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  1. Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was the show about two very large
    women who decided that they nolonger would try to fit into society, but that society should
    accomodate for them, by giving them special parking, one extra free airline seat, chairs without
    arms and so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always our fault. I have been on so
    many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose 50, and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to gain again. First I gained a
    few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which was good, then I gained 10
    lbs after that which was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to go
    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again. No way. This I way I am
    starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight she could successfully lose,
    the pounds would just jump right back onto her body regardless of what she did. I so much wanted to
    ask her, if she thought weight gain was something that just happened to her out of the blue, or if
    she went back to "normal" eating habits once the weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing. Gainig weight is an active
    thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from experience. How come she
    (or others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it back? I just donøt
    understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)

  2. good questions, no answers, Lee
    Mette <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was the show about two very large
    women who decided that they nolonger would try


    to

    Quoted message said:

    fit into society, but that society should accomodate for them, by giving them special parking, one
    extra free airline seat, chairs without arms and so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always our fault. I have been on so
    many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose 50, and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to


    gain

    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which
    was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that which was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right
    there. I did not want to


    go

    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again. No way. This I way I am
    starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight she could successfully lose,
    the pounds would just jump right back onto her


    body

    Quoted message said:

    regardless of what she did. I so much wanted to ask her, if she thought weight gain was something
    that just happened to her out of the blue, or if she went back to "normal" eating habits once the
    weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from
    experience. How come she (or others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it
    back? I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)

  3. Well in my case the weight came back on because I lost it the wrong way and then got horribly sick.
    I started out on WW (about 15 years ago) and then decided that I wasn't losing fast enough, or as
    much as I wanted, and decided to go for more drastic measures. I was exercising at least 2 hours a
    day (aerobics, walking, swimming, weights etc) and started paying really close attention to
    calories. 1200 - nope, too much. 1100 - still too much. I eventually got down to eating under 800
    calories a day. And y'know what - I lost more weight! And then, I came down with a severe case of
    bronchitis/bronchial pneumonia that almost landed me in the hospital. In the beginning my throat was
    so sore I could barely eat - I was on broth and diet jello. There was no way I could exercise, I
    could barely breathe. And after 2 weeks of that I gained 10 pounds. I don't actually recall how much
    I gained in total then except that it got me back to at least what I had started at, probably more
    than. It was 10 months before I was over the bronchitis.

    I decided at that point that I was never going to do that kind of damage to my system again.

    Unfortunately at that point my system was also very unused to normal portions. And then I bought
    into what our super-sized society calls a "normal" portion. And lo and behold, I just kept gaining
    more weight.

    Through the next decade+ I just kept gaining more weight, 5-10 pounds a year. Doesn't sound like
    much until you add it all together. Every time I started a new workout regime it would last 3 or 4
    days and then I'd get sick. Right up until I went for some tests and discovered that hey, I have
    allergies to pretty much anything airborne. I was getting sick because I was taking bigger, deeper
    breaths of allergens, and I wasn't actually "sick" but just having an allergic reaction. Now I take
    medication for that every day, and haven't had that problem since.

    Last year I decided that there was something very wrong with the way things were going. Gaining
    weight every year was NOT what I wanted to do. I found this newsgroup, when I was just looking for
    information, thinking I could try and do it quick. This newsgroup - these fabulous people - made me
    realize early on that it wasn't really about doing it quick, it was about doing it properly.

    As for the woman on the show - she's right. DIETS don't work. They teach you nothing about how to
    survive at a healthy level. Once you "go off" them there's nothing stopping that weight from coming
    right back on. WW is not a diet. It's a retraining program. There is no "going off" it because it's
    not a temporary measure, this is life. You follow the program, you live and eat by the principles,
    and you acquire a healthy lifestyle. LIFEstyle. As in you do this for LIFE, not just for 2 weeks or
    2 months or until the shakes or pills run out. It's a big commitment to have to make, especially in
    the face of all the diet [censored] being pushed promising fast weight loss for life with very little
    time/effort investment.

    Amberle3 (through with diets, focusing on learning how to live)

    Mette said:


    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was the show about two very large
    women who decided that they nolonger would try to fit into society, but that society should
    accomodate for them, by giving them special parking, one extra free airline seat, chairs without
    arms and so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always our fault. I have been on so
    many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose 50, and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to gain again. First I gained
    a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which was good, then I gained
    10 lbs after that which was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to
    go down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again. No way. This I way I am
    starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight she could successfully lose,
    the pounds would just jump right back onto her body regardless of what she did. I so much wanted
    to ask her, if she thought weight gain was something that just happened to her out of the blue, or
    if she went back to "normal" eating habits once the weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing. Gainig weight is an active
    thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from experience. How come she
    (or others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it back? I just donøt
    understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)

    --
    Amberle3
    249/220/215-minigoal/150?
    Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03

    - New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge:
    angelfire.comnyny.htm
    - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge:
    angelfire.comthtp.htm
    - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
    angelfire.comrafl.htm

  4. "Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from
    experience. How come she


    (or

    Quoted message said:

    others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it


    back?

    Quoted message said:

    I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)

    It happened to me and there isn't a very good explanation. Starting to diet in the first place for
    me was hard, it took quite a few tries and failures before I got serious. Once I "finished" I
    honestly wasn't seeing what was happening. It was slow how the weight started creeping back on, and
    it was easy to go into denial by thinking that my clothes must have shrunk in the washer/dryer, or
    similar excuses. Once I did realize, I went through the same process of trying and failing,
    including beating myself up for failing. I learned from that, now I realize that I can't ever stop
    trying. Even after I get to goal, I need to continue checking the scale and keeping an eye on what
    I'm doing.

  5. "Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... ...

    Quoted message said:


    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always our fault. I have been on so
    many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose 50, and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    These type of statements also bother me. It shows that they haven't accepted the changes they need
    to make. Using the term "dieting" to only refer to losing weight is a symptom that they really
    don't get it.

    "I went on a diet and lost 50 pounds"--translation: DIETS WORK! "I went off the diet, ate like
    before and gained back 75"--translation: I STILL ATE TOO MUCH.

    For those who are have medical conditions or take medicine that can cause weight gain, I
    understand. We all need to be treated with respect. My comments are for the rest of us who wish to
    maintain a loss.

    What worked for me was: I was unhappy with my weight of 250+ pounds and decided to do something
    about it. On my own, a week or two of cutting back on one thing would only cause an increase in
    something else and I'd maintain or go up--never down. It wasn't working, so I joined WW. I re-
    learned portion control (something my mother always stressed but I ignored), and CHANGED MY DIET. I
    did not go on a diet. When I went on maintenance, I changed my diet again and have maintained my 65
    pound loss.

    I had a gain over this past December, but caught myself and have gotten this back down. My new diet
    is here to stay. It is so easy to say "all things in moderation", but it's really difficult to put
    it into action. Bully to those who can!

    Quoted message said:

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to gain again. First I gained
    a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which was good, then I gained
    10 lbs after that which was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to
    go down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again. No way. This I way I am
    starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    Congratulations. Keep it up!

  6. Hi Mette,

    I saw that program too, and had similar feelings to yours about the comments the ladies made.

    My regains, in the past, were due to the fact that I started using food (again) in other than
    nutritional ways. I ate when I was bored. I ate when I was angry. I ate when I was sad. Eventually,
    I ate my way back up to 318 pounds.

    This time, I did a LOT of emotional work before I ever started to think about losing weight. I tried
    to discover WHY I ate more than I needed, and WHY I didn't want to move. Over the course of a year,
    I discovered a lot about myself and then I decided to lose weight.

    For the first time in my life, losing weight isn't a struggle. I don't care how long it takes. I
    don't care how slowly it comes off. I don't care if I have temorary gains due to water retention.
    I have no desire for the "diet" to end...because it isn't a diet now. It is the way I want to
    live forever.

    Now, 84 pounds lighter (and a good 65 to go) I do something when I am bored. I talk about it when I
    am angry. I go for a walk when I am sad. I move all the time because it feels good.

    Everyone should first discover why they overeat. If they did, they wouldn't be looking for quick
    fixes and ends to the diet. They'd be looking for a way to make their life better and more
    fulfilling.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/234/169
    84 lost since December 2002
    I am a slim person in process.
    ..............................................................
    "Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was the
    show about two very large women who decided that they nolonger would try


    to

    Quoted message said:

    fit into society, but that society should accomodate for them, by giving
    them special parking, one extra free airline seat, chairs without arms and
    so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always our
    fault. I have been on so many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose 50,
    and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to


    gain

    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not
    anorexic anylonger, which was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that which
    was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to


    go

    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again. No
    way.
    This I way I am starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight she
    could successfully lose, the pounds would just jump right back onto her


    body

    Quoted message said:

    regardless of what she did.
    I so much wanted to ask her, if she thought weight gain was something that
    just happened to her out of the blue, or if she went back to "normal"
    eating habits once the weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is.
    I am not being judgemental, but I speak from experience. How come she (or
    others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it back?
    I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)

  7. Hey Ted good to see you. Long time no see and all. I got to my WW goal while you were missing, now
    just working on my personal one. Your comments are right on.

    Lesanne
    365/157.5/155

    "Ted F. Edgar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    ...

    Quoted message said:


    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always


    our

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fault. I have been on so many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose


    50,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    These type of statements also bother me. It shows that they haven't accepted the changes they need
    to make. Using the term "dieting" to only refer to losing weight is a symptom that they really
    don't get it.

    "I went on a diet and lost 50 pounds"--translation: DIETS WORK! "I went off the diet, ate like
    before and gained back 75"--translation: I STILL ATE TOO MUCH.

    For those who are have medical conditions or take medicine that can cause weight gain, I
    understand. We all need to be treated with respect. My comments are for the rest of us who wish to
    maintain a loss.

    What worked for me was: I was unhappy with my weight of 250+ pounds and decided to do something
    about it. On my own, a week or two of cutting back on one thing would only cause an increase in
    something else and I'd maintain or go up--never down. It wasn't working, so I joined WW. I re-
    learned portion control (something my mother always stressed but I ignored), and CHANGED MY DIET.
    I did not go on a diet. When I went on maintenance, I changed my diet again and have maintained my
    65 pound loss.

    I had a gain over this past December, but caught myself and have gotten this back down. My new
    diet is here to stay. It is so easy to say "all things in moderation", but it's really difficult
    to put it into action. Bully to those who can!

    Quoted message said:

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to


    gain

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which
    was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to


    go

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again.


    No

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way. This I way I am starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    Congratulations. Keep it up!

  8. excellent post, Lee
    Amberle3 <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well in my case the weight came back on because I lost it the wrong way and then got horribly
    sick. I started out on WW (about 15 years ago) and then decided that I wasn't losing fast enough,
    or as much as I wanted, and decided to go for more drastic measures. I was exercising at least 2
    hours a day (aerobics, walking, swimming, weights etc) and started paying really close attention
    to calories. 1200 - nope, too much. 1100 - still too much. I eventually got down to eating under
    800 calories a day. And y'know what - I lost more weight! And then, I came down with a severe case
    of bronchitis/bronchial pneumonia that almost landed me in the hospital. In the beginning my
    throat was so sore I could barely eat - I was on broth and diet jello. There was no way I could
    exercise, I could barely breathe. And after 2 weeks of that I gained 10 pounds. I don't actually
    recall how much I gained in total then except that it got me back to at least what I had started
    at, probably more than. It was 10 months before I was over the bronchitis.

    I decided at that point that I was never going to do that kind of damage to my system again.

    Unfortunately at that point my system was also very unused to normal portions. And then I bought
    into what our super-sized society calls a "normal" portion. And lo and behold, I just kept gaining
    more weight.

    Through the next decade+ I just kept gaining more weight, 5-10 pounds a year. Doesn't sound like
    much until you add it all together. Every time I started a new workout regime it would last 3 or 4
    days and then I'd get sick. Right up until I went for some tests and discovered that hey, I have
    allergies to pretty much anything airborne. I was getting sick because I was taking bigger, deeper
    breaths of allergens, and I wasn't actually "sick" but just having an allergic reaction. Now I
    take medication for that every day, and haven't had that problem since.

    Last year I decided that there was something very wrong with the way things were going. Gaining
    weight every year was NOT what I wanted to do. I found this newsgroup, when I was just looking for
    information, thinking I could try and do it quick. This newsgroup - these fabulous people - made
    me realize early on that it wasn't really about doing it quick, it was about doing it properly.

    As for the woman on the show - she's right. DIETS don't work. They teach you nothing about how to
    survive at a healthy level. Once you "go off" them there's nothing stopping that weight from
    coming right back on. WW is not a diet. It's a retraining program. There is no "going off" it
    because it's not a temporary measure, this is life. You follow the program, you live and eat by
    the principles, and you acquire a healthy lifestyle. LIFEstyle. As in you do this for LIFE, not
    just for 2 weeks or 2 months or until the shakes or pills run out. It's a big commitment to have
    to make, especially in the face of all the diet [censored] being pushed promising fast weight loss for
    life with very little time/effort investment.

    Amberle3 (through with diets, focusing on learning how to live)

    Mette said:


    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was the show about two very
    large women who decided that they nolonger would try


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fit into society, but that society should accomodate for them, by giving them special parking,
    one extra free airline seat, chairs without arms


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always


    our

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fault. I have been on so many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose


    50,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to


    gain

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which
    was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to


    go

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again.


    No

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way. This I way I am starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight she could successfully
    lose, the pounds would just jump right back onto her


    body

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    regardless of what she did. I so much wanted to ask her, if she thought weight gain was
    something


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just happened to her out of the blue, or if she went back to "normal" eating habits once the
    weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from
    experience. How come she


    (or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it


    back?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)

    --
    Amberle3
    249/220/215-minigoal/150? Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03

    - New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: angelfire.comnyny.htm
    - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htm
    - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
    angelfire.comrafl.htm

  9. One of the biggest steps for me this time before starting (again) was to
    come clean with myself and ADMIT that I DO overeat!! I used to protest "But
    I don't eat THAT much!" when in reality I was probably consuming over 500
    points a day. I can out-eat my husband! Eating was my entertainment, my
    consolation, my reward, pretty much everything. So I came to grips with
    myself and admitted - I OVEREAT. Now, by practicing little tips I have
    picked up along the way - putting my fork down between bites, drinking water
    before, during, and after a meal, and eating half of what I'm given, I'm
    learning to eat to live and not live to eat. THAT way, yo-yo dieting will be
    a thing of my past. I'm not trying to brag on myself and I'm definitely not
    perfect, but as the reigning Queen of Yo-Yo Dieting, I just wanted to add my
    two cents worth. ?????
    "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Mette,

    I saw that program too, and had similar feelings to yours about the


    comments

    Quoted message said:

    the ladies made.

    My regains, in the past, were due to the fact that I started using food (again) in other than
    nutritional ways. I ate when I was bored. I ate


    when

    Quoted message said:

    I was angry. I ate when I was sad. Eventually, I ate my way back up to


    318

    Quoted message said:

    pounds.

    This time, I did a LOT of emotional work before I ever started to think about losing weight. I
    tried to discover WHY I ate more than I needed,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    WHY I didn't want to move. Over the course of a year, I discovered a lot about myself and then I
    decided to lose weight.

    For the first time in my life, losing weight isn't a struggle. I don't


    care

    Quoted message said:

    how long it takes. I don't care how slowly it comes off. I don't care if


    I

    Quoted message said:

    have temorary gains due to water retention. I have no desire for the


    "diet"

    Quoted message said:

    to end...because it isn't a diet now. It is the way I want to live


    forever.

    Quoted message said:


    Now, 84 pounds lighter (and a good 65 to go) I do something when I am


    bored.

    Quoted message said:

    I talk about it when I am angry. I go for a walk when I am sad. I move


    all

    Quoted message said:

    the time because it feels good.

    Everyone should first discover why they overeat. If they did, they


    wouldn't

    Quoted message said:

    be looking for quick fixes and ends to the diet. They'd be looking for a way to make their life
    better and more fulfilling.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/234/169 84 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process.
    .............................................................. "Mette"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was the show about two very
    large women who decided that they nolonger would try


    to

    Quoted message said:

    fit into society, but that society should accomodate for them, by giving them special parking,
    one extra free airline seat, chairs without arms


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always


    our

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fault. I have been on so many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose


    50,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to


    gain

    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which
    was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to


    go

    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again.


    No

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way. This I way I am starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight she could successfully
    lose, the pounds would just jump right back onto her


    body

    Quoted message said:

    regardless of what she did. I so much wanted to ask her, if she thought weight gain was
    something


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just happened to her out of the blue, or if she went back to "normal" eating habits once the
    weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from
    experience. How come she


    (or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it


    back?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)


  10. Well said. The long gap in the middle of my journey was spent doing similar things. (and building
    muscle so my metabolism would be repaired from all the damage I did with "diets"😉. This past road
    was truly much easier that everything that went before, and I did not have to give up Anything,
    except the emotional eating.

    "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Mette,

    I saw that program too, and had similar feelings to yours about the


    comments

    Quoted message said:

    the ladies made.

    My regains, in the past, were due to the fact that I started using food (again) in other than
    nutritional ways. I ate when I was bored. I ate


    when

    Quoted message said:

    I was angry. I ate when I was sad. Eventually, I ate my way back up to


    318

    Quoted message said:

    pounds.

    This time, I did a LOT of emotional work before I ever started to think about losing weight. I
    tried to discover WHY I ate more than I needed,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    WHY I didn't want to move. Over the course of a year, I discovered a lot about myself and then I
    decided to lose weight.

    For the first time in my life, losing weight isn't a struggle. I don't


    care

    Quoted message said:

    how long it takes. I don't care how slowly it comes off. I don't care if


    I

    Quoted message said:

    have temorary gains due to water retention. I have no desire for the


    "diet"

    Quoted message said:

    to end...because it isn't a diet now. It is the way I want to live


    forever.

    Quoted message said:


    Now, 84 pounds lighter (and a good 65 to go) I do something when I am


    bored.

    Quoted message said:

    I talk about it when I am angry. I go for a walk when I am sad. I move


    all

    Quoted message said:

    the time because it feels good.

    Everyone should first discover why they overeat. If they did, they


    wouldn't

    Quoted message said:

    be looking for quick fixes and ends to the diet. They'd be looking for a way to make their life
    better and more fulfilling.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/234/169 84 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process.
    .............................................................. "Mette"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was the show about two very
    large women who decided that they nolonger would try


    to

    Quoted message said:

    fit into society, but that society should accomodate for them, by giving them special parking,
    one extra free airline seat, chairs without arms


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always


    our

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fault. I have been on so many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose


    50,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started to


    gain

    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger, which
    was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want to


    go

    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again.


    No

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way. This I way I am starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping it.

    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight she could successfully
    lose, the pounds would just jump right back onto her


    body

    Quoted message said:

    regardless of what she did. I so much wanted to ask her, if she thought weight gain was
    something


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just happened to her out of the blue, or if she went back to "normal" eating habits once the
    weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from
    experience. How come she


    (or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it


    back?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)


  11. Great post and great progress. I believe you will make goal this time. And keep on moving

    Carol in NC said:

    Hi Mette,

    I saw that program too, and had similar feelings to yours about the comments the ladies made.

    My regains, in the past, were due to the fact that I started using food (again) in other than
    nutritional ways. I ate when I was bored. I ate when I was angry. I ate when I was sad. Eventually,
    I ate my way back up to 318 pounds.

    This time, I did a LOT of emotional work before I ever started to think about losing weight. I
    tried to discover WHY I ate more than I needed, and WHY I didn't want to move. Over the course of a
    year, I discovered a lot about myself and then I decided to lose weight.

    For the first time in my life, losing weight isn't a struggle. I don't care how long it takes. I
    don't care how slowly it comes off. I don't care if I have temorary gains due to water retention.
    I have no desire for the "diet" to end...because it isn't a diet now. It is the way I want to
    live forever.

    Now, 84 pounds lighter (and a good 65 to go) I do something when I am bored. I talk about it when I
    am angry. I go for a walk when I am sad. I move all the time because it feels good.

    Everyone should first discover why they overeat. If they did, they wouldn't be looking for quick
    fixes and ends to the diet. They'd be looking for a way to make their life better and more
    fulfilling.

    Carol

  12. Hi Lesanne,

    My metabolism was also shot from the way I ate before WW. I actually had to exercise a lot and eat a
    lot more at one stage along the way to get the scales to move. I'm also sure it's the reason that I
    lose so slowly now, even though I walk on average 3-5 miles a day, every day of the week.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/234/169
    84 lost since December 2002
    I am a slim person in process.
    ..............................................................
    "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well said. The long gap in the middle of my journey was spent doing


    similar

    Quoted message said:

    things. (and building muscle so my metabolism would be repaired from all
    the damage I did with "diets"😉. This past road was truly much easier that
    everything that went before, and I did not have to give up Anything,


    except

    Quoted message said:

    the emotional eating.

    "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Mette,

    I saw that program too, and had similar feelings to yours about the


    comments

    Quoted message said:

    the ladies made.

    My regains, in the past, were due to the fact that I started using food
    (again) in other than nutritional ways. I ate when I was bored. I ate


    when

    Quoted message said:

    I was angry. I ate when I was sad. Eventually, I ate my way back up to


    318

    Quoted message said:

    pounds.

    This time, I did a LOT of emotional work before I ever started to think
    about losing weight. I tried to discover WHY I ate more than I needed,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    WHY I didn't want to move. Over the course of a year, I discovered a


    lot

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about myself and then I decided to lose weight.

    For the first time in my life, losing weight isn't a struggle. I don't


    care

    Quoted message said:

    how long it takes. I don't care how slowly it comes off. I don't care


    if

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    have temorary gains due to water retention. I have no desire for the


    "diet"

    Quoted message said:

    to end...because it isn't a diet now. It is the way I want to live


    forever.

    Quoted message said:


    Now, 84 pounds lighter (and a good 65 to go) I do something when I am


    bored.

    Quoted message said:

    I talk about it when I am angry. I go for a walk when I am sad. I move


    all

    Quoted message said:

    the time because it feels good.

    Everyone should first discover why they overeat. If they did, they


    wouldn't

    Quoted message said:

    be looking for quick fixes and ends to the diet. They'd be looking for


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way to make their life better and more fulfilling.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/234/169
    84 lost since December 2002
    I am a slim person in process.
    ..............................................................
    "Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    show about two very large women who decided that they nolonger would


    try

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    fit into society, but that society should accomodate for them, by


    giving

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them special parking, one extra free airline seat, chairs without arms


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always


    our

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fault. I have been on so many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose


    50,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    gain

    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not
    anorexic anylonger, which was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go

    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again.


    No

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way.
    This I way I am starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping


    it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight


    she

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    could successfully lose, the pounds would just jump right back onto


    her

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body

    Quoted message said:

    regardless of what she did.
    I so much wanted to ask her, if she thought weight gain was something


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just happened to her out of the blue, or if she went back to "normal"
    eating habits once the weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is.
    I am not being judgemental, but I speak from experience. How come she


    (or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it


    back?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)



  13. but you should brag, this is a really big deal, I think finding out why we
    are heavy is the first key to not staying that way. When I started looking
    at this I found I am now not only aware of how I ate wrong but I am blessed
    with NOT having some other problems, for instance, I do not binge, I do not
    stress eat and so on, by assessing the eating behaviors we engage in we can
    not only resist the behaviors that help us to be heavy, we can take active
    actions to prevent ourselves from falling into bad habit traps that sabotage
    us, I say BE PROUD and BRAG it does you good, Lee
    WannaBLean <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    One of the biggest steps for me this time before starting (again) was to come clean with myself
    and ADMIT that I DO overeat!! I used to protest


    "But

    Quoted message said:

    I don't eat THAT much!" when in reality I was probably consuming over 500 points a day. I can out-
    eat my husband! Eating was my entertainment, my consolation, my reward, pretty much everything. So
    I came to grips with myself and admitted - I OVEREAT. Now, by practicing little tips I have picked
    up along the way - putting my fork down between bites, drinking


    water

    Quoted message said:

    before, during, and after a meal, and eating half of what I'm given, I'm learning to eat to live
    and not live to eat. THAT way, yo-yo dieting will


    be

    Quoted message said:

    a thing of my past. I'm not trying to brag on myself and I'm definitely


    not

    Quoted message said:

    perfect, but as the reigning Queen of Yo-Yo Dieting, I just wanted to add


    my

    Quoted message said:

    two cents worth. ????? "Carol in NC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Mette,

    I saw that program too, and had similar feelings to yours about the


    comments

    Quoted message said:

    the ladies made.

    My regains, in the past, were due to the fact that I started using food (again) in other than
    nutritional ways. I ate when I was bored. I ate


    when

    Quoted message said:

    I was angry. I ate when I was sad. Eventually, I ate my way back up to


    318

    Quoted message said:

    pounds.

    This time, I did a LOT of emotional work before I ever started to think about losing weight. I
    tried to discover WHY I ate more than I needed,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    WHY I didn't want to move. Over the course of a year, I discovered a


    lot

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about myself and then I decided to lose weight.

    For the first time in my life, losing weight isn't a struggle. I don't


    care

    Quoted message said:

    how long it takes. I don't care how slowly it comes off. I don't care


    if

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    have temorary gains due to water retention. I have no desire for the


    "diet"

    Quoted message said:

    to end...because it isn't a diet now. It is the way I want to live


    forever.

    Quoted message said:


    Now, 84 pounds lighter (and a good 65 to go) I do something when I am


    bored.

    Quoted message said:

    I talk about it when I am angry. I go for a walk when I am sad. I move


    all

    Quoted message said:

    the time because it feels good.

    Everyone should first discover why they overeat. If they did, they


    wouldn't

    Quoted message said:

    be looking for quick fixes and ends to the diet. They'd be looking for


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way to make their life better and more fulfilling.

    Carol

    --
    ............................................................
    318/234/169 84 lost since December 2002 I am a slim person in process.
    .............................................................. "Mette"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday I watched an oooold re-run of my favorite Dr. Phil! It was


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    show about two very large women who decided that they nolonger would


    try

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to

    Quoted message said:

    fit into society, but that society should accomodate for them, by


    giving

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them special parking, one extra free airline seat, chairs without arms


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so forth and so on.

    One of them said: "Everyone blames to the dieter. But it's not always


    our

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fault. I have been on so many diets, but dieting doesnt work. You lose


    50,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and then gain back 75. I am through with that".

    I must admit, that this statement simply annoyed me.

    I also lost 50 lbs. I kept it off for 2 years. Then I slowly started


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    gain

    Quoted message said:

    again. First I gained a few pounds so I finally looked normal and not anorexic anylonger,
    which was good, then I gained 10 lbs after that


    which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was NOT good. But I woke up, I stopped it right there. I did not want


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go

    Quoted message said:

    down that road again, having to lose 50 or even 60 lbs all over again.


    No

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    way. This I way I am starting now. I am rerversing it. Not just stopping


    it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    What got to me, what that she sounded like no matter how much weight


    she

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    could successfully lose, the pounds would just jump right back onto


    her

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    body

    Quoted message said:

    regardless of what she did. I so much wanted to ask her, if she thought weight gain was
    something


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just happened to her out of the blue, or if she went back to "normal" eating habits once the
    weight was off.

    I truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own yo-yo-ing.


    Gainig

    Quoted message said:

    weight is an active thing, as losing weight is. I am not being judgemental, but I speak from
    experience. How come she


    (or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    others) don't stop when they realize they have gained maybe ½ of it


    back?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just donøt understand, but maybe someone can explain it to me:o)



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