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  1. This is getting silly now. First myself, then Peter Minn and now Howard Peel
    who frequents this NG now and again and who is the author of the Bikezone
    site mentioned in another thread is the victim this time. Howard has in the
    past mentioned the lack of policing of uninsured drivers (one of his
    criticisms of Humberside Police) which encourages hit and run incidents.

    This letter is such an obvious fake and in any case Howard would not be
    bothered about a traffic jam. In addition, it mentions a dangerous railway
    crossing that Howard has campaigned for years to get fixed so that cyclists
    don't slip on the rails like dozens have done over the years.

    You can barely imagine someone so pathetic that instead of using reasoned
    arguments they have to stoop this low.

    Are you going to set the record straight Howard? I'd be on the blower to the
    editor to investigate this to see if they can trace the culprit (clue - she
    wants 30 mph signs putting up).

    Starts:

    I Was on Spring Bank West last Wednesday in a long, long line of traffic,
    which I thought was caused by an accident.

    When I eventually got to Walton Street railway crossing, I realised what the
    traffic jam was all about.

    It was caused by the police stopping and checking all vehicles to see if
    they were insured, taxed and with an MoT certificate and it took seven, yes
    seven, police cars to accomplish this.

    It's a complete disgrace the way this police manpower is used.

    H Peel,

    Pickering Road,

    Hull.

  2. On 2/7/04 11:30 am, in article [email hidden], "Simon

    Mason said:

    I Was on Spring Bank West last Wednesday in a long, long line of traffic,
    which I thought was caused by an accident.

    When I eventually got to Walton Street railway crossing, I realised what the
    traffic jam was all about.

    It was caused by the police stopping and checking all vehicles to see if
    they were insured, taxed and with an MoT certificate and it took seven, yes
    seven, police cars to accomplish this.

    It's a complete disgrace the way this police manpower is used.

    I suppose a reply would be something along the lines of:

    It is sad that [censored] feels that police manpower is being misused. Instead of
    attempting to ensure that motorists (who only kill n per year in humberside)
    are brought to book for such petty crimes as driving an unroadworthy vehicle
    with the potential to kill innocent bystanders (quote a couple of relevant
    cases here), they should instead be focussing on real crimes such as the
    neighbours with the stereo a bit loud, or preventing murders ( y last year).

    Signed
    the real Howard Peel.

    I suppose you could threaten the editor with a small claims court action for
    every time he prints a letter that falsely purports to be from you.

    ...d

  3. David Martin said:

    I suppose a reply would be something along the lines of:

    It is sad that [censored] feels that police manpower is being misused. Instead of
    attempting to ensure that motorists (who only kill n per year in humberside)

    I don't imagine that using the H********e word will get you far in the
    HDM these days...

    Roger

  4. On 2/7/04 1:58 pm, in article [email hidden],

    Roger Hughes said:

    I don't imagine that using the H********e word will get you far in the
    HDM these days...

    Why not? It's all the south anyway..

    ;-)

    ...d

  5. Hi Simon,

    I am not at all sure that letter it is from a certain person we know
    and love and who has a face like a melted plastic ashtray... For one
    thing it seems someone living in Mr Minn's street and just happening
    to have my name also has a letter in 'The West Hull Advertiser' this
    week demanding that conscription be brought back!

    Could be low level intimidation from someone pro-car, anti-speed
    camera anti-cycling nut. They might even be a member of the ABD who
    are known, allegedly, for sending in multiple bogus letters in an
    attempt to give the illusion they have widespread support. Or perhaps
    just some crank who will come round and murder us all in our beds...

    I have contacted the Mail about this. We'll see what they come back
    with.

    Regards,

    Howard.

  6. On 2 Jul 2004 07:53:18 -0700 someone who may be
    [email hidden] (Howard) wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    Could be low level intimidation from someone pro-car, anti-speed
    camera anti-cycling nut. They might even be a member of the ABD who
    are known, allegedly, for sending in multiple bogus letters in an
    attempt to give the illusion they have widespread support.

    Another of their tactics is to write letters to people who have
    disagreed with them in the newspapers. These letters follow a
    script, the script in their how to campaign manual I gather. They
    start off by alleging that the sender has been misrepresented, they
    then threaten vague legal action. The intention is to get the
    recipient to stop writing to the papers.

    I am very sorry to say that I have never had such a letter. I will
    have to try harder.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
    I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
    prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

  7. Simon Mason said:

    This is getting silly now. First myself, then Peter Minn and now Howard Peel
    who frequents this NG now and again and who is the author of the Bikezone
    site mentioned in another thread is the victim this time.

    I'd like to see a fake letter under my Usenet ID, but I doubt they'd
    print it. From ZT Undeniable Esq.

  8. [email hidden] (Howard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Simon,

    I am not at all sure that letter it is from a certain person we know
    and love and who has a face like a melted plastic ashtray... For one
    thing it seems someone living in Mr Minn's street and just happening
    to have my name also has a letter in 'The West Hull Advertiser' this
    week demanding that conscription be brought back!

    Could be low level intimidation from someone pro-car, anti-speed
    camera anti-cycling nut. They might even be a member of the ABD who
    are known, allegedly, for sending in multiple bogus letters in an
    attempt to give the illusion they have widespread support. Or perhaps
    just some crank who will come round and murder us all in our beds...

    I have contacted the Mail about this. We'll see what they come back
    with.

    Regards,

    Howard.

    What "worries" me is that whoever this is used my address of 4 years
    ago! This would mean that this person might save all letters going
    back at least that far, since the online letters do not go back to
    2000. The Mail should at least make some attempt to check up on the
    writer's identity by matching names and addresses in the electoral
    register.

    Simon

  9. Simon Mason said:

    You can barely imagine someone so pathetic that instead of using reasoned
    arguments they have to stoop this low.

    It sounds quite an achievement to get three fake letters published.
    As with Usenet trolls, your best bet is to laugh with the perpetrator.

  10. Quoted message said:


    What "worries" me is that whoever this is used my address of 4 years
    ago!

    Simon

    I sold my house on Pickering road 12 years ago!

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