Remind me...

the black rose wrote:
|| .... never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile ride.
||

Wow....you must be new to exercise, huh? Big meals and exercise don't work
together.

|| Especially remind me never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25
|| mile ride with a big hill one block AFTER the restaurant stop.

What did you eat? When I ride, I don't think in terms of "lunch" or regular
meals. It's small frequent feedings along the way.

||
|| It was only my second club ride, and the first one with a lunch stop
|| in the middle, so I wasn't really thinking about how much I ate.

Did they call it a lunch stop as opposed to a rest stop? What the the rest
of them eat? Was the stop just around lunch time? Curious.

||
|| I made it up the hill, but I was seeing spots by the time I got to
|| the top. I'm pretty sure that if I had any coronary artery disease,
|| I would have had a heart attack right then and there. My old
|| carcass needed to decide whether to give blood to my gut to digest
|| my lunch, or to the rest of me to get up the hill. Lunch won.
||
|| I think I hit 100% VO2max long enough to really blow the gunk out of
|| every disused corner of my lungs. I was coughing it up the rest of
|| the ride.
||
|| Lesson learned, hehe.

Hmm....newbie. Of course, 25 miles ain't that far, so maybe that's why they
were doing lunch. But I don't even like to get on my bike if I'm even near
feeling full.

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the black rose said:

.... never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile ride.

Especially remind me never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile
ride with a big hill one block AFTER the restaurant stop.

It was only my second club ride, and the first one with a lunch stop in
the middle, so I wasn't really thinking about how much I ate.

I made it up the hill, but I was seeing spots by the time I got to the
top. I'm pretty sure that if I had any coronary artery disease, I would
have had a heart attack right then and there. My old carcass needed to
decide whether to give blood to my gut to digest my lunch, or to the
rest of me to get up the hill. Lunch won.

I think I hit 100% VO2max long enough to really blow the gunk out of
every disused corner of my lungs. I was coughing it up the rest of the
ride.

Lesson learned, hehe.

-km

I have no problems with biking right after eating a big meal. I often
stop for Taco Bell on the way home from work but that's only 12 miles.
Plus it's pretty flat with only a few modest hills so I don't have to
work too hard.

Seriously though, I find that I sometimes have to [censored] shortly after
eating. That bothers me when faced with a longish bike ride. But there
seems to be something about riding or perhaps exercise in general that
shuts down both that and the need to pee. I very rarely have to do
those while on even a longer ride, like the 43 mile 5 borough tour
here in NYC or one of the group rides. There must be something that
shifts the body into a pee/[censored] conservation mode.

"the black rose" (clip) My old carcass needed to decide whether to give
blood to my gut to digest my lunch, or to the rest of me to get up the
hill.(clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^
When I was a kid, my mother used to tell me things like that--but then, she
used to tell me a lot of stuff I didn't believe. Now, sixty years later you
come along and confirm that she wasn't so dumb after all.

Bert L.am said:

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Very funny.

-km

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Roger Zoul said:

the black rose wrote:
|| Lesson learned, hehe.

Hmm....newbie.

Well, yeah. I never claimed otherwise.

-km

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the black rose wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: the black rose wrote:
::::: Lesson learned, hehe.
:::
::: Hmm....newbie.
::
:: Well, yeah. I never claimed otherwise.
::

no, and you are not alone, either.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:13:25 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

the black rose wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: the black rose wrote:
::::: Lesson learned, hehe.
:::
::: Hmm....newbie.
::
:: Well, yeah. I never claimed otherwise.
::

no, and you are not alone, either.

What I'm wondering is why we glossed over the fact that this is km's second
club ride. Way to go! Which group did you ride with, and how was the rest
of the ride?

We want all the details, leave nothing out! ;-D

-B

Badger_South wrote:
:: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:13:25 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: the black rose wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: the black rose wrote:
:::::::: Lesson learned, hehe.
::::::
:::::: Hmm....newbie.
:::::
::::: Well, yeah. I never claimed otherwise.
:::::
:::
::: no, and you are not alone, either.
:::
::
:: What I'm wondering is why we glossed over the fact that this is km's
:: second club ride. Way to go! Which group did you ride with, and how
:: was the rest of the ride?

That's a good point. i've never been on a club ride. I wonder if km was
able to keep up, as that seemed to be a concern before, as I recall.

::
:: We want all the details, leave nothing out! ;-D
::
:: -B

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:10:14 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Badger_South wrote:
:: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:13:25 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
:: <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: the black rose wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: the black rose wrote:
:::::::: Lesson learned, hehe.
::::::
:::::: Hmm....newbie.
:::::
::::: Well, yeah. I never claimed otherwise.
:::::
:::
::: no, and you are not alone, either.
:::
::
:: What I'm wondering is why we glossed over the fact that this is km's
:: second club ride. Way to go! Which group did you ride with, and how
:: was the rest of the ride?

That's a good point. i've never been on a club ride. I wonder if km was
able to keep up, as that seemed to be a concern before, as I recall.

Well of course she kept up, she ate lunch with them, eh? On most club rides
(other than A rides), someone will help the new riders acclimate. It's no
big deal. Hell, even the struggle is fun to read about, b/c there's nothing
like a challenge, even if too tough today, there's always tomorrow!

-B

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::
:: We want all the details, leave nothing out! ;-D
::

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the black rose said:

.... never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile ride.

Especially remind me never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile
ride with a big hill one block AFTER the restaurant stop.

It was only my second club ride, and the first one with a lunch stop in
the middle, so I wasn't really thinking about how much I ate.

I made it up the hill, but I was seeing spots by the time I got to the
top. I'm pretty sure that if I had any coronary artery disease, I would
have had a heart attack right then and there. My old carcass needed to
decide whether to give blood to my gut to digest my lunch, or to the
rest of me to get up the hill. Lunch won.

I think I hit 100% VO2max long enough to really blow the gunk out of
every disused corner of my lungs. I was coughing it up the rest of the
ride.

Lesson learned, hehe.

-km

I have no problems with biking right after eating a big meal. I often
stop for Taco Bell on the way home from work but that's only 12 miles.
Plus it's pretty flat with only a few modest hills so I don't have to
work too hard.

Seriously though, I find that I sometimes have to [censored] shortly after
eating. That bothers me when faced with a longish bike ride. But there
seems to be something about riding or perhaps exercise in general that
shuts down both that and the need to pee. I very rarely have to do
those while on even a longer ride, like the 43 mile 5 borough tour
here in NYC or one of the group rides. There must be something that
shifts the body into a pee/[censored] conservation mode.

More information than I needed to know :-)

Badger_South said:

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:10:14 -0400, "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

That's a good point. i've never been on a club ride. I wonder if km was
able to keep up, as that seemed to be a concern before, as I recall.

Well of course she kept up, she ate lunch with them, eh? On most club rides
(other than A rides), someone will help the new riders acclimate. It's no
big deal. Hell, even the struggle is fun to read about, b/c there's nothing
like a challenge, even if too tough today, there's always tomorrow!

Yep, I kept up, but it was a "Stop and Smell the Flowers" ride, so that
was no great accomplishment. My main goal on the second ride was just
to meet new people and re-meet the ones I met on the first ride (an 18
mile "Stop and Smell the Flowers"😉. I did ride with the front group on
the way back (also not a great accomplishment).

I went on a third ride today, it's a group of C-riders that rides
regularly on Tuesdays. Now THEM, I'm very pleased to say I was able to
keep up.

It was pretty cold, in the low 40's, so I piled on layers, with my
BRIGHT pink windbreaker on top of it all, and I was just warm enough,
but not enough to sweat much. The ride started at 10am and it was
cloudy and windy as well as cold. It was a 30 mile ride -- I've done a
couple 30 mile rides with my family, so I know I can ride that far
without trouble, I just didn't know how fast I could take it.

About 10 miles into the ride, the sun came out, which made it a little
warmer and lot prettier -- the fall color is about at its peak right
now. The first 15 miles of the ride, I kept with the "pack" because I
didn't want to over-exert myself. When we stopped for lunch -- I ate
more sparingly. *grin*

The second half of the ride, I rode with the "breakaway" group and only
the couple on the tandem got back to the starting point ahead of me. I
was really pleased with how well I did.

Riding 55 miles in 2 days was a bit much for me -- my shoulders hurt and
my butt is filing a complaint against me -- but other than that, except
for being tired, I feel great.

-km

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Fred Hall said:

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the black rose said:

.... never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile ride.

Especially remind me never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25

mile

Quoted message said:

ride with a big hill one block AFTER the restaurant stop.

It was only my second club ride, and the first one with a lunch stop in
the middle, so I wasn't really thinking about how much I ate.

I made it up the hill, but I was seeing spots by the time I got to the
top. I'm pretty sure that if I had any coronary artery disease, I

would

Quoted message said:

have had a heart attack right then and there. My old carcass needed to
decide whether to give blood to my gut to digest my lunch, or to the
rest of me to get up the hill. Lunch won.

I think I hit 100% VO2max long enough to really blow the gunk out of
every disused corner of my lungs. I was coughing it up the rest of the
ride.

Lesson learned, hehe.

-km

I have no problems with biking right after eating a big meal. I often
stop for Taco Bell on the way home from work but that's only 12 miles.
Plus it's pretty flat with only a few modest hills so I don't have to
work too hard.

Seriously though, I find that I sometimes have to [censored] shortly after
eating. That bothers me when faced with a longish bike ride. But there
seems to be something about riding or perhaps exercise in general that
shuts down both that and the need to pee. I very rarely have to do
those while on even a longer ride, like the 43 mile 5 borough tour
here in NYC or one of the group rides. There must be something that
shifts the body into a pee/[censored] conservation mode.

More information than I needed to know :-)

Yeah, I know, nobody likes to discuss body functions here, but the same
thing happens to me. I have been out on 9 hour rides, sweating like crazy,
drinking up to 2 gallons of fluids (or more) and still not had to take
a leak until after I got home and wound down. It seems like the kidneys
get a lower priority level during a workout situation since so much gunk
is being sweated out by other means. I had one experience with the other
, um, function, this summer since there was an orchard that I passed and
took some liberties with the fruit by the side of the road. I filled my
pockets with what I thought were immature and smallish plums and munched
on them during my trek up into the outback reaches of the mountains I go
to to seek peace and quiet. Right about then I learned that the 'Plums'
were really Prunes and when eaten in large quantity they put ex-lax to
shame.
Very inconvenient, no leaves, just foxtails and a creek. No audience
thankfully, but I damn near exploded trying to hold back the inevitable.
Mom was right about them things and my wife laughed her ass off.

As for eating a large meal, for me it is breakfast, or lunch now that it
is getting cold but it takes me 45 minutes to get the ten miles to the
hills, so digestion may be well on its way by then. It seems to fuel me
up for the climbs.
Bill Baka

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the black rose said:

The second half of the ride, I rode with the "breakaway" group and only
the couple on the tandem got back to the starting point ahead of me. I
was really pleased with how well I did.

Riding 55 miles in 2 days was a bit much for me -- my shoulders hurt and
my butt is filing a complaint against me -- but other than that, except
for being tired, I feel great.

-km

Wow, that's great. Proud of ya, kiddo. Rode with the breakaway
group...neat-o.

Why not treat yourself to one o' them professional massages?

-B

dgk said:

the black rose said:

.... never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile ride.

Especially remind me never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile
ride with a big hill one block AFTER the restaurant stop.

It was only my second club ride, and the first one with a lunch stop in
the middle, so I wasn't really thinking about how much I ate.

I made it up the hill, but I was seeing spots by the time I got to the
top. I'm pretty sure that if I had any coronary artery disease, I would
have had a heart attack right then and there. My old carcass needed to
decide whether to give blood to my gut to digest my lunch, or to the
rest of me to get up the hill. Lunch won.

I think I hit 100% VO2max long enough to really blow the gunk out of
every disused corner of my lungs. I was coughing it up the rest of the
ride.

Lesson learned, hehe.

-km

I have no problems with biking right after eating a big meal. I often
stop for Taco Bell on the way home from work but that's only 12 miles.
Plus it's pretty flat with only a few modest hills so I don't have to
work too hard.

<snip>

I ride my bike to neighboring communites in the evenings to sample the
cuisine there. I don't ride for that long, and its not a problem. I
often enjoy a few beers with my meal too. Bicycling is a fun hobby
for me and not a profession.

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But there
seems to be something about riding or perhaps exercise in general that
shuts down both that and the need to pee.

At the risk of TMI, I'll note it's the opposite for me. I need something
like a camelbak in reverse -- something that I can periodically dribble out
into without having to break stride on the bike. Otherwise, I'm hopping off
the bike every hour and finding a clump of bushes to squat behind, hoping
I'll miss my shoes. You men don't know how good you have it...

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In article <[email hidden]>, the black rose
says...
my shoulders hurt and

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my butt is filing a complaint against me -- but other than that, except
for being tired, I feel great.

-km

How you feel the next day is sometimes the most rewarding part of a ride.

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.... never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile ride.

Especially remind me never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile
ride with a big hill one block AFTER the restaurant stop.

Evanston Illinois bike club motto: Ride to eat, eat to ride.

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:59:50 GMT, the black rose
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>.... never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25 mile ride.
>
>Especially remind me never to eat a big lunch in the middle of a 25
mile
>ride with a big hill one block AFTER the restaurant stop.
>
>It was only my second club ride, and the first one with a lunch stop

in

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>the middle, so I wasn't really thinking about how much I ate.
>
>I made it up the hill, but I was seeing spots by the time I got to the
>top. I'm pretty sure that if I had any coronary artery disease, I
would
>have had a heart attack right then and there. My old carcass needed

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>decide whether to give blood to my gut to digest my lunch, or to the
>rest of me to get up the hill. Lunch won.
>
>I think I hit 100% VO2max long enough to really blow the gunk out of
>every disused corner of my lungs. I was coughing it up the rest of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>ride.
>
>Lesson learned, hehe.
>
>-km

I have no problems with biking right after eating a big meal. I often
stop for Taco Bell on the way home from work but that's only 12 miles.
Plus it's pretty flat with only a few modest hills so I don't have to
work too hard.

Seriously though, I find that I sometimes have to [censored] shortly after
eating. That bothers me when faced with a longish bike ride. But there
seems to be something about riding or perhaps exercise in general that
shuts down both that and the need to pee. I very rarely have to do
those while on even a longer ride, like the 43 mile 5 borough tour
here in NYC or one of the group rides. There must be something that
shifts the body into a pee/[censored] conservation mode.

More information than I needed to know :-)

Yeah, I know, nobody likes to discuss body functions here, but the same
thing happens to me. I have been out on 9 hour rides, sweating like crazy,
drinking up to 2 gallons of fluids (or more) and still not had to take
a leak until after I got home and wound down. It seems like the kidneys
get a lower priority level during a workout situation since so much gunk
is being sweated out by other means. I had one experience with the other
, um, function, this summer since there was an orchard that I passed and
took some liberties with the fruit by the side of the road. I filled my
pockets with what I thought were immature and smallish plums and munched
on them during my trek up into the outback reaches of the mountains I go
to to seek peace and quiet. Right about then I learned that the 'Plums'
were really Prunes and when eaten in large quantity they put ex-lax to
shame.
Very inconvenient, no leaves, just foxtails and a creek. No audience
thankfully, but I damn near exploded trying to hold back the inevitable.
Mom was right about them things and my wife laughed her ass off.

It's amazing how some foods can work their way through the system so
fast...pushing stuff that's been in there for a day or more along the
"express route" right along with it. So...since there were no leaves...did
you come home without socks or was the creek water your bidet that day? :-)