Air forks

mark said:

Zoke, or Fox air forks. Will they hold my 210 pound ass up, under
normal (I'm borderline Barney) XC riding conditions?

I'm ready to replace the heavy Psylo (dialed down to 80 mm) I have
now, before it give me problems. Pretty much anything 80 mm is going
to be air, 'cept a '04 Vanilla with the spacers adjusted. The '05
Zoke Marathon Race is a race fork (possibly flimsy?). I don't race.
That leaves me with the Fox F80RLT. Stiffer, and light(er) than the
Psylo. That's it! The F80RLT it is.

Thanks for the help.

Don't mention it.

(Ooops, too late.)

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Quoted message said:

Zoke, or Fox air forks. Will they hold my 210 pound ass up, under normal
(I'm borderline Barney) XC riding conditions?

I'm ready to replace the heavy Psylo (dialed down to 80 mm) I have now,
before it give me problems. Pretty much anything 80 mm is going to be air,
'cept a '04 Vanilla with the spacers adjusted. The '05 Zoke Marathon Race

is

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a race fork (possibly flimsy?). I don't race. That leaves me with the Fox
F80RLT. Stiffer, and light(er) than the Psylo. That's it! The F80RLT it

is.

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Thanks for the help.

Yo, wait up Mark,,,,,,,,,,,

There's no need to limit yourself to 80mm. My frame was designed for 80mm
and I now ride a 130mm on it. Works for me!

FWIW I don't like the air forks - too much fiddlin & diddlin - A good coil
/ oil is cheaper and less hassle.

Who dis-agrees ;-)
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The rest I've just wasted.

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Zoke, or Fox air forks. Will they hold my 210 pound ass up, under normal
(I'm borderline Barney) XC riding conditions?

I'm ready to replace the heavy Psylo (dialed down to 80 mm) I have now,
before it give me problems. Pretty much anything 80 mm is going to be

air,

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'cept a '04 Vanilla with the spacers adjusted. The '05 Zoke Marathon

Race

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is

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a race fork (possibly flimsy?). I don't race. That leaves me with the

Fox

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F80RLT. Stiffer, and light(er) than the Psylo. That's it! The F80RLT it

is.

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Thanks for the help.

Yo, wait up Mark,,,,,,,,,,,

There's no need to limit yourself to 80mm. My frame was designed for

80mm

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and I now ride a 130mm on it. Works for me!

No kidding? You did not find the angle too slack?

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FWIW I don't like the air forks - too much fiddlin & diddlin - A good

coil

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/ oil is cheaper and less hassle.

That's just it. I 'do' want simple, but want something lighter than a 4.25
pound fork. That U-Turn feature sucks too.

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mark said:

Zoke, or Fox air forks. Will they hold my 210 pound ass up, under
normal (I'm borderline Barney) XC riding conditions?

I'm ready to replace the heavy Psylo (dialed down to 80 mm) I have
now, before it give me problems. Pretty much anything 80 mm is going
to be air, 'cept a '04 Vanilla with the spacers adjusted. The '05
Zoke Marathon Race is a race fork (possibly flimsy?). I don't race.
That leaves me with the Fox F80RLT. Stiffer, and light(er) than the
Psylo. That's it! The F80RLT it is.

Thanks for the help.

Don't mention it.

(Ooops, too late.)

Never!

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No kidding? You did not find the angle too slack?

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FWIW I don't like the air forks - too much fiddlin & diddlin - A good

coil / oil is cheaper and less hassle.

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That's just it. I 'do' want simple, but want something lighter than a 4.25
pound fork. That U-Turn feature sucks too.

If you don't like the slack angle it will go down to 100mm - 4.0 lbs

http://www.answerproducts.com/items.asp?deptid=1&itemid=11

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DTW .../\.../\.../\...

I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing.
The rest I've just wasted.

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Zoke, or Fox air forks. Will they hold my 210 pound ass up, under normal
(I'm borderline Barney) XC riding conditions?

I'm ready to replace the heavy Psylo (dialed down to 80 mm) I have now,
before it give me problems. Pretty much anything 80 mm is going to be air,
'cept a '04 Vanilla with the spacers adjusted. The '05 Zoke Marathon Race

is

Quoted message said:

a race fork (possibly flimsy?). I don't race. That leaves me with the Fox
F80RLT. Stiffer, and light(er) than the Psylo. That's it! The F80RLT it

is.

Quoted message said:

Thanks for the help.

Yo, wait up Mark,,,,,,,,,,,

There's no need to limit yourself to 80mm. My frame was designed for 80mm
and I now ride a 130mm on it. Works for me!

FWIW I don't like the air forks - too much fiddlin & diddlin - A good coil
/ oil is cheaper and less hassle.

Who dis-agrees ;-)
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DTW .../\.../\.../\...

I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing.
The rest I've just wasted.

good point, I ride air and I have to adjust it before almost every ride
- especially when it's hot... but I still like the ride a little better.

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If you don't like the slack angle it will go down to 100mm - 4.0 lbs

Have you measured your head angle at 130mm & 100mm? If so, please post up.

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If you don't like the slack angle it will go down to 100mm - 4.0 lbs

Have you measured your head angle at 130mm & 100mm? If so, please post

up.

any hints on how to do that accurately would be appreciated

DTW .../\.../\.../\...

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The rest, I've just wasted.

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If you don't like the slack angle it will go down to 100mm - 4.0 lbs

Have you measured your head angle at 130mm & 100mm? If so, please post

up.

any hints on how to do that accurately would be appreciated

I use a cheap angle checker I got from 3rd Hand (online) .
I measure the angle, then turn the bike around, and measure again
(compensating for angle of the ground). Because my angle checker
is so cheap, and the indicator needle isn't straight, I also measure with
the checker facing both ways. I average the 4 measurements. With a
known level surface, and a good tool, measuring once would work.

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> If you don't like the slack angle it will go down to 100mm - 4.0 lbs
>
Have you measured your head angle at 130mm & 100mm? If so, please

post

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up.

any hints on how to do that accurately would be appreciated

I use a cheap angle checker I got from 3rd Hand (online) .
I measure the angle, then turn the bike around, and measure again
(compensating for angle of the ground). Because my angle checker
is so cheap, and the indicator needle isn't straight, I also measure with
the checker facing both ways. I average the 4 measurements. With a
known level surface, and a good tool, measuring once would work.

Have you measured the difference in changing from a 100mm to a 130mm fork
on your bike?

or some other combination.?

is 3rd hand a bike shop? my search engine can't find it easily. do you
have a link?

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I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing.
The rest, I've just wasted.

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Have you measured the difference in changing from a 100mm to a 130mm fork
on your bike?

or some other combination.?

No. I've measured different bikes though. I changed a bike I was riding from 130 to 105,
but that was before I had the angle checker.

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is 3rd hand a bike shop? my search engine can't find it easily. do you
have a link?

I think it used to be www.thirdhand.com, but doesn't seem to be there now.
They had lots of bike tools.

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is 3rd hand a bike shop? my search engine can't find it easily. do you

have a link?

Your local hardware store should have an angle checker. Hopefully one short enough to
place on your head tube. It's tricky to measure bikes when the head tube is shorter than
the checker.

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is 3rd hand a bike shop? my search engine can't find it easily. do you
have a link?

New name:
http://www.loosescrews.com/

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is 3rd hand a bike shop? my search engine can't find it easily.

do you

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have a link?

New name:
http://www.loosescrews.com/

Dang, that place sure looks familar....

Hmmmm www.biketoolsetc.com

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I really would dissagree with the assertion that air forks are adjustment hogs. I have used my Marzo Z.4 air for over 4 yrs and it never looses air and I only have to maintain it as I would my coil shock(periodic external seal oiling).
I ride in snow as well as summer race seasons and I have specifically looked for this thermal expansion induced lockout. Never found it.