Zipp Speed verbiage

Jobst,

After 30 years in the ad agency business, I can tell you that there is a specific copywriting
topical gel that is used. We shower the staff writers before every client meeting and the marketing
concepts just flow from them like warm Bullshot. The Zipp copy is really wonderful. Why do you feel
so compelled to illuminate the retail riff-raff anyway? Come on man, we have an entire industry to
protect! Shape up and cash in.

The Teflon self-lubricating retainers secrete a proprietary speed generating liquid that is
impregnated at the factory. That is a well established industry fact. In Europe, all of the pro team
mechanics are very aware of the value of what they call "speed glands." When properly fitted and
adjusted, wheels develop a lot more deliverable momentum which translates into winning sprints and
superior time trial results. Here they are simply called Teflon self-lubricating retainers. It is
the very same product.

By the way, using caged bearings prevents ball crash which can spare your hubs tremendous damage in
decents. It is one of the things that made the Yugo the automotive phenomenon that it was.

One of the new tests for lubrication in the future will be the Barium extreme pressure test. Guess
where they are going to put the supply tube...

Creative marketing is one of the things that keeps the customers coming into the shops and calling
the 800 numbers. The bike industry is not in the greatest shape right now. I think it is the job of
all recognized authorities to find ways to find ways to validate the claims of manufacturers. What
good is science without the creative process to make it understandable to the common consumer? After
all, the higher the bearing precision, the faster you will go.

Best Regards,

Bruce

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Jobst Brandt [email hidden] Palo Alto CA

According to Zipp Speed Wheels:

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As a hub is critical to a wheel, so the bearings become the most important aspect of all wheel
performance. We have focused significant effort to designing and specifying exactly the bearing
we deem necessary to perfectly compliment a Zipp wheel. In the cycling industry, the standard
for each ball variance is 50 millionths of an inch.

I'd like to see some measurements that show what effect these bearings accomplish over cup and
cone bearings of old. The principal difference will be the viscosity of oil used.

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Zipp bearings are manufactured in precision matched sets to an ISO ball tolerance or less than
10 millionths of an inch in total variance in size or sphericity. To realize maximum performance
and longevity from such precision, each bearing set is fitted to a custom Teflon self
lubricating retainer that significantly reduces friction over steel or brass retainers used in
cartridge bearings. The balls are placed between precision races in a Teflon retaining ring and
surrounded by a custom formulation of Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon based grease made in Europe and
used exclusively in the industry by Zipp.

Cages definitley cause more drag than the grade of bearing balls used in any reasonably good hubs.
Without a cage balls touch at a single point with a tiny meniscus of oil. A cage, in contrast, has
at least a ring contact and a meniscus along the entire area of proximity. As cage material, metal
is better because it can have less ball contact.

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The precision polished races allow Zipp to use double contact seals on both sides of each
bearing. What this means to you is a wheel that spins smoothly with minimal effort and will
continue to perform at this level for a long time to come.

Oops!!! Contact seals have more drag than any ball bearing, even with cage. The trick is to use
labyrinth seals (no contact) but that takes more design skill to include in a hub... and an
understanding of labyrinth seals.

"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon" Who writes this stuff anyway?

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"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon" Who writes this stuff anyway?

IsoFlex is a trade name. Barium is the soap. "Exclusive in the industry" means that it's usually
used for machine tool spindles and not for bikes.

Chalo Colina

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Originally posted by Chalo

B said:

"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon" Who writes this stuff anyway?

IsoFlex is a trade name. Barium is the soap. "Exclusive in the industry" means that it's usually
used for machine tool spindles and not for bikes.

Chalo Colina [/B]

Zipp is well-known among bike shop circles as a marketing company first and a bike product company second. Never trust any of their product literature.

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"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon"

Sounds like a lubricant for a flex sigmoidoscopy.

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"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon"

Sounds like a lubricant for a flex sigmoidoscopy.

and from what I hear, flexible sigmoidoscopy ain't too flexible

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"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon"

Sounds like a lubricant for a flex sigmoidoscopy.

Spoken like a true heavy drinker 🙂

Bill "upper G.I. over lower any day" S.

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"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon" Who writes this stuff anyway?

Daannnngggg... here I thought I was visiting the rec.bicycles.tech newsgroup. Instead it turns out
I'm reading Dilbert.

Jeff

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Subject: Re: Zipp Speed verbiage From: Tim McNamara [email hidden] Date: Mon, Aug 11,
2003 10:33 PM

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"Isoflex barium-hydrocarbon"

Sounds like a lubricant for a flex sigmoidoscopy.

ROTFLOL!

PH