Bet ya-45 spoke wheel

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya the
pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes?

Zog The Undeniable said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya the
pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes?

Either that, or one with 18 spokes on the left, 27 on the right?

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Zog The Undeniable said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya the
pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes?

Either that, or one with 18 spokes on the left, 27 on the right?

--

David L. Johnson

__o | And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you
_`\(,_ | killed all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds,
(_)/ (_) | thousands would rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't
kill that fast. -- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).

Zog-<< A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes? >><BR><BR>

I answer-nope, none of the spokes are broken, pic on the way.

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On 27 Nov 2004 15:34:14 GMT, [email hidden] (Qui si parla

Campagnolo ) said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya the
pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

What, some goofy three-flange thing with three rows of 15 radially
spoked? Or a 36 on which one quarter of them were double-inserted at
the factory by the brain-dead assembly machine?
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David L. Johnson said:

Zog The Undeniable said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya the
pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes?

Either that, or one with 18 spokes on the left, 27 on the right?

If the latter, then the right would naturally be spoked so that 18
pull and 9 push.
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Zog-<< A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes? >><BR><BR>

I answer-nope, none of the spokes are broken, pic on the way.

Whatdayabet the flange is broken.........

Fourty FIVE spokes? I can't see how you could get an even number per
side, unless it was a three or five sided wheel!

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And a really low gear for the hills!"

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(Chris Zacho 'The Wheelman') said:

Fourty FIVE spokes? I can't see how you could get an even number per
side, unless it was a three or five sided wheel!

Even then it is going to be tough!

Zog The Undeniable said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya
the pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes?

A 44-spoke wheel with a spare taped to it.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Distortion Field!

Meccanicodibici-<< Whatdayabet the flange is broken.. >><BR><BR>

Ya havin' fun in the anonymous world of NG??

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
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Quoted message said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya the
pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Dear Peter,

Here are your pictures of the 45-spoke wheel for everyone to admire:

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel3.jpg

Carl Fogel

Carl Fogel said:

Dear Peter,

Here are your pictures of the 45-spoke wheel for everyone to admire:

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel3.jpg

That's bound to be a really fast wheel; it's got more trailing spokes than
leading spokes, for more "pulling power"!

--
Benjamin Lewis

Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

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I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and

I'll send ya the

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pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Dear Peter,

Here are your pictures of the 45-spoke wheel for everyone to

admire:

Quoted message said:

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel3.jpg

Is that a spot on the flange where someone started drilling, and
then stopped? -- Jay Beattie.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Zog-<< A 48-spoke wheel with three broken spokes? >><BR><BR>

I answer-nope, none of the spokes are broken, pic on the way.

Looks like Sheldon's Symmetrispoke wheel. Horrible!

Carl Fogel said:

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Quoted message said:

I'll bet ya a 6 pack that there is such a thing. Email me and I'll send ya the
pix of the wheel that came in the other day.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Dear Peter,

Here are your pictures of the 45-spoke wheel for everyone to admire:

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel3.jpg

Carl Fogel

technically, to maintain equal spoke length on the drive side, the rim's
got to be drilled different. if the first pulling spoke is #1, and the
extra hub hole is drilled in the center [opposite the hole on the
opposite side], the extra spoke should be much closer to the second rim
hole of the opposite spoke [theoretically at exactly the same place],
not in the middle of the two.

very interesting pattern though!

Peter Chisholm said:

I answer-nope, none of the spokes are broken, picture on the way.

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel3.jpg

So who came up with this idea. Apparently there was a suspicion that
drive torque required more spokes. However, that is untrue because
all the right side spokes contribute to propelling the bicycle, some
getting tighter, some looser by an equal amount, thereby contributing
equally to torque transmission. Another kind of "standing on the
spokes" misunderstanding.

Not only that, but the double spokes must be half as tight as the
single ones on the right side of the wheel or there would be a net
twist on the hub center shaft. Hubs are often ruined by incorrect
spoke lacing that is far less forceful than this concept. I notice
that there is an identified flange failure in the picture as well.

I guess someone rode this wheel but I can't guess what the builder
thought.

Jobst Brandt
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Carl Fogel said:

Here are your pictures of the 45-spoke wheel for everyone to admire:

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~carlfogel/download/wheel3.jpg

Impressive, almost on a par with the rare 25-speed "Dual Drive" Phil
Wood hub:

http://members.cox.net/lioninoil/phil25sp.jpg

.... or Phil's eternally-backordered 96-spoke hub:

http://www.mtbr.com/spotlight/jul00/images/bMVC-009F.jpg

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