I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach ache I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me 3 days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home a sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
-- JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach ache I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me 3 days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home a sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
Yeah, I've given up on sugar alcohols for this reason.
Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good chance you have come out ahead.
"jk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach
ache
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I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me
3
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days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home
a
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sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
-- JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Cubit wrote: || Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that some || folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good chance you || have come out ahead.
How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean?
Cubit wrote: || Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that some || folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good chance you || have come out ahead.
How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean?
you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything you ate. not exactly rocket science.
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: || Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: || ||| Cubit wrote: ||||| Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that ||||| some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good ||||| chance you have come out ahead. ||| ||| How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean? || || you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything you || ate. not exactly rocket science.
er, are you saying this results in a net calorie deficit?
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: || Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: || ||| Cubit wrote: ||||| Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that ||||| some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good ||||| chance you have come out ahead. ||| ||| How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean? || || you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything you || ate. not exactly rocket science.
er, are you saying this results in a net calorie deficit?
did i appear to say that? i'm saying that's how the method is used, nothing more and nothing less. you can figure out the results of it for yourself - if you care to.
I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach ache I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me 3 days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home a sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
Sometimes one sugar alcohol will be well tolerated, while another might as well be ground glass with a sprinkle of nails for flavor. :-) Lactitol is my personal kryptonite. If it's anywhere on the label - regardless of how minor an ingredient - I have to avoid it. Looks like xylitol isn't your friend. That kind of stinks, since it's in a lot of the sugar free gums. If you like cheesecake, Myra's recipe is *good*, and you can use splenda instead. It's a little time-consuming, but worth it every once in a great while.
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: || Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: || ||| The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: ||||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: ||||| |||||| Cubit wrote: |||||||| Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that |||||||| some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good |||||||| chance you have come out ahead. |||||| |||||| How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean? ||||| ||||| you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything you ||||| ate. not exactly rocket science. ||| ||| er, are you saying this results in a net calorie deficit? || || did i appear to say that? i'm saying that's how the method is used, || nothing more and nothing less. you can figure out the results of it || for yourself - if you care to.
But that's the question I'm asking based on what Cubit wrote - which appears to imply that there is an 'upside' to SAs due to their laxative effect. The mere emptying of the bowel and fluid loss won't result in any fat loss. Also, as far as I know, you're not [censored] out what you ate as the result of taking a laxative (I've eaten enough SAs to know this first hand, too). What goes into the stomach still has to get processed by the body, though it is easy to see how sucking out liquids can interfere with nutritent absorption.
I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach ache I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me 3 days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home a sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
Sometimes one sugar alcohol will be well tolerated, while another might as well be ground glass with a sprinkle of nails for flavor. :-) Lactitol is my personal kryptonite. If it's anywhere on the label - regardless of how minor an ingredient - I have to avoid it. Looks like xylitol isn't your friend. That kind of stinks, since it's in a lot of the sugar free gums. If you like cheesecake, Myra's recipe is *good*, and you can use splenda instead. It's a little time-consuming, but worth it every once in a great while.
Take care, Carmen
It also freezes well (and it better, as it makes a lot). I made this a year or two ago.
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:47:32 GMT, jk <[email hidden]> wrote:
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I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach ache I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me 3 days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home a sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
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Yeah, I've given up on sugar alcohols for this reason.
Same here. Not worth the misery. I'm less sensitive to some than to others, but maltitol and sorbitol are particularly nasty.
Dan 325/199/180 Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution) Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: || Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: || ||| Cubit wrote: ||||| Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that ||||| some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good ||||| chance you have come out ahead. ||| ||| How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean? || || you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything you || ate. not exactly rocket science.
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er, are you saying this results in a net calorie deficit?
LOL! That's the bottom line.
Dan 325/199/180 Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution) Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes
But that's the question I'm asking based on what Cubit wrote - which
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to imply that there is an 'upside' to SAs due to their laxative effect.
The
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mere emptying of the bowel and fluid loss won't result in any fat loss. Also, as far as I know, you're not [censored] out what you ate as the result of taking a laxative (I've eaten enough SAs to know this first hand, too). What goes into the stomach still has to get processed by the body, though
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is easy to see how sucking out liquids can interfere with nutritent absorption.
That's why the "laxative method of weight loss" appeals only to idiots and morons who apparently think the body is just one long tube and everything they eat goes straight through instantly....
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: || Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: || ||| The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: ||||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: ||||| |||||| Cubit wrote: |||||||| Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that |||||||| some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good |||||||| chance you have come out ahead. |||||| |||||| How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean? ||||| ||||| you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything you ||||| ate. not exactly rocket science. ||| ||| er, are you saying this results in a net calorie deficit? || || did i appear to say that? i'm saying that's how the method is used, || nothing more and nothing less. you can figure out the results of it || for yourself - if you care to.
But that's the question I'm asking based on what Cubit wrote - which appears to imply that there is an 'upside' to SAs due to their laxative effect. The mere emptying of the bowel and fluid loss won't result in any fat loss. Also, as far as I know, you're not [censored] out what you ate as the result of taking a laxative (I've eaten enough SAs to know this first hand, too). What goes into the stomach still has to get processed by the body, though it is easy to see how sucking out liquids can interfere with nutritent absorption.
if it wasn't an effective purging technique, bulimics wouldn't be using it. they are, and they have for years. you may draw your own conclusions.
if it wasn't an effective purging technique, bulimics wouldn't be using it. they are, and they have for years. you may draw your own conclusions.
Bulimics also vomit--in fact, they use vomiting as their main way to get rid of food. They don't just try laxatives. And we all know that bulimics are the most scientifically astute people in the world. Draw your own conclusions.
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: || Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: || ||| The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: ||||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: ||||| |||||| The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: |||||||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: |||||||| ||||||||| Cubit wrote: ||||||||||| Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is ||||||||||| that some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a ||||||||||| good ||||||||||| chance you have come out ahead. ||||||||| ||||||||| How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean? |||||||| |||||||| you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything |||||||| you ate. not exactly rocket science. |||||| |||||| er, are you saying this results in a net calorie deficit? ||||| ||||| did i appear to say that? i'm saying that's how the method is ||||| used, nothing more and nothing less. you can figure out the ||||| results of it ||||| for yourself - if you care to. ||| ||| But that's the question I'm asking based on what Cubit wrote - ||| which appears to imply that there is an 'upside' to SAs due to ||| their laxative effect. The mere emptying of the bowel and fluid ||| loss won't result in any fat loss. Also, as far as I know, you're ||| not [censored] out what you ate as the result of taking a laxative ||| (I've eaten enough SAs to know this first hand, too). What goes ||| into the stomach still has to get processed by the body, though it ||| is easy to see how sucking out liquids can interfere with nutritent ||| absorption. || || if it wasn't an effective purging technique, bulimics wouldn't be || using || it. they are, and they have for years. you may draw your own || conclusions.
Perhaps that's just a misconception on their part thinking that they can rid their bodies of food via the use of laxiatives....some reading on the net indicates that laxatives aren't effective for fat loss. Also, if I'm not mistaken, bulimia is a disorder, so drawing conclusions from the behavor of bulimics about the effective use of laxatives doesn't seem so smart. Besides, I thought they barfed out food...
"jk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach
ache
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I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me
3
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days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home
a
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sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
-- JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
Boy, I can relate to that! Last night I was at a bar that served free pizza for the patrons who came in to watch the football game. I ate four slices of pizza. Kept me up all night with a king-size bellyache.
"Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Hi,
jk said:
I know I should know better but this past week was the worst stomach ache I've had in the 6 years doing LC. Almost an entire day and night. Took me 3 days to recover. Apparently I didn't read my labels, and ingested a few different products with Malitol all in the same day. Usually I can stand a decent dose of the stuff before I have problems, but my wife brought home a sugar free cheesecake. It had Xylitol, and I had a nice sized piece. The 2 together spelled doom! What an incredibly brutal night I had.
Sometimes one sugar alcohol will be well tolerated, while another might as well be ground glass with a sprinkle of nails for flavor. :-) Lactitol is my personal kryptonite. If it's anywhere on the label - regardless of how minor an ingredient - I have to avoid it. Looks like xylitol isn't your friend. That kind of stinks, since it's in a lot of the sugar free gums. If you like cheesecake, Myra's recipe is *good*, and you can use splenda instead. It's a little time-consuming, but worth it every once in a great while.
Take care, Carmen
I went out on a limb, and tried the cheesecake again. In my case it look like it's a cumulative effect rather than the one SA. I ate a deadly combo that night.
-- JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: || Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: ||| The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: ||||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: |||||| The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote: |||||||| Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote: ||||||||| Cubit wrote: ||||||||||| Sugar Alcohols sure do act like laxatives. The upside is that ||||||||||| some folks abuse laxatives to lose weight. There is a good ||||||||||| chance you have come out ahead. ||||||||| ||||||||| How does that work? Using laxatives to lose weight, I mean? |||||||| |||||||| you overeat, then take enough laxatives to [censored] out everything |||||||| you ate. not exactly rocket science. |||||| |||||| er, are you saying this results in a net calorie deficit? ||||| ||||| did i appear to say that? i'm saying that's how the method is used, ||||| nothing more and nothing less. you can figure out the results of it ||||| for yourself - if you care to. ||| ||| But that's the question I'm asking based on what Cubit wrote - ||| which appears to imply that there is an 'upside' to SAs due to ||| their laxative effect. The mere emptying of the bowel and fluid ||| loss won't result in any fat loss. Also, as far as I know, you're ||| not [censored] out what you ate as the result of taking a laxative ||| (I've eaten enough SAs to know this first hand, too). What goes ||| into the stomach still has to get processed by the body, though it ||| is easy to see how sucking out liquids can interfere with nutritent ||| absorption. || || if it wasn't an effective purging technique, bulimics wouldn't be || using it. they are, and they have for years. you may draw your own || conclusions.
Perhaps that's just a misconception on their part thinking that they can rid their bodies of food via the use of laxiatives....some reading on the net indicates that laxatives aren't effective for fat loss.
bulimics aren't necessarily concerned with "effective fat loss." they're concerned with *weight* loss, and i don't think it matters much whether it's fat or healthy muscle. you're trying to apply logic to an eating disorder - they don't really work that way.
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, bulimia is a disorder, so drawing conclusions from the behavor of bulimics about the effective use of laxatives doesn't seem so smart.
i never said that i personally thought it was effective or smart. i said that people do it. it's a fact. i'm not making any judgements or arguments as to the wisdom or effectiveness of it.
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Besides, I thought they barfed out food...
there are all kinds of ways to purge, including over-exercising. read up.
