Titanium or carbon

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Yes.

Seriously, that's an impossible question to answer. Best at what?? I'd personally never buy a carbon
frame, but I have ridden a bunch and they are nice bikes. Ti is great too. But they're both
expensive. For me, I'd rather ride a $99 alu frame from Nashbar. It offers the best all-around
compromise for me. You'll have to decide what qualities you like about your frame choices and pick
accordingly.

Cheers,

Scott..

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Material is not that important. How it is use is more important.
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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

That depends upon what material your helmet is constructed of.

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Try an aluminum with a carbon fork.

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Steel.

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Do you crash alot?

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

You should look at alternatives, and think about getting a custom frame. Check out:

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Yes.

Seriously, that's an impossible question to answer.

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Seriously, that's an impossible question to answer.

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Personally I think that Ti is a better value for the money. Ti has a longer life and can take
crashes better. Carbon is a little lighter, but I have not compared some of the newer Litespeeds.

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Personally I think that Ti is a better value for the money. Ti has a longer life and can take
crashes better.

The real world is littered with many titanium bikes that have failed, typically at or near a weld
(often on the downtube near the shifter bosses). Just as there are failed carbon, steel & aluminum
frames. There is nothing so special about titanium that makes it more immune to failure; indeed, as
frame builders are tempted to try and compete with the weight of a carbon frame, they have
engineered titanium bikes of limited lifespan & durability.

It's not the material, it's how it's used.

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

if you're fat, Carbon.

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Your question hit home with me as I am in same dilemma. I wanted a Ti for its durability and was
looking at a very pricey custom (>$6000 complete), until a friend with one had to send his back to
factory due a weld failure. Now I'm looking at a non custom Trek carbon at 1/2 the price. I crash
about twice a year and my rugged R1000 Cannondale has the scuffs and gouges to prove it, so I'm a
little concerned about how a carbon could handle it (my ribs and road rash heal themselves, so far).
I'll probably end up carbon cause I can buy two Treks for what the custom Seven would cost. Don't
say go steel or stick with Al. I've got both, like both, but just want a change

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

You should look at alternatives, and think about getting a custom frame. Check out:

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bob said:

Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Since both of those frame materials are offered because they are exotic (and not because of any
significant superiority compared to quality steel or aluminum), then the better one is the one that
turns you on more. That's the only noticeable advantage either material possesses over the cheaper
alternatives anyway.

Chalo Colina

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Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Your question hit home with me as I am in same dilemma. I wanted a Ti for its durability and was
looking at a very pricey custom (>$6000 complete), until a friend with one had to send his back to
factory due a weld failure. Now I'm looking at a non custom Trek carbon at 1/2 the price. I crash
about twice a year and my rugged R1000 Cannondale has the scuffs and gouges to prove it, so I'm a
little concerned about how a carbon could handle it (my ribs and road rash heal themselves, so
far). I'll probably end up carbon cause I can buy two Treks for what the custom Seven would cost.
Don't say go steel or stick with Al. I've got both, like both, but just want a change

Try a JADE... www.jadecycles.com. I think you'll find their pricing for Ti road bikes very
competitive with superior welds. I bought a Jade Solar last year in August and am TOTALLY happy with
it. I rode a Trek 5200 for over 8 years and prefer the Jade by a long shot. The bikes are fit to
your body measurements you provide them.

I think if you're big you'll prefer Ti over carbon since the carbon flexes so much. You won't waste
so much pedal energy in climbs and sprints. steve

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bob said:

Which is the better frame Ti or Carbon?

Since both of those frame materials are offered because they are exotic (and not because of any
significant superiority compared to quality steel or aluminum), then the better one is the one
that turns you on more. That's the only noticeable advantage either material possesses over the
cheaper alternatives anyway.

Chalo Colina

Exotic? Only compared to Aluminum. And there are plenty Aluminum that rival Ti and Carbon in price.

Geometry is the most important. You can find both in the same range, but speaking about Trek and
LeMond, latter has longer top tube.

The better cyclist you are the longer top tube you need. Carbon does not fare well in crash. Warrant
on Ti is generally better and I would prefer lifetime. Plain Ti does not chip or scratch. If you are
heavier than 150lb Ti might have better ride quality for you. Ti lasts longer. The popularity of
Trek is mostly due to incredible performance of Lance Armstrong.

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Tom you may want to check that URL you gave, it just sent me to some website about pictures.

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You should look at alternatives, and think about getting a custom frame. Check out:

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Tom you may want to check that URL you gave, it just sent me to some website about pictures.

Sorry, ignore that last post, it's still early in the morning.