Jetboil

In message <[email hidden]>, Carl
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Ooooohh! New toy to buy

Jetboil seems to be a pan with shield included for use with gas
canisters

http://www.jetboil.com/

http://www.fieldandtrek.com/product.asp?pf_id=18073&src=EN85L

£60-00 with p+p added and F+T discounted subtracted

The aquisitive gadget geek in me says "buy it"

but at 425 grams, it would have to be a long trip before it payed for
itself in any fuel savings, and as I don't think it would be much good
for proper cooking, it might only be used on short trips.

so can anyone see any real use for this ?

I think I have talked myself out of buying it already

I see from a post back on Sept 2, that Chris Townsend has tested it.
How was it Chris, if you are reading. (maybe I should have bought a
recent TGO)

My review hasn't appeared in TGO yet! I think it'll be in the next
issue. There is a description and preliminary review in the latest
edition of my Backpacker's Handbook (just out).

The advantage of the Jetboil is fuel efficiency. It has a built in heat
exchanger and a neoprene pot cover and these do make a big difference.
However even with this increased fuel efficiency the Jetboil isn't quite
as light as a stove like the Primus Micron or MSR Pocket Rocket plus a
litre size titanium or aluminium pot.

I've taken it on a couple of backpacking trips and it's fine for the
sort of one pot cooking I do - boil and simmer basically.

Chris

http://www.auchnarrow.demon.co.uk

"Chris Townsend" <[email hidden]> wrote

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There is a description and preliminary review in the latest
edition of my Backpacker's Handbook (just out).

Didn't see any copies in any of the book shops in Bristol the other day.
(Stanfords, Borders, Blackwells).

I had one demonstrated to me in our local shop the other day. I was very
impressed. 90 seconds (aprox) to boil just under a pint of water. It's
starts to bubble instantly and if you are just doing boil in the bag type
meals it looks fantastic.

I would be tempted but I like my Trangia too much.

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"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Chris Townsend" <[email hidden]> wrote

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There is a description and preliminary review in the latest
edition of my Backpacker's Handbook (just out).

Didn't see any copies in any of the book shops in Bristol the other day.
(Stanfords, Borders, Blackwells).

In message <[email hidden]>, AndyP
<[email hidden]> writes

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"Chris Townsend" <[email hidden]> wrote

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There is a description and preliminary review in the latest
edition of my Backpacker's Handbook (just out).

Didn't see any copies in any of the book shops in Bristol the other day.
(Stanfords, Borders, Blackwells).

It was published in October. I don't know how many shops are stocking
it. There's been one review so far on Outdoors Magic:

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/2991/v/3/sp/

Chris

http://www.auchnarrow.demon.co.uk

Chris Townsend wrote

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There is a description and preliminary review in the latest
edition of my Backpacker's Handbook (just out).

Didn't see any copies in any of the book shops in Bristol the other day.
(Stanfords, Borders, Blackwells).

It was published in October. I don't know how many shops are stocking
it. There's been one review so far on Outdoors Magic:

There seem to be lots in Amazon, from where I ordered it last week. It
arrived on Monday.

As someone that used to do some backpacking when I were a lad, but who
hasn't done any for, ooh, more than half my life now but fancies having a go
again, I thought I'd give it a read. Nowhere near finished it yet, but its
been damn good so far.

Initial thought: there's, perhaps understandably, an American focus to the
book. This isn't an obstacle and most of the units are easily translated
except for one, which relates to rucksacks. Just how many cubic inches make
up a litre?

If people wish, I'll post a review after finishing the book.

T.

In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Buckley
<[email hidden]> writes

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Just how many cubic inches make
up a litre?

61

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Dominic Sexton said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Tony Buckley
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Just how many cubic inches make
up a litre?

61

Which you can estimate by considering what a litre is: a cube of side
10 cm. So that's about 4" - just under, giving 4 x 4 x 4 = 64. Knock
off a tiny bit. Hey presto!

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Dominic Sexton wrote

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Just how many cubic inches make
up a litre?

61

Though Rooney wrote

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Which you can estimate by considering what a litre is: a cube of side
10 cm.

In theory, but not necessarily in rucksacks! Nevertheless, the point being
that a conversion factor in the book's appendix along with the other
conversion factors would have made things much simpler for those reading of
an evening with a beer in hand.

I think some of the figures discussed relate to capactities of 5, 6 and
7,000 cubic inches (ci), which works out as 82, 98 and 115 litres. These
seem like big numbers to me, but as I've said I've not done any of this for
a good while and didn't tackle walks of the time that Chris has (nor
anywhere near as remote from the joys of civilisation!). The more common UK
rucksack capacities of 65 and 75 litres are 3,965 and 4,575 ci,
respectively. I now have something to compare the figures in the book
against when I re-read these sections.

Thanks chaps.

T.

"Tony Buckley" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Initial thought: there's, perhaps understandably, an American focus to
the book. This isn't an obstacle and most of the units are easily
translated except for one, which relates to rucksacks. Just how many
cubic inches make up a litre?

You might be interested in a feature of Google. If you type in:

1 litre in cu in

it replies with

1 litre = 61.0237441 cu in

does all sorts of calculations

John

John Yale

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You might be interested in a feature of Google. If you type in:

1 litre in cu in

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... does all sorts of calculations

Cheers John, didn't know that. Ain't technology marvellous? (1)

T.
(1) when it works...

Chris Townsend said:

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There is a description and preliminary review in the latest
edition of my Backpacker's Handbook (just out).

Didn't see any copies in any of the book shops in Bristol the other day.
(Stanfords, Borders, Blackwells).

It was published in October. I don't know how many shops are stocking
it. There's been one review so far on Outdoors Magic:

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/2991/v/3/sp/

I couldn't get it locally (bookshops seem to be carrying less of the
absolutely mainstream stuff these days), but had no difficulty
ordering it, and it arrived this morning.

I've had a chance to take a quick look through, and it looks
absolutely excellent: comprehensive, interesting and well illustrated.
Sad person that I am, I plan to take it to bed with a large mug of tea
in a little while 🙂

Best wishes,
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In message <[email hidden]>, Peewiglet
<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Townsend said:

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> There is a description and preliminary review in the latest
> edition of my Backpacker's Handbook (just out).

Didn't see any copies in any of the book shops in Bristol the other day.
(Stanfords, Borders, Blackwells).

It was published in October. I don't know how many shops are stocking
it. There's been one review so far on Outdoors Magic:

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/2991/v/3/sp/

I couldn't get it locally (bookshops seem to be carrying less of the
absolutely mainstream stuff these days), but had no difficulty
ordering it, and it arrived this morning.

I've had a chance to take a quick look through, and it looks
absolutely excellent: comprehensive, interesting and well illustrated.
Sad person that I am, I plan to take it to bed with a large mug of tea
in a little while 🙂

Thanks for buying a copy. I hope you enjoy it.

Carl said:

I see from a post back on Sept 2, that Chris Townsend has tested it.
How was it Chris, if you are reading. (maybe I should have bought a
recent TGO)

Hi

BackpackGearTest.org testers (three individual testers) have played
with the Jetboil Personal Cooking System in the field for six months.
You can read the reports at
<http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Cook%20Gear/Stoves/Jetboil%20Personal%20Cooking%20System/>.

Cheers
Andrew