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  1. I don't know much about this system. Is the QR20 worth considering if I do some road, mostly trails
    and 'aggressive' XC stuff. Maybe a touch of freeriding on occasion? I'd need new hubs, wouldn't I?
    Is it more marketing hype? If I was hypothetically looking at a Z1FR fork would it be worth getting
    the standard dropouts or the QR20?
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

  2. Westie said:

    I don't know much about this system. Is the QR20 worth considering if I do some road, mostly
    trails and 'aggressive' XC stuff. Maybe a touch of freeriding on occasion? I'd need new hubs,
    wouldn't I? Is it more marketing hype? If I was hypothetically looking at a Z1FR fork would it be
    worth getting the standard dropouts or the QR20?

    Pros: Stiffer fork, better tracking, safer. Cons: Heavier, more annoying to remove the wheel,
    normally need new hub.

    --
    a.m-b FAQ: j-harris.netambfaq.htm

    b.bmx FAQ: t-online.debmx faq.htm

  3. "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know much about this system. Is the QR20 worth considering if I do some road, mostly
    trails and 'aggressive' XC stuff. Maybe a touch of freeriding on occasion?

    Seems like overkill, but no one knows your riding style as well as you. It is, at the very least, a
    very stout setup.

    Quoted message said:

    I'd need new hubs, wouldn't I?

    Yes, but everyone from A.C. to White Industries is making 20mm through-Axle hubs.

    Quoted message said:

    Is it more marketing hype?

    Possibly, but you don't have to worry about a QR comming loose because of disc input. The Marzocchi
    set up is the "Anti-Quick Realease."

    Quoted message said:

    If I was hypothetically looking at a Z1FR fork would it be worth getting the standard dropouts or
    the QR20?

    If your not going to go all the way ... why go at all.

    R

  4. "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know much about this system. Is the QR20 worth considering if I do some road, mostly
    trails and 'aggressive' XC stuff. Maybe a touch of freeriding on occasion? I'd need new hubs,
    wouldn't I? Is it more marketing hype? If I was hypothetically looking at a Z1FR fork would it be
    worth getting the standard dropouts or the QR20?

    Part of the argument for QR20 is the issue with disk brakes and front wheel separation. If it's
    real, then this system would reduce it's likelihood.

    (Search rec.bicycles.tech on "disk brakes" and James Annan" for more opinion than you can shake a
    stick at.)

    Yes, a new hub. Just the front, methinks. If the info you read scares you, go QR20. If it doesn't,
    standard DO. For my part, both bikes have disk brakes on the front with standard DOs and QRs
    (Shimano hubs and QRs, which supposedly are high quality for the task of disk-brake-equipped forks.)

    Good luck.
    --
    Jonesy

  5. "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Westie said:

    I don't know much about this system. Is the QR20 worth considering if I


    do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some road, mostly trails and 'aggressive' XC stuff. Maybe a touch of freeriding on occasion? I'd
    need new hubs, wouldn't I? Is it more marketing hype? If I was hypothetically looking at a Z1FR


    fork

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would it be worth getting the standard dropouts or the QR20?

    Pros: Stiffer fork, better tracking, safer. Cons: Heavier, more annoying to remove the wheel,
    normally need new hub.

    --
    a.m-b FAQ: j-harris.netambfaq.htm

    a.bmx FAQ: t-online.debmx faq.htm


    You forgot to mention a "Fork-Up is needed to transport on a normal bike rack. I only use qr-20
    forks now. Greater stiffness. Better tracking. Just like you said.

    TJ

  6. "Jonesy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I don't know much about this system. Is the QR20 worth considering if I


    do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some road, mostly trails and 'aggressive' XC stuff. Maybe a touch of freeriding on occasion? I'd
    need new hubs, wouldn't I? Is it more marketing hype? If I was hypothetically looking at a Z1FR


    fork

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would it be worth getting the standard dropouts or the QR20?

    Part of the argument for QR20 is the issue with disk brakes and front wheel separation. If it's
    real, then this system would reduce it's likelihood.

    (Search rec.bicycles.tech on "disk brakes" and James Annan" for more opinion than you can shake a
    stick at.)

    Yes, a new hub. Just the front, methinks. If the info you read scares you, go QR20. If it
    doesn't, standard DO. For my part, both bikes have disk brakes on the front with standard DOs
    and QRs (Shimano hubs and QRs, which supposedly are high quality for the task of disk-brake-
    equipped forks.)

    Good luck.

    Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm fairly well versed in the disc brake/QR mayhem debate. I've got
    new Crossmax wheelset on the ride in question so I'm going to discard the idea of the QR20 for the
    time being. I simply don't want to 'fork' out (haha) for a new hub. That solves the issue of the QR.
    --
    Westie (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo' when replying.)

  7. "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jonesy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I don't know much about this system. Is the QR20 worth considering if I


    do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some road, mostly trails and 'aggressive' XC stuff. Maybe a touch of freeriding on occasion?
    I'd need new hubs, wouldn't I? Is it more marketing hype? If I was hypothetically looking at a
    Z1FR


    fork

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would it be worth getting the standard dropouts or the QR20?

    Part of the argument for QR20 is the issue with disk brakes and front wheel separation. If it's
    real, then this system would reduce it's likelihood.

    (Search rec.bicycles.tech on "disk brakes" and James Annan" for more opinion than you can shake
    a stick at.)

    Yes, a new hub. Just the front, methinks. If the info you read scares you, go QR20. If it
    doesn't, standard DO. For my part, both bikes have disk brakes on the front with standard DOs
    and QRs (Shimano hubs and QRs, which supposedly are high quality for the task of disk-brake-
    equipped forks.)

    Good luck.

    Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm fairly well versed in the disc brake/QR mayhem debate. I've
    got new Crossmax wheelset on the ride in question so I'm going to discard the idea of the QR20
    for the time being. I simply don't want to 'fork' out (haha) for a new hub. That solves the issue
    of the QR.

    Agggg! Crossmax? For light freeride? I wouldn't.
    --
    Jonesy

  8. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm fairly well versed in the disc brake/QR mayhem debate. I've
    got new Crossmax wheelset on the ride in question so I'm going to discard the idea of the QR20
    for the time being. I simply don't want to 'fork' out (haha) for a new hub. That solves the
    issue of the QR.

    Agggg! Crossmax? For light freeride? I wouldn't.
    --
    Jonesy

    A QR20 Crossmax would be a conversation starter though. Complete strangers would come up to you and
    say things like "WTF are you doing, barney?"
    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-online.comramsays-online.com

  9. "Chris Phillipo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    A QR20 Crossmax would be a conversation starter though. Complete strangers would come up to you
    and say things like "WTF are you doing, barney?"

    Thanks Chris :-P Like I said, I didn't know much about that QR20system. Now that you've put it that
    way, perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned the 'freeriding' word at all. My bad.
    --
    Westie Looks like Barney Rubble, but tries to avoid being one ;-) (Replace 'invalid' with 'yahoo'
    when replying.)

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