New challenges

Luna said:

Man. Here I was thinking that LC was easy, that I'd never want to go back
to eating the junk I used to eat, and all along I had no idea how big a
part my environment was playing. I live with my dad and he was doing LC
too for a while, but he stopped. Weight and food are kind of sensitive
subjects in our house, so I haven't asked him why he stopped, but I think a
lot of it has to do with his working long hours, spending a lot of time
driving, and the convenience of being able to get a burger at a drive
through and eat it while driving, as opposed to getting a salad or a steak
or something else that you actually have to sit and eat with a knife and
fork. It's not an excuse of course, I think he could have stuck to LC
anyway, he just chose a more convenient route. As far as I can tell he
isn't gaining, and he is keeping the exercise up, so I'm not too worried
about him yet.

The problem for me is there are now temptations in my house that weren't
there before. Chips, donuts, candy, bread, cake, etc. It was a lot easier
not to eat these things when they weren't around. I look back over the
past few weeks and realize I may be heading down a dangerous road with a
little nibble here and another little nibble there. I've not gone
overboard yet, but I have been dipping my toes in the water.

For example, we both had the day off, and we had a late breakfast of steak
and eggs. My dad had toast and asked if I wanted some, and I said no
thanks, but when he handed me half a slice I went ahead and used it to sop
up the remainder of my egg yolk and ate it. Later on he was eating a donut
and I had a bite. Tonight my dinner was a vegetable stir-fry with chicken,
and then about an hour later my dad made chicken salad and I had some on a
Ritz cracker. Half a slice of toast, a bite of a donut, and one Ritz
cracker are not exactly disaster, but if I keep doing this I know it will
turn into just a little more, then just a little more than that, and so on
until I'm right back where I was.

So basically I've discovered I am not immune to temptation, and I need to
be more disciplined and more vigilant.

Perhaps you need to ask your father not to "help" you break your eating
plan.

It isn't "Perhaps", you have to do it.

Intimate family can be so destructive because of the intimacy.

The "Junk Food" lying around is of a different sort of issue than your
father ACTIVELY putting the wrong foods into your hands, but it isn't
all that much different either.

Intimate family can be so destructive because of the intimacy.

Jim

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Get your own place, Luna.

Luna wrote:
|| Man. Here I was thinking that LC was easy, that I'd never want to
|| go back to eating the junk I used to eat, and all along I had no
|| idea how big a part my environment was playing. I live with my dad
|| and he was doing LC too for a while, but he stopped. Weight and
|| food are kind of sensitive subjects in our house, so I haven't asked
|| him why he stopped, but I think a lot of it has to do with his
|| working long hours, spending a lot of time driving, and the
|| convenience of being able to get a burger at a drive through and eat
|| it while driving, as opposed to getting a salad or a steak or
|| something else that you actually have to sit and eat with a knife
|| and fork. It's not an excuse of course, I think he could have stuck
|| to LC anyway, he just chose a more convenient route. As far as I
|| can tell he isn't gaining, and he is keeping the exercise up, so I'm
|| not too worried about him yet.
||
|| The problem for me is there are now temptations in my house that
|| weren't there before. Chips, donuts, candy, bread, cake, etc. It
|| was a lot easier not to eat these things when they weren't around.
|| I look back over the past few weeks and realize I may be heading
|| down a dangerous road with a little nibble here and another little
|| nibble there. I've not gone overboard yet, but I have been dipping
|| my toes in the water.
||
|| For example, we both had the day off, and we had a late breakfast of
|| steak and eggs. My dad had toast and asked if I wanted some, and I
|| said no thanks, but when he handed me half a slice I went ahead and
|| used it to sop up the remainder of my egg yolk and ate it. Later on
|| he was eating a donut and I had a bite. Tonight my dinner was a
|| vegetable stir-fry with chicken, and then about an hour later my dad
|| made chicken salad and I had some on a Ritz cracker. Half a slice
|| of toast, a bite of a donut, and one Ritz cracker are not exactly
|| disaster, but if I keep doing this I know it will turn into just a
|| little more, then just a little more than that, and so on until I'm
|| right back where I was.
||
|| So basically I've discovered I am not immune to temptation, and I
|| need to be more disciplined and more vigilant.
||
|| --
|| Michelle Levin
|| http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
||
|| I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
|| flaws.

Perhaps you could keep some of the lc versions of those foods around and
introduce your father to them. LC bread isn't too bad at all.
Just a thought.
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"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Man. Here I was thinking that LC was easy, that I'd never want to go back
to eating the junk I used to eat, and all along I had no idea how big a
part my environment was playing. I live with my dad and he was doing LC
too for a while, but he stopped. Weight and food are kind of sensitive
subjects in our house, so I haven't asked him why he stopped, but I think
a
lot of it has to do with his working long hours, spending a lot of time
driving, and the convenience of being able to get a burger at a drive
through and eat it while driving, as opposed to getting a salad or a steak
or something else that you actually have to sit and eat with a knife and
fork. It's not an excuse of course, I think he could have stuck to LC
anyway, he just chose a more convenient route. As far as I can tell he
isn't gaining, and he is keeping the exercise up, so I'm not too worried
about him yet.

The problem for me is there are now temptations in my house that weren't
there before. Chips, donuts, candy, bread, cake, etc. It was a lot
easier
not to eat these things when they weren't around. I look back over the
past few weeks and realize I may be heading down a dangerous road with a
little nibble here and another little nibble there. I've not gone
overboard yet, but I have been dipping my toes in the water.

For example, we both had the day off, and we had a late breakfast of steak
and eggs. My dad had toast and asked if I wanted some, and I said no
thanks, but when he handed me half a slice I went ahead and used it to sop
up the remainder of my egg yolk and ate it. Later on he was eating a
donut
and I had a bite. Tonight my dinner was a vegetable stir-fry with
chicken,
and then about an hour later my dad made chicken salad and I had some on a
Ritz cracker. Half a slice of toast, a bite of a donut, and one Ritz
cracker are not exactly disaster, but if I keep doing this I know it will
turn into just a little more, then just a little more than that, and so on
until I'm right back where I was.

So basically I've discovered I am not immune to temptation, and I need to
be more disciplined and more vigilant.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

Get your own place, Luna.

That's a whole 'nother can of worms.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point? Like, he
keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed everytime
he's not looking?

Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action short of
moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking when I was
living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other than that, I
think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(SMICK818) said:

Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point? Like, he
keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed everytime
he's not looking?

Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action short of
moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking when I was
living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other than that,
I
think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.

White knuckling is my plan. In my opinion it would be rude of me to ask
him not to buy the food he wants to eat. It's much more fair for me just
not to eat it. Just because stuff is in the house doesn't mean I have to
eat it, and it's not like I'm the only person dealing with a situation like
this. And even if I could move out, I'd most likely still have to have
roommates, and there's no guarantee they'd be doing low-carb.

I don't think it's impossible for me not to eat the carby food. I just have
to remind myself every time I'm tempted that those foods are not good for
me.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Leran how to quote properly, idiot.

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"SMICK818" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point? Like, he
keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed
everytime
he's not looking?

Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action short of
moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking when I
was
living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other than
that, I
think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.

Wow, you're jumping on Smick for not quoting, yet I get by totally
unscathed for eating carby foods. You don't love me anymore.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Leran how to quote properly, idiot.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"SMICK818" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point? Like, he
keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed
everytime
he's not looking?

Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action short of
moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking when I
was
living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other than
that, I
think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Quoted message said:

So basically I've discovered I am not immune to temptation, and I need to
be more disciplined and more vigilant.

good for you, nip it in the bud!

Perhaps there is still hope for Smick.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Wow, you're jumping on Smick for not quoting, yet I get by totally
unscathed for eating carby foods. You don't love me anymore.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Leran how to quote properly, idiot.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"SMICK818" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point? Like,
he
keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed
everytime
he's not looking?

Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action short
of
moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking when I
was
living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other than
that, I
think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

That's exactly what I meant. Anyway, I've made a conscious decision to
just maintain my weight for now. I know what needs to be done to lose
more, I just don't currently want it badly enough to do it. I do badly
want to not gain anything back though, and so far so good with that plan.
Once I decide to make the final push, will you start kicking my ass again?

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Perhaps there is still hope for Smick.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Wow, you're jumping on Smick for not quoting, yet I get by totally
unscathed for eating carby foods. You don't love me anymore.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Leran how to quote properly, idiot.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"SMICK818" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point? Like,
> he
> keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed
> everytime
> he's not looking?
>
> Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action short
> of
> moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking when I
> was
> living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other than
> that, I
> think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

You're still fat. How much more motivation do you need?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That's exactly what I meant. Anyway, I've made a conscious decision to
just maintain my weight for now. I know what needs to be done to lose
more, I just don't currently want it badly enough to do it. I do badly
want to not gain anything back though, and so far so good with that plan.
Once I decide to make the final push, will you start kicking my ass again?

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Perhaps there is still hope for Smick.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Wow, you're jumping on Smick for not quoting, yet I get by totally
unscathed for eating carby foods. You don't love me anymore.

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Leran how to quote properly, idiot.
>
> --
> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
>
>
> "SMICK818" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point?
> > Like,
> > he
> > keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed
> > everytime
> > he's not looking?
> >
> > Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action
> > short
> > of
> > moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking
> > when I
> > was
> > living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other
> > than
> > that, I
> > think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

I don't know, really. I'm thin enough that I'm not worried about an
imminent threat of obesity related diseases, I'm thin enough to feel
reasonably attractive, I'm thin enough to not have to shop in specialty
stores or the plus-sized section, and I'm in good enough shape to get
through an active day without feeling exhausted.

There are some body image issues attached to losing weight for me, which
I'm dealing with, and which I naturally don't expect you to sympathize
with. I'm still a little scared about being percieived as attractive. The
reactions I get from people, men especially, are already different, and it
takes some getting used to. I guess I'm scared that if I lose the rest of
the weight, it will get even worse. Once I get over that fear, I hope then
I'll be ready to start losing again.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

You're still fat. How much more motivation do you need?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That's exactly what I meant. Anyway, I've made a conscious decision to
just maintain my weight for now. I know what needs to be done to lose
more, I just don't currently want it badly enough to do it. I do badly
want to not gain anything back though, and so far so good with that plan.
Once I decide to make the final push, will you start kicking my ass again?

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

Perhaps there is still hope for Smick.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Wow, you're jumping on Smick for not quoting, yet I get by totally
> unscathed for eating carby foods. You don't love me anymore.
>
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Leran how to quote properly, idiot.
>>
>> --
>> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
>>
>>
>> "SMICK818" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>> > Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point?
>> > Like,
>> > he
>> > keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his bed
>> > everytime
>> > he's not looking?
>> >
>> > Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action
>> > short
>> > of
>> > moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking
>> > when I
>> > was
>> > living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor. Other
>> > than
>> > that, I
>> > think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.
>

Quoted message said:

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

If you really feel that you're thin enough, then why the angst?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't know, really. I'm thin enough that I'm not worried about an
imminent threat of obesity related diseases, I'm thin enough to feel
reasonably attractive, I'm thin enough to not have to shop in specialty
stores or the plus-sized section, and I'm in good enough shape to get
through an active day without feeling exhausted.

There are some body image issues attached to losing weight for me, which
I'm dealing with, and which I naturally don't expect you to sympathize
with. I'm still a little scared about being percieived as attractive.
The
reactions I get from people, men especially, are already different, and it
takes some getting used to. I guess I'm scared that if I lose the rest of
the weight, it will get even worse. Once I get over that fear, I hope
then
I'll be ready to start losing again.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

You're still fat. How much more motivation do you need?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

That's exactly what I meant. Anyway, I've made a conscious decision to
just maintain my weight for now. I know what needs to be done to lose
more, I just don't currently want it badly enough to do it. I do badly
want to not gain anything back though, and so far so good with that
plan.
Once I decide to make the final push, will you start kicking my ass
again?

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Perhaps there is still hope for Smick.
>
> --
> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
>
>
> "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > Wow, you're jumping on Smick for not quoting, yet I get by totally
> > unscathed for eating carby foods. You don't love me anymore.
> >
> > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >> Leran how to quote properly, idiot.
> >>
> >> --
> >> You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW
> >>
> >>
> >> "SMICK818" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email hidden]...
> >> > Can you talk to your dad and find some reasonable half-way point?
> >> > Like,
> >> > he
> >> > keeps the donuts out of the house and you don't short sheet his
> >> > bed
> >> > everytime
> >> > he's not looking?
> >> >
> >> > Seriously, talking it over with him is the only reasonable action
> >> > short
> >> > of
> >> > moving. I know what it's like. It was impossible to quit smoking
> >> > when I
> >> > was
> >> > living at home because my dad smoked with a religous fervor.
> >> > Other
> >> > than
> >> > that, I
> >> > think you'd just have to white-knuckle it.
> >
>

Quoted message said:

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Right now I think I look ok and I'm not dangerously overweight. I could
look even better and be even healthier if I lost some more weight.
When I was over 200 pounds, I was scared I was going to keep getting
bigger, I was scared I was going to get sick from it or die from it, and I
was tired all the time and disgusted with the way I looked. I've lost
enough that the fear and disgust are gone, but not so much that I feel like
I'm the best I can be. It looks like to get to goal I'll have to focus on
it more than I have been, strictly limit calories, go back to tracking
everything I eat, and spend more time working out. I was very motivated
and excited when I started losing weight. I knew it would change my life,
but not all the changes have been positive like I thought they would be,
and I'm still coming to terms with that.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

If you really feel that you're thin enough, then why the angst?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't know, really. I'm thin enough that I'm not worried about an
imminent threat of obesity related diseases, I'm thin enough to feel
reasonably attractive, I'm thin enough to not have to shop in specialty
stores or the plus-sized section, and I'm in good enough shape to get
through an active day without feeling exhausted.

There are some body image issues attached to losing weight for me, which
I'm dealing with, and which I naturally don't expect you to sympathize
with. I'm still a little scared about being percieived as attractive.
The
reactions I get from people, men especially, are already different, and it
takes some getting used to. I guess I'm scared that if I lose the rest of
the weight, it will get even worse. Once I get over that fear, I hope
then
I'll be ready to start losing again.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

You're still fat. How much more motivation do you need?

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

It's strange that you worry about it so much.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Right now I think I look ok and I'm not dangerously overweight. I could
look even better and be even healthier if I lost some more weight.
When I was over 200 pounds, I was scared I was going to keep getting
bigger, I was scared I was going to get sick from it or die from it, and I
was tired all the time and disgusted with the way I looked. I've lost
enough that the fear and disgust are gone, but not so much that I feel
like
I'm the best I can be. It looks like to get to goal I'll have to focus on
it more than I have been, strictly limit calories, go back to tracking
everything I eat, and spend more time working out. I was very motivated
and excited when I started losing weight. I knew it would change my life,
but not all the changes have been positive like I thought they would be,
and I'm still coming to terms with that.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

If you really feel that you're thin enough, then why the angst?

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't know, really. I'm thin enough that I'm not worried about an
imminent threat of obesity related diseases, I'm thin enough to feel
reasonably attractive, I'm thin enough to not have to shop in specialty
stores or the plus-sized section, and I'm in good enough shape to get
through an active day without feeling exhausted.

There are some body image issues attached to losing weight for me,
which
I'm dealing with, and which I naturally don't expect you to sympathize
with. I'm still a little scared about being percieived as attractive.
The
reactions I get from people, men especially, are already different, and
it
takes some getting used to. I guess I'm scared that if I lose the rest
of
the weight, it will get even worse. Once I get over that fear, I hope
then
I'll be ready to start losing again.

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> You're still fat. How much more motivation do you need?
>

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Am I worrying? I don't think so. I was earlier, before I figured out why
I was resistant to losing more weight. I thought, wrongly, that the
process "should" be continuous with no pauses, that I "should" be happier
being thinner, that I "should" want to be hot, sexy, whatever you want to
call it. Once I realized it's my individual process and I can do it
however I want, and that I don't have to want the things other people think
I should want, then I stopped worrying.
Even if I were worrying about it, it's not that strange. I'd bet more
women have body image issues than don't. And it's not uncommon for women
who were sexualized at an early age to have weight problems as a defense
against being looked at sexually.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JC Der Koenig said:

It's strange that you worry about it so much.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Right now I think I look ok and I'm not dangerously overweight. I could
look even better and be even healthier if I lost some more weight.
When I was over 200 pounds, I was scared I was going to keep getting
bigger, I was scared I was going to get sick from it or die from it, and I
was tired all the time and disgusted with the way I looked. I've lost
enough that the fear and disgust are gone, but not so much that I feel
like
I'm the best I can be. It looks like to get to goal I'll have to focus on
it more than I have been, strictly limit calories, go back to tracking
everything I eat, and spend more time working out. I was very motivated
and excited when I started losing weight. I knew it would change my life,
but not all the changes have been positive like I thought they would be,
and I'm still coming to terms with that.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Man. Here I was thinking that LC was easy, that I'd never want to go back
to eating the junk I used to eat, and all along I had no idea how big a
part my environment was playing. I live with my dad and he was doing LC
too for a while, but he stopped. Weight and food are kind of sensitive
subjects in our house, so I haven't asked him why he stopped, but I think
a
lot of it has to do with his working long hours, spending a lot of time
driving, and the convenience of being able to get a burger at a drive
through and eat it while driving, as opposed to getting a salad or a steak
or something else that you actually have to sit and eat with a knife and
fork. It's not an excuse of course, I think he could have stuck to LC
anyway, he just chose a more convenient route. As far as I can tell he
isn't gaining, and he is keeping the exercise up, so I'm not too worried
about him yet.

The problem for me is there are now temptations in my house that weren't
there before. Chips, donuts, candy, bread, cake, etc. It was a lot
easier
not to eat these things when they weren't around. I look back over the
past few weeks and realize I may be heading down a dangerous road with a
little nibble here and another little nibble there. I've not gone
overboard yet, but I have been dipping my toes in the water.

For example, we both had the day off, and we had a late breakfast of steak
and eggs. My dad had toast and asked if I wanted some, and I said no
thanks, but when he handed me half a slice I went ahead and used it to sop
up the remainder of my egg yolk and ate it. Later on he was eating a
donut
and I had a bite. Tonight my dinner was a vegetable stir-fry with
chicken,
and then about an hour later my dad made chicken salad and I had some on a
Ritz cracker. Half a slice of toast, a bite of a donut, and one Ritz
cracker are not exactly disaster, but if I keep doing this I know it will
turn into just a little more, then just a little more than that, and so on
until I'm right back where I was.

So basically I've discovered I am not immune to temptation, and I need to
be more disciplined and more vigilant.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

I think that (at least for me) that once I got so close to goal (actually at
goal now that I reflect on how I looked/felt) I missed that constant
reinforcement that came with losing weight on a consistent basis. I also got
cut off financially from BUYING clothes but I didn't need to stop going to
stores to try them on. I guess I need the constant reinforcement that I had
then. I have been staying at about the same weight since early fall so I
think I will be very careful and set a date for the INDUCTION phase again. I
have cut down to 3 oz cappaciono and 9 oz coffee for the day. I am thinking
Jan first that gives me 6-8 weeks before our cruise (unless Curt in on Chemo
and too sick to go, but we are planning on cruising somewhere warm in late
winter)
sucks doesn't it.

--
Lori
220/163/144
LC since 1/17/03
keeping it cool
Devoted wife of Curtis, Stage 4 Prostate cancer at age 40
http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

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Luna said:

Man. Here I was thinking that LC was easy, that I'd never want to go
back to eating the junk I used to eat, and all along I had no idea how
big a part my environment was playing. I live with my dad and he was
doing LC too for a while, but he stopped. Weight and food are kind of
sensitive subjects in our house, so I haven't asked him why he stopped,
but I think a lot of it has to do with his working long hours, spending a
lot of time driving, and the convenience of being able to get a burger at
a drive through and eat it while driving, as opposed to getting a salad
or a steak or something else that you actually have to sit and eat with a
knife and fork. It's not an excuse of course, I think he could have
stuck to LC anyway, he just chose a more convenient route. As far as I
can tell he isn't gaining, and he is keeping the exercise up, so I'm not
too worried about him yet.

The problem for me is there are now temptations in my house that weren't
there before. Chips, donuts, candy, bread, cake, etc. It was a lot
easier not to eat these things when they weren't around. I look back
over the past few weeks and realize I may be heading down a dangerous
road with a little nibble here and another little nibble there. I've not
gone overboard yet, but I have been dipping my toes in the water. For
example, we both had the day off, and we had a late breakfast of steak
and eggs. My dad had toast and asked if I wanted some, and I said no
thanks, but when he handed me half a slice I went ahead and used it to
sop up the remainder of my egg yolk and ate it. Later on he was eating a
donut and I had a bite. Tonight my dinner was a vegetable stir-fry with
chicken, and then about an hour later my dad made chicken salad and I had
some on a Ritz cracker. Half a slice of toast, a bite of a donut, and
one Ritz cracker are not exactly disaster, but if I keep doing this I
know it will turn into just a little more, then just a little more than
that, and so on until I'm right back where I was.

So basically I've discovered I am not immune to temptation, and I need to
be more disciplined and more vigilant.

Perhaps you need to ask your father not to "help" you break your eating
plan.

It isn't "Perhaps", you have to do it.

Intimate family can be so destructive because of the intimacy.

The "Junk Food" lying around is of a different sort of issue than your
father ACTIVELY putting the wrong foods into your hands, but it isn't all
that much different either.

Intimate family can be so destructive because of the intimacy.

Jim

--

You should try living in my house with DH and 2 sons. Candy, Pop, Ice Cream,
waffles, pancakes, donuts, potato chips and dip it goes on and on. and I am
the grocery shopper and they put this stuff on the list. the boys are very
active, eat a variety of foods, and are in great physical shape so they can
eat that stuff more frequently than some kids.
lori
outnumbered 4-1 (if you count the cat)