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  1. Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  2. Yes, I experienced this in the early months of my diet. there were several
    reasons for this:
    I had been over weight for decades so any weight loss looked good at first,
    but when i approached the weight i had in college (my target) the weight
    loss appeared extreme to my family. After a year of getting used to my
    appearance (http://home.triad.rr.com/bmorrell/weightlossface.pps) they have
    adjusted.
    The nature of the diet certainly will give your loved ones pause, this is
    inevitable and justifiable . But results trump concern, my weight bp and
    cholesterol are down, and so are the concerns of my family

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner
    with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the
    beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and
    a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms
    around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T
    look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb
    stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because
    it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so
    excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach
    my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  3. sorry, accidentally sent before finishing:
    Yes, I experienced this in the early months of my diet. there were several
    reasons for this:
    I had been over weight for decades so any weight loss looked good at first,
    but when i approached the weight i had in college (my target) the weight
    loss appeared extreme to my family. After a year of getting used to my
    appearance (http://home.triad.rr.com/bmorrell/weightlossface.pps) they have
    adjusted.
    The nature of the diet certainly will give your loved ones pause, this is
    inevitable and justifiable it is new and controversial. But results trump
    concern, my weight bp and
    cholesterol are down, and so are the concerns of my family.
    I too have been censured for obsession with fitday, though i use it mainly
    to track weight and exercise. But my attitude is whatever it takes to stay
    focused is what i need to do. Others are either thin naturally and do not
    understand what is like to struggle, or are overweight and have not
    confronted it themselves.
    I do not think family members consciously try to keep you from losing weight
    because they themselves are overweight, but i think that only those who have
    struggled to lose weight will understand. Every single person I have talked
    to who has lost weight understands, sympathizes and encourages without
    reservation, even those who use different approaches.

    Stick with it.

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner
    with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the
    beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and
    a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms
    around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T
    look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb
    stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because
    it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so
    excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach
    my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  4. I think you got it right in suggesting that lost weight can be thought of as
    a symptom of illness. They may even think that LC is bad for you.

    It concerns me, that you are not monitoring carbs.

    I recently saw the movie "The Machinist." It shows the results of losing
    too much weight. At 186, you are not in that danger.

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner


    with

    Quoted message said:

    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the


    beginning,

    Quoted message said:

    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and


    a

    Quoted message said:

    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms


    around

    Quoted message said:

    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T


    look

    Quoted message said:

    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb


    stuff

    Quoted message said:

    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because


    it

    Quoted message said:

    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so


    excited

    Quoted message said:

    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach


    my

    Quoted message said:

    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  5. At 186, you're not that thin yet. It probably just looks like you've lost a
    lot to your parents when compared to where you started. They most likely
    mean well, but you have to decide whether you have the will to break with
    the past. And yes, when I get down to lower bodyfat percentages, I get
    comments. I just chalk them up to lack of education.

    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner
    with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the
    beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and
    a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms
    around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T
    look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb
    stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because
    it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so
    excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach
    my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  6. Thanks for your thoughts, Cubit. I am still monitoring my carbs, but I'm
    introducing whole grains and fruit back into my diet, and I'm gradually
    switching to counting calories. My carbs are now between 50-70 daily, as an
    average.

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/185/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I think you got it right in suggesting that lost weight can be thought of


    as

    Quoted message said:

    a symptom of illness. They may even think that LC is bad for you.

    It concerns me, that you are not monitoring carbs.

    I recently saw the movie "The Machinist." It shows the results of losing
    too much weight. At 186, you are not in that danger.

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner


    with

    Quoted message said:

    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the


    beginning,

    Quoted message said:

    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks


    and

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms


    around

    Quoted message said:

    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight.


    Mom

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T


    look

    Quoted message said:

    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb


    stuff

    Quoted message said:

    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie


    because

    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:

    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to


    keep

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.)


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so


    excited

    Quoted message said:

    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to


    reach

    Quoted message said:

    my

    Quoted message said:

    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  7. I don't understand why you don't just ASK your parents why they think you
    should stop. Then you can openly discuss their fears.

    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner


    with

    Quoted message said:

    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the


    beginning,

    Quoted message said:

    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and


    a

    Quoted message said:

    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms


    around

    Quoted message said:

    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T


    look

    Quoted message said:

    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb


    stuff

    Quoted message said:

    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because


    it

    Quoted message said:

    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so


    excited

    Quoted message said:

    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach


    my

    Quoted message said:

    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  8. Thanks, bob. Your advice really helped me feel better. And you hit the
    nail on the head when you said that 'whatever it takes to stay focused.'
    I'm looking at changing my attitude and way of approaching food, and it will
    last me the rest of my life. I will always have to closely monitor my
    calories (and to keep watch on carbs, to a lesser extent).

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    sorry, accidentally sent before finishing:
    Yes, I experienced this in the early months of my diet. there were several
    reasons for this:
    I had been over weight for decades so any weight loss looked good at


    first,

    Quoted message said:

    but when i approached the weight i had in college (my target) the weight
    loss appeared extreme to my family. After a year of getting used to my
    appearance (http://home.triad.rr.com/bmorrell/weightlossface.pps) they


    have

    Quoted message said:

    adjusted.
    The nature of the diet certainly will give your loved ones pause, this is
    inevitable and justifiable it is new and controversial. But results trump
    concern, my weight bp and
    cholesterol are down, and so are the concerns of my family.
    I too have been censured for obsession with fitday, though i use it mainly
    to track weight and exercise. But my attitude is whatever it takes to stay
    focused is what i need to do. Others are either thin naturally and do not
    understand what is like to struggle, or are overweight and have not
    confronted it themselves.
    I do not think family members consciously try to keep you from losing


    weight

    Quoted message said:

    because they themselves are overweight, but i think that only those who


    have

    Quoted message said:

    struggled to lose weight will understand. Every single person I have


    talked

    Quoted message said:

    to who has lost weight understands, sympathizes and encourages without
    reservation, even those who use different approaches.

    Stick with it.

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner
    with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the
    beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms
    around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight.


    Mom

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T
    look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb
    stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie


    because

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to


    keep

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.)


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so
    excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to


    reach

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  9. Thanks, JC. Although I am not 'thin' now, I'm at the lowest weight than I
    ever remember being as an adult. I even weigh less than I did when I
    graduated from high school (190). Consequently, they would have trouble
    seeing me healthy this 'small.' It's no wonder, then, that they are
    concerned about me.

    But it's my life, my health, and I'm 'staying the course.'

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    At 186, you're not that thin yet. It probably just looks like you've lost


    a

    Quoted message said:

    lot to your parents when compared to where you started. They most likely
    mean well, but you have to decide whether you have the will to break with
    the past. And yes, when I get down to lower bodyfat percentages, I get
    comments. I just chalk them up to lack of education.

    --

    Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

    --
    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner
    with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the
    beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms
    around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight.


    Mom

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T
    look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb
    stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie


    because

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they


    feel

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    Quoted message said:

    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to


    keep

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    Quoted message said:

    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.)


    I

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    Quoted message said:

    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk


    on

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    Quoted message said:

    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so
    excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to


    reach

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  10. Well, like I said, we were literally on our way out the door, and it's not a
    subject that I wanted to broach in front of ALL of my relatives. Everyone
    else was VERY supportive of my success.

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "Deb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I don't understand why you don't just ASK your parents why they think you
    should stop. Then you can openly discuss their fears.

    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner


    with

    Quoted message said:

    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the


    beginning,

    Quoted message said:

    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks


    and

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms


    around

    Quoted message said:

    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight.


    Mom

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T


    look

    Quoted message said:

    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb


    stuff

    Quoted message said:

    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie


    because

    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:

    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to


    keep

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.)


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so


    excited

    Quoted message said:

    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to


    reach

    Quoted message said:

    my

    Quoted message said:

    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

  11. "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner
    with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the
    beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and
    a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms
    around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T
    look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb
    stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because
    it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so
    excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach
    my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160

    You know, I don't know if I'm thin or not. I feel like a fat guy losing
    weight, not a thin guy or anything. People tell me that I'm wasting away,
    and stuff, and I don't even have a good mirror to see what is going on, and
    I have changed pants size twice in the last few months, but I just don't
    really get into it.

    I know well that our brains don't catch up to our bodies. We can be thin
    and delicious, but we don't get there in our minds as soon as our bodies get
    there. We are going to think of ourselves as fat people. It takes a long
    time to get over that.

  12. "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner
    with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and family
    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the
    beginning,
    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting ready to
    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks and
    a
    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms
    around
    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight. Mom
    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me how
    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T
    look
    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup of
    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb
    stuff
    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie because
    it
    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at dinner!)

    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight since
    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad may
    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they feel
    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to keep
    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an obsession.) I
    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk on
    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so
    excited
    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my calories to
    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to reach
    my
    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    I've experienced the same thing from several people, mostly family. One
    female relative has accused me face to face of changing my personality after
    a 58 pound weight loss. That's probably true🙂 I walk with my head up, laugh
    out loud more often and generally am having a great time, self confidant. I
    really didn't feel good about myself when I was fat. The other day a
    saleslady steered me away from a sweater I liked because it was a plus size.
    Ain't life grand? Oh, I also have a formerly slim sister that acts a little
    colder towards me and a skinny sister that acts like nothing happened. As
    far as what people are motivated by, my hubby thinks it's a lot of jealousy.
    Love that man! BTW, mom thinks I look like I'm not feeling well. I think she
    was just used to me being chubby. FTR, she has always been thin and has had
    2 by pass surgeries (8 arteries!).

    Nancy J
    from a size 22 to a 12

  13. Thanks, Ig. I've decided that I'm doing this for my health, so I'm not
    letting anything stop me.

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "Ignoramus19295" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    (original post snipped)

    Quoted message said:

    Same from my diabetic MIL. You have quite a bit to lose still, to be
    anywhere close to a danger zone, so I would not worry. You can tell
    your dad that you are not trying to lose weight, and continue to lose.

    --
    223/172.8/180

  14. Thanks, Nancy! I know that my attitude has changed since losing 100+
    pounds! I've noticed more confidence in myself for starters. I also feel
    much healthier on this woe, but it is hard to understand the mindset of my
    diabetic parents even when I tell them that this woe will help stave off
    diabetes. I'm NOT stopping!

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "Nancy J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote


    (snipped)

    Quoted message said:

    I've experienced the same thing from several people, mostly family. One
    female relative has accused me face to face of changing my personality


    after

    Quoted message said:

    a 58 pound weight loss. That's probably true🙂 I walk with my head up,


    laugh

    Quoted message said:

    out loud more often and generally am having a great time, self confidant.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    really didn't feel good about myself when I was fat. The other day a
    saleslady steered me away from a sweater I liked because it was a plus


    size.

    Quoted message said:

    Ain't life grand? Oh, I also have a formerly slim sister that acts a


    little

    Quoted message said:

    colder towards me and a skinny sister that acts like nothing happened. As
    far as what people are motivated by, my hubby thinks it's a lot of


    jealousy.

    Quoted message said:

    Love that man! BTW, mom thinks I look like I'm not feeling well. I think


    she

    Quoted message said:

    was just used to me being chubby. FTR, she has always been thin and has


    had

    Quoted message said:

    2 by pass surgeries (8 arteries!).

    Nancy J
    from a size 22 to a 12

  15. I feel exactly the same way---like a fat woman who's losing weight! I know
    that my body is smaller than it used to be, but I, too, have a hard time
    seeing it. I've still got 'miles' to go, but I know that by following this
    woe, I'm doing healthy stuff for my body. Thanks for your help!

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "Jim Bard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    (snipped)

    Quoted message said:

    You know, I don't know if I'm thin or not. I feel like a fat guy losing
    weight, not a thin guy or anything. People tell me that I'm wasting away,
    and stuff, and I don't even have a good mirror to see what is going on,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I have changed pants size twice in the last few months, but I just don't
    really get into it.

    I know well that our brains don't catch up to our bodies. We can be thin
    and delicious, but we don't get there in our minds as soon as our bodies


    get

    Quoted message said:

    there. We are going to think of ourselves as fat people. It takes a long
    time to get over that.

  16. Lady o' the house said:

    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner with
    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    I think that your husband could be correct in his take on the
    situation. However, what I've seen happen in families when some
    changes has more to do with the fear. Some people fear that if
    the statis quo of their world changes it could mean they would
    have to change in some way as well.

    If you've played a certain "role" in the family, then by losing
    weight and achieving better health it means you've somehow
    changed and they have to view (or treat) you differently. They
    may not what you to change because they will have to change how
    they see/react to the new you.

    I don't know your family or you, but I've seen families react in
    very odd ways when a member makes a lifestyle change... even it
    the change is a very positive one.

    -
    Rudy - Remove the Z from my address to respond.

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!"
    -Emiliano Zapata

    Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at:
    http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm

  17. "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    : Thanks, Nancy! I know that my attitude has changed since losing 100+
    : pounds! I've noticed more confidence in myself for starters. I also feel
    : much healthier on this woe, but it is hard to understand the mindset of my
    : diabetic parents even when I tell them that this woe will help stave off
    : diabetes. I'm NOT stopping!
    :
    : --
    : Linda

    My first thought after reading the initial post, was that perhaps your
    parents are afraid you've gotten anorexia nervosa. But, you're not THAT
    thin. Still, maybe this is on their mind....

    Maybe you should reassure them you're not "fanatic" about this---simply
    educated and determined.

    Pat in TX

  18. RRzVRR said:

    I don't know your family or you, but I've seen families react in
    very odd ways when a member makes a lifestyle change... even it
    the change is a very positive one.

    Yes, agree. It's part of what must be conquered.

    Losing/maintaining weight, most often, has to be a "Me First" approach. Why
    not? An unhealthy, shortened life doesn't equate to anything except a lack
    of personal responsibility.

  19. Parents do not have an objective view of their offspring.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Lady o' the house <[email hidden]> stated
    | Thanks, Nancy! I know that my attitude has changed since losing 100+
    | pounds! I've noticed more confidence in myself for starters. I also
    | feel much healthier on this woe, but it is hard to understand the
    | mindset of my diabetic parents even when I tell them that this woe
    | will help stave off diabetes. I'm NOT stopping!
    |
    | --
    | Linda
    | LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    | 296/186/160
    | http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    | http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo
    |

  20. Calorie counting with calorie restriction works. However, IMHO, as your
    carbs go up, maintaining a calorie restriction will become increasingly
    difficult. Diets that try to be popular reject calorie counting, because it
    is not marketable. Have you considered doing low carb AND restricting
    calories at the same time?

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for your thoughts, Cubit. I am still monitoring my carbs, but I'm
    introducing whole grains and fruit back into my diet, and I'm gradually
    switching to counting calories. My carbs are now between 50-70 daily, as


    an

    Quoted message said:

    average.

    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/185/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

    "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I think you got it right in suggesting that lost weight can be thought


    of

    Quoted message said:

    as

    Quoted message said:

    a symptom of illness. They may even think that LC is bad for you.

    It concerns me, that you are not monitoring carbs.

    I recently saw the movie "The Machinist." It shows the results of


    losing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    too much weight. At 186, you are not in that danger.

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Something's been bugging me since coming back from Thanksgiving dinner


    with

    Quoted message said:

    my family, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

    Up until this time, I've gotten so much support from friends and


    family

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about my woe. While some friends voiced their skepticism in the


    beginning,

    Quoted message said:

    they now see proof that low carb has really been good for me.

    So, at Thanksgiving at my brother and sil's home, we were getting read


    y

    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    leave and my dad, who BTW suffers from heart disease (2 heart attacks


    and

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    quadruple bypass) and is an insulin-dependent diabetic, put his arms


    around

    Quoted message said:

    me, looked me in the eye, and said that I should stop losing weight.


    Mom

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    echoed his remark. I was so taken aback! Everyone else there told me


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    great I looked, but I get the impression that my parents think I DON'T


    look

    Quoted message said:

    that good. (At dinner that night, I did allow myself about a half cup


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    dressing, some sweet potato, along with turkey and the other low carb


    stuff

    Quoted message said:

    on the buffet, and a couple of bites of pie---didn't like the pie


    because

    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:

    was TOO sweet! So noone can say that I was being obsessive at


    dinner!)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    DH tried to explain it to me that my dad has lost a lot of weight


    since

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    becoming diabetic and suffering from heart disease. He said that Dad


    may

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    equate weight loss with poor health. DH also offered that maybe they


    feel

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm becoming obsessed with it (I do use Fitday pretty religiously to


    keep

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    track of what I've eaten, but I don't feel that makes it an


    obsession.)

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have been sharing my weight loss progress with my parents when we talk


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the phone, but that's only because after years of being obese I'm so


    excited

    Quoted message said:

    to see results and to feel better.

    So, lately I'm not watching carbs so much, but I am keeping my


    calories

    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an average of between 1200 and 1300. I guess that I'll keep this up,
    privately, and not mention anything more about it. I still want to


    reach

    Quoted message said:

    my

    Quoted message said:

    original goal of 160. Has anyone else experienced anything like


    this?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    --
    Linda
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    296/186/160
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html
    http://community.webshots.com/user/mslewtoo

    "Are you telling me there are dead people in my living room watching
    videos?"--Nina (Truly, Madly, Deeply)

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