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Where is everyone?

I think a lot of them got run off by the trolls.

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Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with

sprouts,

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guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Add about 7 or so frozen strawberries, 1/2-3/4 cup frozen
blueberries, one frozen sliced banana, and a little milk (or
soy milk) into a blender and whir.

Mmmm, purple heaven. 🙂

Great for 4th of July stuff if you're in the U.S. Red, Blue,
and off-white.

-Rubystars

William Hershman said:

Where is everyone?

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with sprouts,
guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Half a chicken broiled with celery salt, 2-3 potatoes in
a micro-wave, raw broccoli with Ranch dressing.

William Hershman said:

Where is everyone?

Holiday weekend, plus there's the usual attrition due to
warmer weather.

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Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with sprouts,
guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.

Sounds good. They're also good like that with a bit of
refried beans (pintos, black, or small reds) or hummus.

<...

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Where is everyone?

up to my eyeballs in term papers and exams! no time for
these time-consuming 'troll-wars' for the time being!

Quoted message said:

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with

sprouts,

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guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes.

hmmm...i like to peel & break up a couple of bananas, keep
em' in the freezer overnight, then put em' in the blender
with about a tablespoon of udo's ultimate oil blend, and
just enough original or vanilla flavoured soymilk that when
you blend it all up, it comes out the consistency of frozen
yogurt. tastes just like it too, to me. mmm...healthy banana
frozen yogurt. super yummy.

ps, had a good food experiment. i usually make burgers
(using a marinated & fried slab o' tofu, or sometimes an
yves patty) in multigrain pocket pitas instead of buns
(since they tend to hold their toppings better, and i find
em' yummier and healthier than nasty squished white bread
buns), and a few days ago i tried adding a whole bag of
steamed young spinach to the pita (split into two, one per
half w/1/2 yves patty per half) with the regular
tomato/mustard/vegenaise/ketchup (but no pickes, cause
that would just be a little off, i think), and man, it was
so good! just made my burger contraption heavenly! spinach
is good in everything, it seems. if only it were easier to
grow - last summer i tried it, but the plants bolted like
mad. anyone know how to not have them do that?

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Take care, Bill H

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"William Hershman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<VKFdc.111185$JO3.78846@attbi_s04>...

Quoted message said:

Where is everyone?

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with sprouts,
guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Sounds yummy.

Make a fruit jell sometime.

Use 8 oz applejuice brought to a simmer. Do not bring
to a boil.

Stir in 1/2 to 3/4 tsp of agar-agar powder.

In 2 desert dishes sprinkle raisins, and a few raspberries
or cut strawberries.

Pour the applejuice over the berries and let stand until
most of the heat is out and then refrigerate.

You may have to experiment a bit to get the agar-agar
applejuice ratio right.

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Where is everyone?

Still lurking about. I haven't had any good recipes to post
lately. I've been wondering where MrFalafel went.

Lorraine

Rubystars said:

"William Hershman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Where is everyone?

I think a lot of them got run off by the trolls.

Quoted message said:

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with

sprouts,

Quoted message said:

guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Add about 7 or so frozen strawberries, 1/2-3/4 cup frozen
blueberries, one frozen sliced banana, and a little milk
(or soy milk)

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life,
people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat. That
would be 750 meals if each included 3/4 pound of meat.
From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of
dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery,
and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one meal of soy or rice based product
is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of
meals derived from grass raised cattle. Grass raised
cattle products contribute to less wildlife deaths, better
wildlife habitat, and better lives for cattle than soy or
rice products. ·

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into a blender and whir.

Mmmm, purple heaven. 🙂

Great for 4th of July stuff if you're in the U.S. Red,
Blue, and off-white.

-Rubystars

Davey said:

Quoted message said:

Where is everyone?

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with sprouts,
guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Half a chicken broiled with celery salt, 2-3 potatoes
in a micro-wave, raw broccoli with Ranch dressing.

You eat a whole half chicken? Is this per meal or per day?

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Where is everyone?

Still lurking about. I haven't had any good recipes to
post lately. I've been wondering where MrFalafel went.

Lorraine

I think he got fed up with the people who were telling him
he was violating copyrights by posting recipes.

-Rubystars

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:42:44 GMT, "Rubystars"
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"William Hershman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Where is everyone?

I think a lot of them got run off by the trolls.

Quoted message said:

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a
great snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with

sprouts,

Quoted message said:

guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Add about 7 or so frozen strawberries, 1/2-3/4 cup frozen
blueberries,

one

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frozen sliced banana, and a little milk (or soy milk)

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass
raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his
life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable
meat. That would be 750 meals if each included 3/4 pound
of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get
thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of
farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the
flooding and draining of fields, one meal of soy or rice
based product is likely to involve more animal deaths
than hundreds of meals derived from grass raised cattle.
Grass raised cattle products contribute to less wildlife
deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for
cattle than soy or rice products. ·

Well now that you've mentioned it, a big juicy steak would
go good with that shake.

-Rubystars

usual suspect said:

Davey said:

Quoted message said:

Where is everyone?

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with sprouts,
guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Half a chicken broiled with celery salt, 2-3 potatoes
in a micro-wave, raw broccoli with Ranch dressing.

You eat a whole half chicken? Is this per meal or per day?

I buy as close to a 4 pound chicken as I can get,
quarter it, eat the leg, thigh and wing, and however
much of the breast I feel like eating. After it cooks
down and the bones and skin are gone, there's probably
about 3/4 pound of meat left, and I don't finish all of
that. Usually do that about 3 times a week, so I
contribute to the life and death of about 1.5 chickens
per week. If they live six weeks, that's 9 weeks of life
for chickens per week, so it's....uhh....(getting out
the calculator)...wow, 468 weeks of chicken life per
year, and that's only with dinner. Now I'm not saying I
am responsible for them, since they would live and die
anyway even if I was dead, or a veg*n, but I do
contribute to them. What kind of lives do they have? I
do wonder what each particular bird's life is like, and
hope they had a good one. 4 pounds is pretty small,
since they usually weigh from about 4.5-6 imo, but I
don't believe they usually get very aggressive with each
other in only 6 weeks...they are still too young. Their
parents do live long enough to become aggresive, and no
doubt some of them suffer as a result, but at least they
are in open houses like the broilers themselves, and not
cooped in battery cages.

Oh yeah, Heck....I forgot to say that I really hope the
wheat was tortured before they made the tortillas out of it.
Stripped away from its loving family and jammed into a
crowded grain truck...you know, the whole bit. It's so much
more gratifying to know that.

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 02:42:44 GMT, "Rubystars"
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"William Hershman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Where is everyone?

I think a lot of them got run off by the trolls.

Quoted message said:

Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a
great snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with

sprouts,

Quoted message said:

guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
recipes. Take care, Bill H

Add about 7 or so frozen strawberries, 1/2-3/4 cup frozen
blueberries,

one

Quoted message said:

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frozen sliced banana, and a little milk (or soy milk)

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass
raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his
life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable
meat. That would be 750 meals if each included 3/4 pound
of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get
thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of
farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the
flooding and draining of fields, one meal of soy or rice
based product is likely to involve more animal deaths
than hundreds of meals derived from grass raised cattle.
Grass raised cattle products contribute to less wildlife
deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for
cattle than soy or rice products. ·

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into a blender and whir.

Mmmm, purple heaven. 🙂

Great for 4th of July stuff if you're in the U.S. Red,
Blue, and

off-white.

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-Rubystars

Rubystars wrote: <...>

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Where is everyone?

Still lurking about. I haven't had any good recipes to
post lately. I've been wondering where MrFalafel went.

I think he got fed up with the people who were telling him
he was violating copyrights by posting recipes.

Copyright violation is very serious, Rubystars, and carries
some pretty harsh penalties.

The principal criminal statute protecting copyrighted
works is 17 U.S.C. §
506(a), which provides that "[a]ny person who infringes a
copyright willfully and for purposes of commercial
advantage or private financial gain" shall be punished
as provided in 18 U.S.C. § 2319. Section 2319
provides, in pertinent part, that a 5-year felony
shall apply if the offense "consists of the
reproduction or distribution, during any 180-day
period, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, of 1 or
more copyrighted works, with a retail value of more
than $2,500." 18 U.S.C. § 2319(b)(1).

The 1992 amendments to section 2319 have made it
possible to pursue felony level sanctions for
violations relating to all types of copyrighted works,
including computer software and other works written,
stored or transmitted in a digital format, if the
other elements of the statute are satisfied. Felony
penalties only attach to violations of a victim's
rights of reproduction or distribution in the quantity
stated. A misdemeanor shall apply if the defendant
does not meet the numerical and monetary thresholds,
or if the defendant is involved in the infringement of
the other rights bestowed upon the copyright holder,
including the right to prepare derivative works, or
the right to publicly perform a copyrighted work. htt-
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itle9/crm01847.htm#1847

See also: usdoj.govfoia reading roomOpen ↗
/usam/title9/71mcrm.htm

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Where is everyone?

Still lurking about. I haven't had any good recipes to
post lately.

I've

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been wondering where MrFalafel went.

Lorraine

I think he got fed up with the people who were telling
him he was

violating

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copyrights by posting recipes.

-Rubystars

Oh, that's a shame. :o( He posted more recipes than
anybody else.

Lorraine

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"William Hershman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Where is everyone?

I think a lot of them got run off by the trolls.

> Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a
> great snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with
sprouts,
> guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread
> the [censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice
> water. Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-
> time recipes. Take care, Bill H

Add about 7 or so frozen strawberries, 1/2-3/4 cup
frozen blueberries,

one

Quoted message said:

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frozen sliced banana, and a little milk (or soy milk)

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass
raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his
life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable
meat. That would be 750 meals if each included 3/4
pound of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get
thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of
farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice
the flooding and draining of fields, one meal of soy or
rice based product is likely to involve more animal
deaths than hundreds of meals derived from grass raised
cattle. Grass raised cattle products contribute to less
wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better
lives for cattle than soy or rice products. ·

Well now that you've mentioned it, a big juicy steak would
go good with that shake.

-Rubystars

I'll bet. And if you eat a grass raised steak, it's
likely to involve less animal deaths than the shake too,
and less than any bread you might have along with it as
well. I wonder about things like fruit, and tomatoes,
and potatoes. I believe we can be pretty sure that grain
products involve much more than grass raised beef--rice
especially--but wonder about the other things....

Davey said:

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>Where is everyone?
>
>Well, I guess I'll break the ice. Tonight I have a great
>snack planned. Whole wheat tortillas with sprouts,
>guacamole, cucumbers, spinach, and tomatoes. Spread the
>[censored] out, roll em up, wash em down with some ice water.
>Spring is here, and it's time to post some spring-time
>recipes. Take care, Bill H

Half a chicken broiled with celery salt, 2-3 potatoes
in a micro-wave, raw broccoli with Ranch dressing.

You eat a whole half chicken? Is this per meal or per day?

I buy as close to a 4 pound chicken as I can get,
quarter it, eat the leg, thigh and wing, and however
much of the breast I feel like eating. After it cooks
down and the bones and skin are gone, there's probably
about 3/4 pound of meat left, and I don't finish all
of that.

I was interested in your gluttony, not your strange
digression about "chicken weeks." Chicken bones don't weigh
that much. You're eating a pound of meat per meal.

William Hershman said:

Oh yeah, Heck....I forgot to say that I really hope the
wheat was tortured before they made the tortillas out of
it. Stripped away from its loving family and jammed into a
crowded grain truck...you know, the whole bit. It's so much
more gratifying to know that.

Why?

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"William Hershman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Where is everyone?

Still lurking about. I haven't had any good recipes to
post lately.

I've

Quoted message said:

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been wondering where MrFalafel went.

Lorraine

I think he got fed up with the people who were telling
him he was

violating

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copyrights by posting recipes.

-Rubystars

Oh, that's a shame. :o( He posted more recipes than
anybody else.

Lorraine

Yeah but think of it this way, you can always do a search
for his name on google and bring up all his old posts.

-Rubystars

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"William Hershman" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Where is everyone?

Still lurking about. I haven't had any good recipes to
post lately.

I've

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

been wondering where MrFalafel went.

Lorraine

I think he got fed up with the people who were telling
him he was

violating

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copyrights by posting recipes.

-Rubystars

Oh, that's a shame. :o( He posted more recipes than
anybody else.

Lorraine

Go to "veggies unite". They probably have more recipes
archaived than any other site.