Re: Workout question

I like to start a workout with short warmup of 50 pushups or so.

If you look at a two week cycle at three workouts per week, then there are
six total workouts per cycle. I like to start with 5 sets per exercise and
increase the sets by one each workout until the final workout of the cycle
is 10 sets. I then increase the weight a little and start at 5 sets again.

I prefer the standard stance for the deadlift, with my feet fairly close
together. I do a standing military press, hands just a little more than
shoulder-width apart, making sure that I don't use my legs at all to drive
the weight up.

As far as rest goes, I usually take a minute or two between sets. Sometimes
more if I'm feeling tired. I usually go with three reps per set. With
deadlifts, sometimes I drop down to singles. It depends.

It's not good to think in terms of whether or not it's enough work. Think in
terms of progress. You shouldn't finish your workout feeling like you don't
have anything left in the tank. It's better to feel like you've worked, but
that you could have done more. The most important thing though, is to see if
you are lifting progressively heavier weights.

At some point, if this all works out for you, the next thing to learn about
is wave loading.

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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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Just 2 lifts? Interesting. How many sets and how much rest do you
recommend, to make this enough work?

Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!

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Deadlifts and military presses, three times a week for less than an

hour.

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Lift for strength, as in keep your reps low and do several sets. Be
conservative in adding weight to your lifts. Be consistent.

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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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I have been low carbing for about a year now and have lost about 40
lbs. I am a 5'11" male and currently weigh 235 on a fairly large
frame. My goal is to lose another 50 lbs of fat through diet and
exercise, I think 185 is about right for me.

Here is my question. I am doing 30 mins of cardio (eliptical runner)
5 days a week. I am also doing some weight training, but I want to
make sure I am doing it right. My understanding is that gaining
muscle mass while losing fat and having a calorie deficit is
difficult.

What would be the best type of weight lifting regimen for me to add to
my cardio for the simple goal of losing weight and bodyfat? Adding
muscle size can wait until I am at my goal weight and add some
calories back in. What do you recommend?

BTW I work out alone, so I need to avoid anything that needs a spotter
=)

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Just 2 lifts? Interesting. How many sets and how much rest do you
recommend, to make this enough work?

Doesn't sound like much of a workout to me, at all. For instance, on
"leg day" (just an example of a sample workout) I do squats with a bar
, plié squats and step-ups power set, leg press, leg extensions,
hamsting curls (drop sets) and finish with dead lifts. Three sets of
each, 12-15 reps.

On chest/tricep day I'll do flies (either on my back, incline bench or
cable flies), bench press, pec deck, standard chest press (sitting
machine), cable pull-downs and skull crushers.

On back/bicep day I'll do assisted push-ups/overhead cable pull downs
power set, pull-downs, standing rows, and then a variety of bicep
stuff like hammer curls, cable curls, etc.

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Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!

The deadlifts that I do are the last things I do on my "leg day". I
put a couple of 25 pound weight plates on the floor and put my toes up
on the edge, so my heel is pointing down (gives a nice stretch to the
back of the legs after a hard workout). I hold a bar (45 lbs.,
currently) in front of me (straight arms, hanging down) and hinge
forward at the waist, keeping my back straight, bending over as far as
I can comfortably. Then, back to a standing position. 3 sets of 12-15
reps.

The military presses I do are with dumb bells, although many folks use
a bar. I sit on that little bench they have in the gym with the
straight back - I like the back support it provides. So, arms at 90°
to your body, and push the weights overhead to touch then back down,
never letting your elbows sag below 90°. Again, I try to squeeze out 3
sets of 12-15 reps.

I take two cardio-aerobic one-hour classes a week, and I do 20 minutes
on the elliptical trainer on my back day and my chest day (no cardio
on leg day - it would be too much). I always warm up with 5 minutes on
the elliptical before I hit the weights.

Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress.

Lee

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Deadlifts and military presses, three times a week for less than an hour.
Lift for strength, as in keep your reps low and do several sets. Be
conservative in adding weight to your lifts. Be consistent.

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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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I have been low carbing for about a year now and have lost about 40
lbs. I am a 5'11" male and currently weigh 235 on a fairly large
frame. My goal is to lose another 50 lbs of fat through diet and
exercise, I think 185 is about right for me.

Here is my question. I am doing 30 mins of cardio (eliptical runner)
5 days a week. I am also doing some weight training, but I want to
make sure I am doing it right. My understanding is that gaining
muscle mass while losing fat and having a calorie deficit is
difficult.

What would be the best type of weight lifting regimen for me to add to
my cardio for the simple goal of losing weight and bodyfat? Adding
muscle size can wait until I am at my goal weight and add some
calories back in. What do you recommend?

BTW I work out alone, so I need to avoid anything that needs a spotter
=)

Lee wrote:
:: [email hidden] (Dave Jones) wrote in message
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::: Just 2 lifts? Interesting. How many sets and how much rest do you
::: recommend, to make this enough work?
::
:: Doesn't sound like much of a workout to me, at all. For instance, on
:: "leg day" (just an example of a sample workout) I do squats with a
:: bar , plié squats and step-ups power set, leg press, leg extensions,
:: hamsting curls (drop sets) and finish with dead lifts. Three sets of
:: each, 12-15 reps.

Why do you need all of these movements? Doing deadlifts last tells a lot
about your workouts.

::
:: On chest/tricep day I'll do flies (either on my back, incline bench
:: or
:: cable flies), bench press, pec deck, standard chest press (sitting
:: machine), cable pull-downs and skull crushers.

Same comment...

::
:: On back/bicep day I'll do assisted push-ups/overhead cable pull downs
:: power set, pull-downs, standing rows, and then a variety of bicep
:: stuff like hammer curls, cable curls, etc.

Gosh. You like wasting time, don't you?

::
::: Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
::: and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
::: many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!
::
:: The deadlifts that I do are the last things I do on my "leg day".

heh. If you're doing them last, then likely you're not getting much benefit
from them, imo.

I
:: put a couple of 25 pound weight plates on the floor and put my toes
:: up
:: on the edge, so my heel is pointing down (gives a nice stretch to the
:: back of the legs after a hard workout). I hold a bar (45 lbs.,
:: currently) in front of me (straight arms, hanging down) and hinge
:: forward at the waist, keeping my back straight, bending over as far
:: as
:: I can comfortably. Then, back to a standing position. 3 sets of 12-15
:: reps.
::
:: The military presses I do are with dumb bells, although many folks
:: use
:: a bar. I sit on that little bench they have in the gym with the
:: straight back - I like the back support it provides. So, arms at 90°
:: to your body, and push the weights overhead to touch then back down,
:: never letting your elbows sag below 90°. Again, I try to squeeze out
:: 3
:: sets of 12-15 reps.
::
:: I take two cardio-aerobic one-hour classes a week, and I do 20
:: minutes
:: on the elliptical trainer on my back day and my chest day (no cardio
:: on leg day - it would be too much). I always warm up with 5 minutes
:: on
:: the elliptical before I hit the weights.
::
:: Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress.
::
:: Lee
::
::
:::
:::
:::
::: "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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:::: Deadlifts and military presses, three times a week for less than
:::: an hour. Lift for strength, as in keep your reps low and do
:::: several sets. Be conservative in adding weight to your lifts. Be
:::: consistent.
::::
::::
::::
:::: --
::::
:::: Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
::::
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:::: "Dave Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:::: news:[email hidden]...
::::: I have been low carbing for about a year now and have lost about
::::: 40 lbs. I am a 5'11" male and currently weigh 235 on a fairly
::::: large frame. My goal is to lose another 50 lbs of fat through
::::: diet and exercise, I think 185 is about right for me.
:::::
::::: Here is my question. I am doing 30 mins of cardio (eliptical
::::: runner) 5 days a week. I am also doing some weight training, but
::::: I want to make sure I am doing it right. My understanding is
::::: that gaining muscle mass while losing fat and having a calorie
::::: deficit is difficult.
:::::
::::: What would be the best type of weight lifting regimen for me to
::::: add to my cardio for the simple goal of losing weight and
::::: bodyfat? Adding muscle size can wait until I am at my goal
::::: weight and add some calories back in. What do you recommend?
:::::
::::: BTW I work out alone, so I need to avoid anything that needs a
::::: spotter =)

Let's see some examples of what this exercise regimen has done for your
body.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW

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Just 2 lifts? Interesting. How many sets and how much rest do you
recommend, to make this enough work?

Doesn't sound like much of a workout to me, at all. For instance, on
"leg day" (just an example of a sample workout) I do squats with a bar
, plié squats and step-ups power set, leg press, leg extensions,
hamsting curls (drop sets) and finish with dead lifts. Three sets of
each, 12-15 reps.

On chest/tricep day I'll do flies (either on my back, incline bench or
cable flies), bench press, pec deck, standard chest press (sitting
machine), cable pull-downs and skull crushers.

On back/bicep day I'll do assisted push-ups/overhead cable pull downs
power set, pull-downs, standing rows, and then a variety of bicep
stuff like hammer curls, cable curls, etc.

Quoted message said:

Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!

The deadlifts that I do are the last things I do on my "leg day". I
put a couple of 25 pound weight plates on the floor and put my toes up
on the edge, so my heel is pointing down (gives a nice stretch to the
back of the legs after a hard workout). I hold a bar (45 lbs.,
currently) in front of me (straight arms, hanging down) and hinge
forward at the waist, keeping my back straight, bending over as far as
I can comfortably. Then, back to a standing position. 3 sets of 12-15
reps.

The military presses I do are with dumb bells, although many folks use
a bar. I sit on that little bench they have in the gym with the
straight back - I like the back support it provides. So, arms at 90°
to your body, and push the weights overhead to touch then back down,
never letting your elbows sag below 90°. Again, I try to squeeze out 3
sets of 12-15 reps.

I take two cardio-aerobic one-hour classes a week, and I do 20 minutes
on the elliptical trainer on my back day and my chest day (no cardio
on leg day - it would be too much). I always warm up with 5 minutes on
the elliptical before I hit the weights.

Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress.

Lee

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Deadlifts and military presses, three times a week for less than an

hour.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Lift for strength, as in keep your reps low and do several sets. Be
conservative in adding weight to your lifts. Be consistent.

--

Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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"Dave Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I have been low carbing for about a year now and have lost about 40
> lbs. I am a 5'11" male and currently weigh 235 on a fairly large
> frame. My goal is to lose another 50 lbs of fat through diet and
> exercise, I think 185 is about right for me.
>
> Here is my question. I am doing 30 mins of cardio (eliptical

runner)

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> 5 days a week. I am also doing some weight training, but I want to
> make sure I am doing it right. My understanding is that gaining
> muscle mass while losing fat and having a calorie deficit is
> difficult.
>
> What would be the best type of weight lifting regimen for me to add

to

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Quoted message said:

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> my cardio for the simple goal of losing weight and bodyfat? Adding
> muscle size can wait until I am at my goal weight and add some
> calories back in. What do you recommend?
>
> BTW I work out alone, so I need to avoid anything that needs a

spotter

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> =)

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Let's see some examples of what this exercise regimen has done for your
body.

Want me to post a picture? Is that what you're asking? What is it that
you think this exercise regimen has "done" to my body?

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If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW

I'm a woman.

Lee

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Just 2 lifts? Interesting. How many sets and how much rest do you
recommend, to make this enough work?

Doesn't sound like much of a workout to me, at all. For instance, on
"leg day" (just an example of a sample workout) I do squats with a bar
, plié squats and step-ups power set, leg press, leg extensions,
hamsting curls (drop sets) and finish with dead lifts. Three sets of
each, 12-15 reps.

On chest/tricep day I'll do flies (either on my back, incline bench or
cable flies), bench press, pec deck, standard chest press (sitting
machine), cable pull-downs and skull crushers.

On back/bicep day I'll do assisted push-ups/overhead cable pull downs
power set, pull-downs, standing rows, and then a variety of bicep
stuff like hammer curls, cable curls, etc.

Quoted message said:

Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!

The deadlifts that I do are the last things I do on my "leg day". I
put a couple of 25 pound weight plates on the floor and put my toes up
on the edge, so my heel is pointing down (gives a nice stretch to the
back of the legs after a hard workout). I hold a bar (45 lbs.,
currently) in front of me (straight arms, hanging down) and hinge
forward at the waist, keeping my back straight, bending over as far as
I can comfortably. Then, back to a standing position. 3 sets of 12-15
reps.

The military presses I do are with dumb bells, although many folks use
a bar. I sit on that little bench they have in the gym with the
straight back - I like the back support it provides. So, arms at 90°
to your body, and push the weights overhead to touch then back down,
never letting your elbows sag below 90°. Again, I try to squeeze out 3
sets of 12-15 reps.

I take two cardio-aerobic one-hour classes a week, and I do 20 minutes
on the elliptical trainer on my back day and my chest day (no cardio
on leg day - it would be too much). I always warm up with 5 minutes on
the elliptical before I hit the weights.

Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress.

Lee

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> Deadlifts and military presses, three times a week for less than an

hour.

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> Lift for strength, as in keep your reps low and do several sets. Be
> conservative in adding weight to your lifts. Be consistent.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW
>
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> "Dave Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I have been low carbing for about a year now and have lost about 40
> > lbs. I am a 5'11" male and currently weigh 235 on a fairly large
> > frame. My goal is to lose another 50 lbs of fat through diet and
> > exercise, I think 185 is about right for me.
> >
> > Here is my question. I am doing 30 mins of cardio (eliptical

runner)

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> > 5 days a week. I am also doing some weight training, but I want to
> > make sure I am doing it right. My understanding is that gaining
> > muscle mass while losing fat and having a calorie deficit is
> > difficult.
> >
> > What would be the best type of weight lifting regimen for me to add

to

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> > my cardio for the simple goal of losing weight and bodyfat? Adding
> > muscle size can wait until I am at my goal weight and add some
> > calories back in. What do you recommend?
> >
> > BTW I work out alone, so I need to avoid anything that needs a

spotter

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> > =)

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Let's see some examples of what this exercise regimen has done for your
body.

Want me to post a picture? Is that what you're asking? What is it that
you think this exercise regimen has "done" to my body?

Yes, jpegs would be great. I doubt the regimen has done a whole lot for your
body, but I'll reserve judgement until after the jpegs, if they are promptly
forthcoming.

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If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this

guy's

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head. -- MFW

I'm a woman.

So you're already making excuses?

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Let's see some examples of what this exercise regimen has done for your
body.

Want me to post a picture? Is that what you're asking? What is it that
you think this exercise regimen has "done" to my body?

Yes, jpegs would be great.

Sorry...ain't gonna happen. I don't really see any need to prove my
success to you, of all people, with a picture. Your loss, too. I'm
doing what I'm doing for ME and so that I'm happy with how I look. I'm
happy. Period.

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I doubt the regimen has done a whole lot for your
body, but I'll reserve judgement until after the jpegs, if they are promptly
forthcoming.

I really don't care if you think my regimen has done anything for me
or not, nor do I care about your judgement and if you ever bestow it
upon me. Your opinions mean nothing.

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I'm a woman.

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So you're already making excuses?

Not at all. Just clarifying who I am - I'm not a guy. That's all.

Lee

So basically, you've gotten no results from your exercise regimen and yet
you want to spread that b.s. far and wide.

--
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> Let's see some examples of what this exercise regimen has done for

your

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> body.

Want me to post a picture? Is that what you're asking? What is it that
you think this exercise regimen has "done" to my body?

Yes, jpegs would be great.

Sorry...ain't gonna happen. I don't really see any need to prove my
success to you, of all people, with a picture. Your loss, too. I'm
doing what I'm doing for ME and so that I'm happy with how I look. I'm
happy. Period.

Quoted message said:

I doubt the regimen has done a whole lot for your
body, but I'll reserve judgement until after the jpegs, if they are

promptly

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forthcoming.

I really don't care if you think my regimen has done anything for me
or not, nor do I care about your judgement and if you ever bestow it
upon me. Your opinions mean nothing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm a woman.

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So you're already making excuses?

Not at all. Just clarifying who I am - I'm not a guy. That's all.

Lee

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So basically, you've gotten no results from your exercise regimen

Actually, I've gotten incredible results from my exercise regimen. I'm
happy to pose for my hubby, any time he wants. I see no reason to show
myself to complete strangers. In fact, the thought of it kind of
freaks me out. I really don't understand the mentality of a lot of
people here who show pictures of themselves. Looking in the mirror,
stepping on the scale, seeing how my clothes fit (or actually don't
fit any more - too big), that's all I need. I sure don't need
confirmation from a bunch of strangers that what I'm doing is working.

and yet

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you want to spread that b.s. far and wide.

Call it whatever you want. I never claimed to be an expert - all I did
was share my program. B.S. for you, magic for me.

This is usenet, where thoughts and ideas are shared openly by all
participants. I never said mine was the only or right way, it's MY WAY
and it's working. Doesn't make sense to you? Simply ignore me.

Lee

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> > Let's see some examples of what this exercise regimen has done for

your

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> > body.
>
> Want me to post a picture? Is that what you're asking? What is it that
> you think this exercise regimen has "done" to my body?
>

Yes, jpegs would be great.

Sorry...ain't gonna happen. I don't really see any need to prove my
success to you, of all people, with a picture. Your loss, too. I'm
doing what I'm doing for ME and so that I'm happy with how I look. I'm
happy. Period.

Quoted message said:

I doubt the regimen has done a whole lot for your
body, but I'll reserve judgement until after the jpegs, if they are

promptly

Quoted message said:

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forthcoming.

I really don't care if you think my regimen has done anything for me
or not, nor do I care about your judgement and if you ever bestow it
upon me. Your opinions mean nothing.

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> I'm a woman.

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So you're already making excuses?

Not at all. Just clarifying who I am - I'm not a guy. That's all.

Lee

On 13 Jul 2004 15:59:17 -0700, [email hidden] (Dave Jones)

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Just 2 lifts? Interesting. How many sets and how much rest do you
recommend, to make this enough work?

Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!

Starting out with a strength oriented weight training program like
this one os nuts for a beginner like yourself.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

(Lee) said:

Doesn't sound like much of a workout to me, at all. For instance, on
"leg day" (just an example of a sample workout) I do squats with a bar
, plié squats and step-ups power set, leg press, leg extensions,
hamsting curls (drop sets) and finish with dead lifts. Three sets of
each, 12-15 reps.

On chest/tricep day I'll do flies (either on my back, incline bench or
cable flies), bench press, pec deck, standard chest press (sitting
machine), cable pull-downs and skull crushers.

On back/bicep day I'll do assisted push-ups/overhead cable pull downs
power set, pull-downs, standing rows, and then a variety of bicep
stuff like hammer curls, cable curls, etc.

Tons of wasted time here; complete overkill.

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The deadlifts that I do are the last things I do on my "leg day". I
put a couple of 25 pound weight plates on the floor and put my toes up
on the edge,

Why in the world would you want to add a balance challenge to a
deadlift?

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I always warm up with 5 minutes on
the elliptical before I hit the weights.

Tell me, how much "warmer" did you get? What, exactly, is the purpose
of "warming up"?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

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:: Doesn't sound like much of a workout to me, at all. For instance, on
:: "leg day" (just an example of a sample workout) I do squats with a
:: bar , plié squats and step-ups power set, leg press, leg extensions,
:: hamsting curls (drop sets) and finish with dead lifts. Three sets of
:: each, 12-15 reps.

Roger Zoul said:

Why do you need all of these movements? Doing deadlifts last tells a lot
about your workouts.

Her personal trainer told her so, Zoul. It's gospel now. As to the DLs
that late, half on-off a plate, "nuff said.

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:: On chest/tricep day I'll do flies (either on my back, incline bench
:: or
:: cable flies), bench press, pec deck, standard chest press (sitting
:: machine), cable pull-downs and skull crushers.

Same comment...

Same answer.

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:: On back/bicep day I'll do assisted push-ups/overhead cable pull downs
:: power set, pull-downs, standing rows, and then a variety of bicep
:: stuff like hammer curls, cable curls, etc.

Gosh. You like wasting time, don't you?

By the bucketloads.

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::: Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
::: and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
::: many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!
::
:: The deadlifts that I do are the last things I do on my "leg day".

heh. If you're doing them last, then likely you're not getting much benefit
from them, imo.

Lee has already told us that their is near complete fatigue at the end
of the workout and NOW it is time to do DLs?

But then the PT took no medical history and is certified, I'll bet
you.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

(Lee) said:

I'm
doing what I'm doing for ME and so that I'm happy with how I look. I'm
happy. Period.

So is a pig in [censored]. Happy but still in [censored].
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

So basically, you've gotten no results from your b.s. exercise regimen.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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So basically, you've gotten no results from your exercise regimen

Actually, I've gotten incredible results from my exercise regimen. I'm
happy to pose for my hubby, any time he wants. I see no reason to show
myself to complete strangers. In fact, the thought of it kind of
freaks me out. I really don't understand the mentality of a lot of
people here who show pictures of themselves. Looking in the mirror,
stepping on the scale, seeing how my clothes fit (or actually don't
fit any more - too big), that's all I need. I sure don't need
confirmation from a bunch of strangers that what I'm doing is working.

and yet

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you want to spread that b.s. far and wide.

Call it whatever you want. I never claimed to be an expert - all I did
was share my program. B.S. for you, magic for me.

This is usenet, where thoughts and ideas are shared openly by all
participants. I never said mine was the only or right way, it's MY WAY
and it's working. Doesn't make sense to you? Simply ignore me.

Lee

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MFW

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> > > Let's see some examples of what this exercise regimen has done

for

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your

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> > > body.
> >
> > Want me to post a picture? Is that what you're asking? What is it

that

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> > you think this exercise regimen has "done" to my body?
> >
>
> Yes, jpegs would be great.

Sorry...ain't gonna happen. I don't really see any need to prove my
success to you, of all people, with a picture. Your loss, too. I'm
doing what I'm doing for ME and so that I'm happy with how I look. I'm
happy. Period.

>I doubt the regimen has done a whole lot for your
> body, but I'll reserve judgement until after the jpegs, if they are

promptly

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> forthcoming.

I really don't care if you think my regimen has done anything for me
or not, nor do I care about your judgement and if you ever bestow it
upon me. Your opinions mean nothing.

> > I'm a woman.

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> So you're already making excuses?

Not at all. Just clarifying who I am - I'm not a guy. That's all.

Lee

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On 13 Jul 2004 15:59:17 -0700, [email hidden] (Dave Jones)

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Just 2 lifts? Interesting. How many sets and how much rest do you
recommend, to make this enough work?

Also, could you point me to some examples of the kinds of deadlifts
and military presses you mean? I did a search and found there were
many kinds of both 🙂 Thanks!

Starting out with a strength oriented weight training program like
this one os nuts for a beginner like yourself.

If it doesn't kill him, it will make him stronger.