is this ratio ok....

The protein and carbs are too high and the fat is too low. You might be
able to get by with the ratios you are currently using for now, but when
your progress stalls try adding fat and decreasing protein.

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calories 1755 fat 119
carb 33
protein 150

I am on Atkins and am losing slowly which is good. Are these ratios ok for
a few months or is the fat too high and the protein too low or maybe the
carbs high.....
Any help is appreciated.....

Warren
193 now

Because I have read some of your notes I really cant take anything you
say seriously, can I?? Although a lurker and I just try to read people
that have something to say and there seems to be a lot of controversy
around you, I cant get a read on your intentions. That means I need to
just let them pass...... I honestly cant say what the controversy about
you is because I don't waste the time trying to figure it out. I know I
speak for a lot of people in this case but when I read your notes I
think either you are a troll or someone with a great sense of humor no
one understands. Either way I'll listen if you want to explain...
maybe I am wrong...
And please don't make this into a flameout. I just want a simple
answer......
Warren

JC Der Koenig said:

The protein and carbs are too high and the fat is too low. You might be
able to get by with the ratios you are currently using for now, but when
your progress stalls try adding fat and decreasing protein.

In this one case, I agree with JC. You may wish to google for the various
online calculators for proper protein amounts. If you reduce protein to 75,
then fat could be increased to make up the difference.

I'm not as patient as you are. I would try eating lower total calories per
day. My personal goal is 1400 on average, but 1755 should give some slow
weightloss. They always say slower loss is healthier and more likely to be
maintained, but I don't recall any studies supporting it. My guess is that
continuing LC as a way of life is more important than the rate at which the
weight was lost.

Are you using Fitday to calculate your statistics? http://www.FitDay.com

Cubit
311/202/165

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Because I have read some of your notes I really cant take anything you
say seriously, can I?? Although a lurker and I just try to read people
that have something to say and there seems to be a lot of controversy
around you, I cant get a read on your intentions. That means I need to
just let them pass...... I honestly cant say what the controversy about
you is because I don't waste the time trying to figure it out. I know I
speak for a lot of people in this case but when I read your notes I
think either you are a troll or someone with a great sense of humor no
one understands. Either way I'll listen if you want to explain...
maybe I am wrong...
And please don't make this into a flameout. I just want a simple
answer......
Warren

JC Der Koenig said:

The protein and carbs are too high and the fat is too low. You might be
able to get by with the ratios you are currently using for now, but when
your progress stalls try adding fat and decreasing protein.

I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and have
proven this many times. The controversy is that many people here would
rather put their faith in magic rather than in proven methods.

Btw, several people understand my humor.

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Because I have read some of your notes I really cant take anything you say
seriously, can I?? Although a lurker and I just try to read people that
have something to say and there seems to be a lot of controversy around
you, I cant get a read on your intentions. That means I need to just let
them pass...... I honestly cant say what the controversy about you is
because I don't waste the time trying to figure it out. I know I speak for
a lot of people in this case but when I read your notes I think either you
are a troll or someone with a great sense of humor no one understands.
Either way I'll listen if you want to explain...
maybe I am wrong...
And please don't make this into a flameout. I just want a simple
answer......
Warren

JC Der Koenig said:

The protein and carbs are too high and the fat is too low. You might be
able to get by with the ratios you are currently using for now, but when
your progress stalls try adding fat and decreasing protein.

warren said:

Because I have read some of your notes I really cant take anything you
say seriously, can I??

you could if you were smart enough to recognize good advice.

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:52:05 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>

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I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and have
proven this many times.

Is that like Luna who gave up smoking many times? Just curious.

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Is this the reason you haven't been able to gain any lean mass yet?

You still don't believe in the efficacy of the bulking/cutting cycle?

Are you really that ignorant, or just purposely obtuse?

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:51:43 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:52:05 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>
wrote:
> I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and have
> proven this many times.

Is that like Luna who gave up smoking many times? Just curious.

Is this the reason you haven't been able to gain any lean mass yet?

I simply decided not to.

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You still don't believe in the efficacy of the bulking/cutting cycle?

I believe in its efficacy.

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Are you really that ignorant, or just purposely obtuse?

I am trying out my sense of humor...

Your English is fairly good for a Russian immigrant.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ignoramus31279 said:

JC Der Koenig said:

I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and have
proven this many times.

Is that like Luna who gave up smoking many times? Just curious.

Hey, why you hurtin' on me? I wasn't even in here, I was asleep.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

His English is better than mine. He even uses idioms.

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"Ignoramus31279" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:52:05 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>
> wrote:
>> I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and

have

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>> proven this many times.
>
> Is that like Luna who gave up smoking many times? Just curious.
>

Is this the reason you haven't been able to gain any lean mass yet?

I simply decided not to.

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You still don't believe in the efficacy of the bulking/cutting cycle?

I believe in its efficacy.

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Are you really that ignorant, or just purposely obtuse?

I am trying out my sense of humor...

Your English is fairly good for a Russian immigrant.

His English is better than most Americans.

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His English is better than mine. He even uses idioms.

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:51:43 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>
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> "Ignoramus31279" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:52:05 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and

have

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>>> proven this many times.
>>
>> Is that like Luna who gave up smoking many times? Just curious.
>>
>
>
> Is this the reason you haven't been able to gain any lean mass yet?

I simply decided not to.

> You still don't believe in the efficacy of the bulking/cutting cycle?

I believe in its efficacy.

> Are you really that ignorant, or just purposely obtuse?

I am trying out my sense of humor...

Your English is fairly good for a Russian immigrant.

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Hm, thanks. My sense of humor though, could never develop into
something understood by natives. Whenever I say a joke, someone gets
upset!

i

Yeah. Remember the joking about the 50lb sack of wheat? I couldn't
figure out why you were upset. I think facial expressions/body language are
part of communication that can not be translated in a forum. In real life,
it is easier to discern whether someone is joking or serious.

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:24:09 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>

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His English is better than most Americans.

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Hm, thanks. My sense of humor though, could never develop into
something understood by natives. Whenever I say a joke, someone gets
upset!

i

Yeah. Remember the joking about the 50lb sack of wheat? I couldn't
figure out why you were upset. I think facial expressions/body language

are

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part of communication that can not be translated in a forum. In real

life,

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it is easier to discern whether someone is joking or serious.

Yep. I personally feel that besides what you said, I am lacking the
"cultural context". The funny cartoons that natives watched as kids,
school stuff etc, was all different for me.

Yes, of course. Different backgrounds entirely.

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You are right about facial exressions etc, also.

i

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I don't have any sites that I can point to to back this up, but losing
weight slowly (2 pounds/week or less) is easier on your entire body,
specifically your organs. For example, you can develop fatty liver disease
from too rapid weight loss and your skin needs time to keep up or you end
up with that excess hanging skin thing I'm sure you've seen on some people.

Cubit said:

I'm not as patient as you are. I would try eating lower total calories per
day. My personal goal is 1400 on average, but 1755 should give some slow
weightloss. They always say slower loss is healthier and more likely to be
maintained, but I don't recall any studies supporting it. My guess is that
continuing LC as a way of life is more important than the rate at which the
weight was lost.

-----
Bev

"warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Because I have read some of your notes I really cant take anything you say
seriously, can I?? Although a lurker and I just try to read people that
have something to say and there seems to be a lot of controversy around
you, I cant get a read on your intentions. That means I need to just let
them pass...... I honestly cant say what the controversy about you is
because I don't waste the time trying to figure it out. I know I speak for
a lot of people in this case but when I read your notes I think either you
are a troll or someone with a great sense of humor no one understands.
Either way I'll listen if you want to explain...
maybe I am wrong...
And please don't make this into a flameout. I just want a simple
answer......
Warren

JC Der Koenig said:

The protein and carbs are too high and the fat is too low. You might be
able to get by with the ratios you are currently using for now, but when
your progress stalls try adding fat and decreasing protein.

JC's real name is Jerry Seinfeld (he mistyped the JS). Because he's out of
work now, he just posts here.

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Because I have read some of your notes I really cant take anything you say
seriously, can I?? Although a lurker and I just try to read people that
have something to say and there seems to be a lot of controversy around
you, I cant get a read on your intentions. That means I need to just let
them pass...... I honestly cant say what the controversy about you is
because I don't waste the time trying to figure it out. I know I speak for
a lot of people in this case but when I read your notes I think either you
are a troll or someone with a great sense of humor no one understands.
Either way I'll listen if you want to explain...
maybe I am wrong...
And please don't make this into a flameout. I just want a simple
answer......
Warren

JC Der Koenig said:

The protein and carbs are too high and the fat is too low. You might be
able to get by with the ratios you are currently using for now, but when
your progress stalls try adding fat and decreasing protein.

I agree with JC. But watch what fats you get, for health purposes. Let's
get away from such things as bacon and cheesecake, and go with omega 3 fats
from tuna and salmon (and other fish), for instance.

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His English is better than most Americans.

Ain't that the durn truth?

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Ignoramus31279 said:

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:52:05 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and have
proven this many times.

Is that like Luna who gave up smoking many times? Just curious.

Hey, why you hurtin' on me? I wasn't even in here, I was asleep.

He didn't mean it, Michele. I'm still smoking, and there are damn few of us
left. If you want one, here!

In article <UYqyd.574$4h.428@okepread03>,

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Ignoramus31279 said:

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:52:05 GMT, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]>
wrote:
> I'm am someone who knows how to reduce bodyfat using low carb, and have
> proven this many times.

Is that like Luna who gave up smoking many times? Just curious.

Hey, why you hurtin' on me? I wasn't even in here, I was asleep.

He didn't mean it, Michele. I'm still smoking, and there are damn few of us
left. If you want one, here!

No thanks! I'm at 3 days now, and it's getting easier. I think Ig was
picking on me because I've tried to quit and failed so many times before.
But, hey, if it were easy, everyone would do it. And if I were a wimp, I
wouldn't keep trying.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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calories 1755
fat 119
carb 33
protein 150

I am on Atkins and am losing slowly which is good. Are these ratios ok
for a few months or is the fat too high and the protein too low or maybe
the carbs high.....
Any help is appreciated.....

Warren
193 now

In my opinion you don't need to keep such a close eye on all those
figures. If you cut your carbs down to the level you're at, the numbers will
take care of themselves. If you eat more protein one day, and more fat the
next, it won't really make any difference as long as the carbs stay low.
--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
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Coney Island Memories
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