizes of Ron Hills is pathetic. I'm a mere 6'1"
    and my XLs (or Ls, the labels have long since gone), are very short. No
    doubt if I'd gone for the basic models with the foot straps then they'd be
    hanging around my hips revealing way too much rear cleavage. As it is, I
    have to put a knot in the waist-belt tie to stop the useless friction grip
    giving up.

    The sizing of Ron Hills is variable and you should always try them on before
    buying.

    I did, actually ! The largest size in the shop which was marginally longer
    in the leg fitted me the way a circus tent would, however...

    Quoted message said:

    The friction grip is useless though. I either take it off altogether and
    tie a knot, which is ok, or replace it with a toggle with a bit more grip,
    which also works. Given that Ronnies are so cheap, and toggles aren't
    expensive, you can hardly say you're significantly out of pocket. The last
    pair (well, pairs - two for £15!) I bought didn't have the friction grip at
    all, suggesting that the penny may have dropped somewhere.

    Treks are significantly more expensive. As well as being a bit less
    figure-hugging (nothing wrong with my figure, just think some things should
    be left to the imagination), they also have pockets, which I prefer.

    Actually, I'm making a small mountain out of a large mole-hill. With boots
    and socks on, the short legs aren't so much of a problem. However I do like
    to travel in trainers, with which a pair of half-mast glorified tights look
    a bit daft ;-)

    --
    I don't have a solution but I admire the problem.

    Mail john rather than nospam...

  10. I noticed that Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
    from John Laird contained the following:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He is about 5' 6". However he sold the Ron Hill business a long time ago

    to another midget.

    Thanks. I'm 5'6" and now I'm a midget

    Quoted message said:


    It's not a unique problem - people have been getting taller for decades now
    and clothes manufacturers are still rooted in the 19th century. It's a fair
    bet that my size is always absent from any rack of trousers of mixed sizes,
    leaving only 28 and 40+ waists, or 30/32 waists with 26 inside legs.

    Where??? I can /never/ find trousers short enough.

    --
    Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
    It's only Usenet, no one dies.
    My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
    Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

  11. Geoff Berrow said:

    Where??? I can /never/ find trousers short enough.

    Rohan are /not/ your friends here. I have to turn all of mine up except
    my SuperStrider breeks! (5'8" with 31" inside leg, 32" waist)

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  12. Geoff Berrow said:

    I noticed that Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
    from John Laird contained the following:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He is about 5' 6". However he sold the Ron Hill business a long time ago

    to another midget.

    Thanks. I'm 5'6" and now I'm a midget

    U R 2 me.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It's not a unique problem - people have been getting taller for decades now
    and clothes manufacturers are still rooted in the 19th century. It's a fair
    bet that my size is always absent from any rack of trousers of mixed sizes,
    leaving only 28 and 40+ waists, or 30/32 waists with 26 inside legs.

    Where??? I can /never/ find trousers short enough.

    M&bloodyS usually. I would have to point out that long trousers can be
    shortened far more easily than short ones can be lengthened. (M&S also
    commit the sin of choosing leg lengths on odd-number boundaries. I'm a 34
    ideally. When I was a 31 waist, that's probably when I started shopping
    elsewhere !)

    Talking of trousers, I'm sitting here sporting a new pair of flares. Well,
    the yoofs who made me buy them insist I use the term "boot-cut", but flares
    they are. Peace, man.

    --
    You dialed an imaginary number. Turn the phone 90 degrees and retry.

    Mail john rather than nospam...

  13. In message <[email hidden]>, Peter Clinch
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    John Laird said:

    I can only imagine Ron himself is a midget.

    I think Ron is no longer directly involved. Ronhill (note it's now all
    one word) is now owned by OSC, who also own Mountain Equipment. And
    they've got a thing about small sizes too, with li'l ol' 5'8" me taking
    Large in their jackets and the M trousers certainly aren't anywhere
    near long!

    Ron Hill hasn't been involved with Ronhill for many, many years.

    OSC were bought out by Burton McCall last year.

  14. On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 10:39:34 -0000, "Tony Buckley"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    The sizing of Ron Hills is variable and you should always try them on before
    buying. I'm 6'3" and my Ronnies fit me just fine. When I'm climbing, or
    when I've got walking boots on, I don't use the footstraps.

    The friction grip is useless though.

    Friction grip? What's that??

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  15. On 06 Jan 2005 11:12:04 GMT, Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    And they seem to think that women don't go beyond size 14 tops...

    True! I have a couple of their running vests, and it's hard to breath
    in them!

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  16. On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:16:48 +0000, Dominic Sexton
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    He is about 5' 6". However he sold the Ron Hill business a long time ago
    and now makes running kit under the Hilly brand.

    I didn't realise that was him! I think I have some Hilly socks 🙂

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  17. On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:20:27 +0000, John Laird
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Once I expanded beyond a 30 waist I had to keep
    eating to get to 32 because there was no bloody point being stuck in the
    middle ;-)

    That is quite definitely the best excuse I've *ever* heard! Just hang
    on a moment while I scribble it down... :-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  18. On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:27:25 +0000, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:20:27 +0000, John Laird
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Once I expanded beyond a 30 waist I had to keep
    eating to get to 32 because there was no bloody point being stuck in the
    middle ;-)

    That is quite definitely the best excuse I've *ever* heard! Just hang
    on a moment while I scribble it down... :-)

    I thankyew...

    --
    I may not be perfect, but I am all I got!

    Mail john rather than nospam...

  19. In article <[email hidden]>, Peewiglet
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:16:48 +0000, Dominic Sexton
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    He is about 5' 6". However he sold the Ron Hill business a long time ago
    and now makes running kit under the Hilly brand.

    I didn't realise that was him! I think I have some Hilly socks 🙂

    And fine socks they are too - well mine are, not so sure about yours ;-)

    --

    Dominic Sexton
    http://www.dscs.demon.co.uk/

  20. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks. I'm 5'6" and now I'm a midget

    Quoted message said:


    It's not a unique problem - people have been getting taller for decades now
    and clothes manufacturers are still rooted in the 19th century. It's a fair
    bet that my size is always absent from any rack of trousers of mixed sizes,
    leaving only 28 and 40+ waists, or 30/32 waists with 26 inside legs.

    Where??? I can /never/ find trousers short enough.

    At 5'7" and a (very important) bit, I always have the same problem. And
    on technical kit with zipped legs etc. I can't even sweet talk someone
    into turning them up for me.

    --
    Darren
    mail to darren not ng

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