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  1. From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
    channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
    have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will be
    of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th victory in
    a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very modest.
    Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he has a
    excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious
    man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!

    Svend

  2. Svend P. said:


    From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
    channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
    have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will
    be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th
    victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very
    modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he
    has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very
    cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!

    Svend

    Thank you, but 9:30am isn't night in the Eastern time zone, though 4:30am for mountain stages on the
    west coast is for early risers. On the bright side, many of them will see the end before work or a
    morning ride.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Thank you, but 9:30am isn't night in the Eastern time zone, though 4:30am for mountain stages on
    the west coast is for early risers. On the bright side, many of them will see the end before work
    or a morning ride.

    Yup .... I come home from work at 8:30am so it's perfect for me !!

    jw milwaukee

  4. Svend P. said:

    From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
    channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
    have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will
    be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th
    victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very
    modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he
    has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very
    cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!

    Svend

    What do you mean? I live in Europe and they happen to be riding at the same time I am. This means I
    have to give up my own training to watch the tour. Naahh I'd much rather have it in the middle of
    the night when nothing else is happening. Having rushed home to catch the prolouge starting in about
    45 minutes.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

  5. "Svend P." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de


    France

    Quoted message said:

    every day on several channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you
    Americans and Canadians who have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy
    nights. This year I think will be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong
    will try to achieve his 5th victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit,
    very confident - and very modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and
    Tour de Romandie), and he has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis
    (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out
    for Tyler Hamilton!

    Svend

    Ah Svend, I'll be watching Tyler in the mornings here on the East Coast but I think that you'll be
    disappointed in his overall result. Now if his DS, Bjarne "Mr. 60%" Riis could get Tyler's
    hematocrit up to Riis' 1996 level, Tyler would have a much more interesting race. Tyler has had an
    excellent season, but I don't think he's going to be competitive for gc in the Tour. If I were going
    to bet against Armstong, I put my money on Ulrich. Hope springs eternal.

  6. sven-<< From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on
    several channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and
    Canadians who have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights >><BR><BR>

    Actually the LeTour comes on here in CO at 7;30 in the AM, also three other times.

    Don't feel sorry for us, feel sorry that we had to endure 30 minute, once per week Tour updates with
    the likes of Karsten and Possey...that was punishment!!

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  7. Per Elmsäter said:

    What do you mean? I live in Europe and they happen to be riding at the same time I am. This means I
    have to give up my own training to watch the tour. Naahh I'd much rather have it in the middle of
    the night when nothing else is happening. Having rushed home to catch the prolouge starting in
    about 45 minutes.

    They do not sell VCRs in Norway?

  8. Davide Tosi said:


    Per Elmsäter said:

    What do you mean? I live in Europe and they happen to be riding at the same time I am. This means
    I have to give up my own training to watch the tour. Naahh I'd much rather have it in the middle
    of the night when nothing else is happening. Having rushed home to catch the prolouge starting in
    about 45 minutes.

    They do not sell VCRs in Norway?

    no doubt, i tape every stage. for one thing, i can't stand the constant repeat of the same 4
    advertisements every 12 minutes. i'm still traumatized by the "run-a-way shoes.com" ad from a couple
    years back.

    h

  9. It's worse than that for me ... I've got about 90 channels but they're all garbage, so I didn't
    realize until today that Cox cable had switched out OLN, sometime during the last year with TCM
    which plays worthless old black and white movies. Turner is bad ... very, very bad.

    And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink outfit like OLN. All CBS would
    have to do, for instance, is divert what they're flushing on the likes of Dan Rather--I could get
    that my watching reruns of propaganda from Pravda.

    I guess I'll have to follow the race on the web and buy the 10 hours of CDs. I'm not going to up my
    cable subscription just to get at least 20 days out of 360 of interesting TV a year.

    "Svend P." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de


    France

    Quoted message said:

    every day on several channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you
    Americans and Canadians who have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy
    nights. This year I think will be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong
    will try to achieve his 5th victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit,
    very confident - and very modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and
    Tour de Romandie), and he has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis
    (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out
    for Tyler Hamilton!

    Svend

  10. In article wxCNa.119526$hd6.57934@fed1read05 said:

    It's worse than that for me ... I've got about 90 channels but they're all garbage, so I didn't
    realize until today that Cox cable had switched out OLN, sometime during the last year with TCM
    which plays worthless old black and white movies. Turner is bad ... very, very bad.

    And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink outfit like OLN. All CBS
    would have to do, for instance, is divert what they're flushing on the likes of Dan Rather--I
    could get that my watching reruns of propaganda from Pravda.

    I guess I'll have to follow the race on the web and buy the 10 hours of CDs. I'm not going to up
    my cable subscription just to get at least 20 days out of 360 of interesting TV a year.

    So you're not counting live daily coverage of the Vuelta, Giro and 30-60 minute recaps of all the WC
    races? Don't like Cox cable? Get a dish.

    -WG

  11. "urhome" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wxCNa.119526$hd6.57934@fed1read05...

    Quoted message said:

    And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink


    outfit

    Quoted message said:

    like OLN.

    Huh? As if ABC, NBC, or CBS would give us 2-1/2 hours of live coverage daily. You're off man. Thank
    goodness OLN outbid the networks!

    As Warren already suggested, get a dish.

  12. He wants it for free.

    "RoyG" <royg at nospam> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "urhome" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wxCNa.119526$hd6.57934@fed1read05...

    Quoted message said:

    And so is ABC, CBS and NBC for not being able to outbid a rinky-dink


    outfit

    Quoted message said:

    like OLN.

    Huh? As if ABC, NBC, or CBS would give us 2-1/2 hours of live coverage daily. You're off man.
    Thank goodness OLN outbid the networks!

    As Warren already suggested, get a dish.

  13. If you think that our Tour coverage is bad - we can't even get a decent Danish beer here in
    the states.

    "Svend P." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de


    France

    Quoted message said:

    every day on several channels all afternoon (and the mountain


    stages: all

    Quoted message said:

    day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who have to sit up during


    the

    Quoted message said:

    night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will be of special interest for
    you, not only


    because

    Quoted message said:

    Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th victory in a row, but


    also

    Quoted message said:

    because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and


    very

    Quoted message said:

    modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Tour de Romandie), and he has a excellent team to back him up. His


    manager

    Quoted message said:

    Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very cautious man, but


    even he

    Quoted message said:

    is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!

    Svend

  14. David Ryan said:
    Svend P. said:

    From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
    channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
    have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights. This year I think will
    be of special interest for you, not only because Lance Armstrong will try to achieve his 5th
    victory in a row, but also because Tyler Hamilton is looking very fit, very confident - and very
    modest. Hamilton has had a good spring (won the Liège-Bastogne-Liège and Tour de Romandie), and he
    has a excellent team to back him up. His manager Bjarne Riis (Tour-winner 1996) is usually a very
    cautious man, but even he is more than optimistic. Look out for Tyler Hamilton!

    Svend

    Thank you, but 9:30am isn't night in the Eastern time zone, though 4:30am for mountain stages on
    the west coast is for early risers. On the bright side, many of them will see the end before work
    or a morning ride.

    don't forget prime time reruns...

  15. "Svend P." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    From today the danes - and I think all europeans - can watch Tour de France every day on several
    channels all afternoon (and the mountain stages: all day). I pity you Americans and Canadians who
    have to sit up during the night, but I wish you all a lot of happy nights.

    ...and what's worse is we're not Padan.

  16. I am not offended by your remarks about Bjarne Riis - I don't even like him, the arrogant [censored].
    In retrospect it seems like they all were "on someting" those days. However, it was a mighty fine
    race i 1996 when Riis broke the boring and always defensive Indurain's ownership to the TdF. (For
    the record: Riis won TdF-stages in 1993, 1994, 1996 - finished 5 in TdF 1994, 3 in 1995)

    About Tyler Hamilton: I think he is better thank you tink - time will show. Here is another view:
    "Put together a former Tour de France winner with a highly astonishing cycle-philosophy and some
    very untraditional training methods and put him in the manager seat, then add a former lieutenant of
    the Current "Tour King" and one of the major animators so far this season, with victories in
    Liege-Bastogne-Liege and the Tour Of Romandie, sum it up with a young Spanish climber with enough
    potential to become a major GC threat in any Grand Tour himself over the next couple of years to
    come, add in a homogeneous group of loyal domestiques willing to sacrifice any chance of their own,
    to be at complete service for the designated team leaders, and then you have the secret ingredients
    for success in the worlds biggest cycle event?" from
    dailypeloton.comdisplayarticle.asp

    About Ullrich: I like him too. I hope he will win. I don't think he can. My money is on Armstrong,
    and if he is breakable at all, I rather think Simoni, Beloki or Hamilton could do it.

    Have a nice Tour.

    Svend

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ah Svend, I'll be watching Tyler in the mornings here on the East Coast


    but

    Quoted message said:

    I think that you'll be disappointed in his overall result. Now if his DS, Bjarne "Mr. 60%" Riis
    could get Tyler's hematocrit up to Riis' 1996


    level,

    Quoted message said:

    Tyler would have a much more interesting race. Tyler has had an excellent season, but I don't
    think he's going to be competitive for gc in the Tour. If I were going to bet against Armstong, I
    put my money on Ulrich. Hope springs eternal.

  17. "Svend P." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    About Tyler Hamilton: I think he is better thank you tink - time will


    show.

    Quoted message said:

    Here is another view: "Put together a former Tour de France winner with a highly astonishing
    cycle-philosophy and some very untraditional training methods and put him


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the manager seat, then add a former lieutenant of the Current "Tour King" and one of the major
    animators so far this season, with victories in Liege-Bastogne-Liege and the Tour Of Romandie,
    sum it up with a young Spanish climber with enough potential to become a major GC threat in
    any Grand Tour himself over the next couple of years to come, add in a homogeneous group of
    loyal domestiques willing to sacrifice any chance of their own, to be at complete service for
    the designated team leaders, and then you have the secret ingredients for success in the
    worlds biggest


    cycle

    Quoted message said:

    event?" from dailypeloton.comdisplayarticle.asp

    I tink not. We'll soon see.

    Quoted message said:


    About Ullrich: I like him too. I hope he will win. I don't think he can.


    My

    Quoted message said:

    money is on Armstrong, and if he is breakable at all, I rather think


    Simoni,

    Quoted message said:

    Beloki or Hamilton could do it.

    Have a nice Tour.

    I think Ullrich looks mighty good. I'll go out on a limb and say that Armstong's chances to win this
    year are 50/50. I have my doubt about Simoni in the last week. He was pretty waisted by the last 5
    days of the Giro.

    It will be a lovely Tour! Enjoy.

  18. B. Lafferty said:

    I think Ullrich looks mighty good. I'll go out on a limb and say that Armstong's chances to win
    this year are 50/50. I have my doubt about Simoni in the last week. He was pretty waisted by the
    last 5 days of the Giro.

    It will be a lovely Tour! Enjoy.

    I'd go further than that.

    I wouldn't mind betting that all roads lead to the Alamo for Davey Crockett this year.

    And the Malia Gialla in Parigi?

    Bianco-Celeste methinks.

  19. I would be nice seeing Gimondi with a real TdF champion.

    "inconnu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    I think Ullrich looks mighty good. I'll go out on a limb and say that Armstong's chances to win
    this year are 50/50. I have my doubt about


    Simoni

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in the last week. He was pretty waisted by the last 5 days of the Giro.

    It will be a lovely Tour! Enjoy.

    I'd go further than that.

    I wouldn't mind betting that all roads lead to the Alamo for Davey Crockett this year.

    And the Malia Gialla in Parigi?

    Bianco-Celeste methinks.

  20. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    If you think that our Tour coverage is bad - we can't even get a decent Danish beer here in
    the states.

    you can't get a decent danish beer in denmark!

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