What am I doing wrong?

Other folks on this NG will be able to help you specifically after reading
your FitDay menus...I just have my own experience to share. I started LCing
last summer and lost 20 pounds really quickly, without much exercise. Then
I stopped LCing for ten months after moving overseas - luckily, I didn't
gain those 20 lbs back during this time. I started again in June, but the
weight is not falling off my body like it was last year. I don't know why,
it just isn't.

In July, I started an exercise routine, and the scale is moving again. Not
nearly as quickly as last year, but it's happening. Measuring tape is
showing changes, too.

To sum up my experiences - 1. My second time LCing has not seen the
dramatic weight loss of my first time; and 2. This time, I have to devote
myself to exercise if I want to see any weight loss

Hope this helps
S t a c i
Female, 36, 5'11"
213/185/170
Started Atkins 8/03, with ten months off due to culture shock
Started again 6/04

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Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
time to introduce myself.

Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs

I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably happy
with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining that
weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
pounds started to creep back on :-(

So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about day
3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red wine.

I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
purple and I'm drinking plenty water.

I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and it
didn't make any difference.

I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.

Thanks in advance

Danlo

Thanks Staci,

It's almost like the low carb diet doesn't have the same "shock" factor on
the metabolism that it did the first time.

I go back to eating carbs and the body says "OK no problem back to burning
glucose" when i go lowcarb the body says "Hey no problem I can do ketones as
well"

I don't do much exercise (maybe i should, didn't have to the last time
though) apart from walking about at work.

Danlo

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Quoted message said:

Other folks on this NG will be able to help you specifically after reading
your FitDay menus...I just have my own experience to share. I started

LCing

Quoted message said:

last summer and lost 20 pounds really quickly, without much exercise.

Then

Quoted message said:

I stopped LCing for ten months after moving overseas - luckily, I didn't
gain those 20 lbs back during this time. I started again in June, but the
weight is not falling off my body like it was last year. I don't know

why,

Quoted message said:

it just isn't.

In July, I started an exercise routine, and the scale is moving again.

Not

Quoted message said:

nearly as quickly as last year, but it's happening. Measuring tape is
showing changes, too.

To sum up my experiences - 1. My second time LCing has not seen the
dramatic weight loss of my first time; and 2. This time, I have to devote
myself to exercise if I want to see any weight loss

Hope this helps
S t a c i
Female, 36, 5'11"
213/185/170
Started Atkins 8/03, with ten months off due to culture shock
Started again 6/04

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Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
time to introduce myself.

Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs

I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably happy
with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining that
weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
pounds started to creep back on :-(

So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about day
3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red wine.

I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
purple and I'm drinking plenty water.

I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and it
didn't make any difference.

I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.

Thanks in advance

Danlo

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Sorry I forgot to say, the fitday journal has only been completed between
21st Aug - 25th Aug

Danlo

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Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
time to introduce myself.

Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs

I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably happy
with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining that
weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
pounds started to creep back on :-(

So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about day
3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red wine.

I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
purple and I'm drinking plenty water.

I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and it
didn't make any difference.

I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.

Thanks in advance

Danlo

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I don't do much exercise (maybe i should, didn't have to the last time
though) apart from walking about at work.

Danlo

bingo!

Thanks for the reply.

Accoring to various sources I'm allready eating too little!! I'm only eating
on average 1700 calories per day. A man of my weight should be eating approx
2000 just to keep the basal metabolic processes running.

I've tried eating more, eating less and doing some excercise.

Any other ideas?

Danlo
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try eating a little less and exercising (like walking for 1 hour per
day).

i

In article said:

Sorry I forgot to say, the fitday journal has only been completed

between

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21st Aug - 25th Aug

Danlo

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Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
time to introduce myself.

Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs

I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably happy
with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining that
weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
pounds started to creep back on :-(

So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about day
3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red wine.

I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
purple and I'm drinking plenty water.

I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and it
didn't make any difference.

I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.

Thanks in advance

Danlo

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I've found that most of the time this "eat so many calories per pound"
theory is incorrect. It might be proper to calculate calorie consumption
based on your goal weight, but I found that if I eat even 8 calories per
pound of bodyweight, I will gain weight. I am currently eating about 7-8
calories per pound of my goal weight, and I am losing weight quite steadily.
If you eat the right foods, this is a lot of food to eat. Many days I am
even below this level without being hungry. Try to maintain about 3-5% of
your calories as carbs, 20% as protein, and the rest as fat. Too much
protein can also cause issues. I've lost about 55 pounds in 5 months doing
this, and this is without any regular exercise workout. Although, I have
been very physically active this summer. As fall approaches, I suspect I
will have to get back into my workout routine as time permits.

Chris

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Thanks for the reply.

Accoring to various sources I'm allready eating too little!! I'm only

eating

Quoted message said:

on average 1700 calories per day. A man of my weight should be eating

approx

Quoted message said:

2000 just to keep the basal metabolic processes running.

I've tried eating more, eating less and doing some excercise.

Any other ideas?

Danlo
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try eating a little less and exercising (like walking for 1 hour per
day).

i

In article said:

Sorry I forgot to say, the fitday journal has only been completed

between

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Quoted message said:

21st Aug - 25th Aug

Danlo

"Danlo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
> time to introduce myself.
>
> Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs
>
> I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
> having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably

happy

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Quoted message said:

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> with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining that
> weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
> pounds started to creep back on :-(
>
> So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
> months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
> and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about

day

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Quoted message said:

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> 3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
> had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red

wine.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
> as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
> purple and I'm drinking plenty water.
>
> I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
> packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
> fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).
>
>

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

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>
> As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
> although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and

it

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> didn't make any difference.
>
> I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Danlo

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Thanks Chris,

I'll try about 7 x bodyweight and see how that goes. That will have me
eating about 1500 calories per day.

To be quite honest this should be quite easy for me because I was really
having to force myself to eat even 1800 a day, I was literally forcing
myself to eat when I wasn't hungry just to keep the calories up to 1800 a
day. It just didn't fell right to me!!!

When I lost 40lbs a few years back I don't remember counting calories, I
just ate until I was full. That seemed to do the trick for me then but I
tried that this time for about 3 weeks and barely lost a pound (even on
induction).

Was considering doing the "Fat Fast" for a few days but I think I'll leave
that for a last resort.

Appreciate the advice.

Danlo

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I've found that most of the time this "eat so many calories per pound"
theory is incorrect. It might be proper to calculate calorie consumption
based on your goal weight, but I found that if I eat even 8 calories per
pound of bodyweight, I will gain weight. I am currently eating about 7-8
calories per pound of my goal weight, and I am losing weight quite
steadily.
If you eat the right foods, this is a lot of food to eat. Many days I am
even below this level without being hungry. Try to maintain about 3-5% of
your calories as carbs, 20% as protein, and the rest as fat. Too much
protein can also cause issues. I've lost about 55 pounds in 5 months doing
this, and this is without any regular exercise workout. Although, I have
been very physically active this summer. As fall approaches, I suspect I
will have to get back into my workout routine as time permits.

Chris

"Danlo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Thanks for the reply.

Accoring to various sources I'm allready eating too little!! I'm only

eating

Quoted message said:

on average 1700 calories per day. A man of my weight should be eating

approx

Quoted message said:

2000 just to keep the basal metabolic processes running.

I've tried eating more, eating less and doing some excercise.

Any other ideas?

Danlo
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try eating a little less and exercising (like walking for 1 hour per
day).

i

In article <[email hidden]>, Danlo wrote:
> Sorry I forgot to say, the fitday journal has only been completed

between

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> 21st Aug - 25th Aug
>
>
> Danlo
>
> "Danlo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
>> time to introduce myself.
>>
>> Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs
>>
>> I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
>> having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably

happy

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>> with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining
>> that
>> weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
>> pounds started to creep back on :-(
>>
>> So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
>> months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2
>> weeks
>> and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about

day

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> 3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
>> had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red

wine.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>
>> I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
>> as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
>> purple and I'm drinking plenty water.
>>
>> I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
>> packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
>> fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).
>>
>>

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

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>>
>> As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
>> although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and

it

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Quoted message said:

>> didn't make any difference.
>>
>> I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>> Danlo
>
>
>
>

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Danlo wrote:
:: Thanks Chris,
::
:: I'll try about 7 x bodyweight and see how that goes. That will have
:: me
:: eating about 1500 calories per day.

Good idea. The 10x rule doesn't work for many people. It is generally
considered a starting point, and if it doesn't produce result, you drop back
on number at a time, ie, 9x, 8x, etc. until you get results.

::
:: To be quite honest this should be quite easy for me because I was
:: really
:: having to force myself to eat even 1800 a day, I was literally
:: forcing
:: myself to eat when I wasn't hungry just to keep the calories up to
:: 1800 a
:: day. It just didn't fell right to me!!!
::
:: When I lost 40lbs a few years back I don't remember counting
:: calories, I
:: just ate until I was full. That seemed to do the trick for me then
:: but I
:: tried that this time for about 3 weeks and barely lost a pound (even
:: on
:: induction).
::
:: Was considering doing the "Fat Fast" for a few days but I think I'll
:: leave
:: that for a last resort.
::
:: Appreciate the advice.

What kind of exercise are you doing? Walking is fine, but if you really
want to kick things up a notch or two, consider some form of resistance
training - weight lifting at the gym would be the first best option, but
some weights at home or just some bodyweight movements would be a big help.
Do that in addition to walking.

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Hi Danlo, welcome to the group!

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So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about day
3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red wine.

I haven't been in the situation of straying for a long period of time and then
returning, so I don't have much to offer in that respect, and I lose very slowly
in ANY case. Have you been checked out by a doctor lately? It's possible you
have increased insulin resistance (Jenny knows WAY more about that than I do).
We also have someone here who had a sleep disorder that kept her from losing
weight for a VERY long time, but she started losing when she elevated the head of
her bed and subsequently slept more soundly. Also, exercising DOES make a
difference. When I exercise less overall (which has been the case for me over
the last 8 weeks due to some physical issues), I lose even MORE slowly.

--
Saffire
205/149/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Eat less and exercise more.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Hi everyone,

I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
time to introduce myself.

Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs

I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably happy
with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining that
weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
pounds started to creep back on :-(

So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about day
3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red wine.

I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
purple and I'm drinking plenty water.

I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and it
didn't make any difference.

I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.

Thanks in advance

Danlo

Eat less and exercise more.

Idiot.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Thanks for the reply.

Accoring to various sources I'm allready eating too little!! I'm only
eating
on average 1700 calories per day. A man of my weight should be eating
approx
2000 just to keep the basal metabolic processes running.

I've tried eating more, eating less and doing some excercise.

Any other ideas?

Danlo
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day).

i

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Sorry I forgot to say, the fitday journal has only been completed

between

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21st Aug - 25th Aug

Danlo

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> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been lurking in this group for a while now so I thought it was
> time to introduce myself.
>
> Im a 34 year old male 5'8" and currently weigh in at 214lbs
>
> I started Atkins about 3 years ago and had some considerable success
> having lost approximately 40 lbs over 8 months. I was reasonably happy
> with that loss and I balanced the diet so that I was maintaining that
> weight. Approximately a year ago I lost the path slightly and the
> pounds started to creep back on :-(
>
> So back to the present, I decided to go back on Induction about 2
> months ago weighing 216lbs. Stuck to induction rigorously for 2 weeks
> and I lost about 1 pound if I was lucky (was in ketosis from about day
> 3). Have increased the carbs slightly by adding more vegetables and
> had one slight blow out when I had a few too many glasses of red wine.
>
> I'm essentially sticking to the diet that I done a few years ago but
> as you can see I've only lost 2lbs in 2 months. Ketostix are still
> purple and I'm drinking plenty water.
>
> I'm starting to get really frustrated about this now and considering
> packing it in. I logged about a weeks worth of my typical diet in
> fitday (minus the wine, only done that once in 2 months).
>
>

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=danlo%5Fthe%5Fwild

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>
> As you can see I'm probably not eating my 10 x 214 calories per day
> although as an experiment I did eat about 2000 a day for 1 week and it
> didn't make any difference.
>
> I'd be really grateful for your expert advice on this.
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Danlo

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