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bikeriderfrance said:

😠 hi there, i saw in another liens that you had to book with tour operators to get into the etape, send £100 non refundable, then before 17th of november another £100 NR then the rest up to £400 a month before the event.. i think once again old J M Bonkers has hit it on the head, keep out the etrangers,except the rich ones/// its criminal to me that the restrictions are so tight, it will be an event for the RICH only, what about the guys who take thier holidays in france at the time to watch the tour and take in the etape.. if there are any guys out there who want to DO the etape, let me do it from france, all i would want is a few bob to cover my costs, ie postage / .printing ect... the biggest problem is the medical cert, i would need that here in france by the end of january.... its up to you... bon courage.🙂

Fair dues to you, BRF.

I've seen a lot of complaints about how the Etape is being closed out to individual registration from outside of France (www.cyclingnews.com - letters page).
Seems that anyone from outside France has to go through an "agent", to get a place on the Etape.

Fair play to you - BRF.
Very generous of you to offer to do this.

philhudson said:

sounds like you had a great time. I went out today with my club, it was a pace of about 17-20mph over 40 miles, i found it really hard as i got to bed at 2 in the morning and had to be up at 7 to get to my club....it also didnt help the steepest hill in my county (essex) was included in the ride 🙄

Now ive learnt that doing hard rides with no sleep is hard.....haha

Hello Phil, Welcome. I'm a bit concerned about something here, and others might might think the same. We know it's the club hacking season which gives a chance to youngsters to develop stamina with their elders as nobody goes stamping on. The main concern is that 40 miles is nothing in the stamina building stakes, for you or the other members to maintain it. I feel that a Sunday run at this time of year should be at least 70-80 miles. 40 miles out, 1 hour lunch, and then back home. It's quite a reasonable ask as you will be swishing along in a bunch, chatting about this and that, and the time like the miles pass quickly. By the way how many seniors are on the runs, and how many juniors?

im the youngest there by two years, theres a 15 year old thats regulalry there then the rest are seniors

hemplands said:

Had a very enjoyable experience this morning whilst going shopping.

Got caught behind a club run, (I was the passenger so could drool legally, & it was a good job my kids weren't there.) about 20 or so doing very nicely through the village on some rather flash bikes, a nice Bianchi and a beaut of a Cannondale were present, didn't notice any more the lycra was more interesting.

What I'd like to know is do they always ride all over the road, not allowing you to pass them seeming to have fun with the car drivers. or is it a male thing.

Someone please enlighten me, even though I enjoyed the mile or so following them.
MCM

Hey, Hey MCM, who are you kidding here. Shopping? Doubt it! You just drove round the Cotswolds until you found a club run, then stayed behind it until you had taken photos of riders "Shakin' that Ass" thus causing a five mile tailback. As for riders being all over the road. Simple answer. Most of them never learn't to ride in club runs.

philhudson said:

im the youngest there by two years, theres a 15 year old thats regulalry there then the rest are seniors

Well how many seniors are there?. Did you once post in to Eurosport asking if you should join a club. Then send a profound statement regarding something in the TDF. And BRF said your trying to pull his plonker, that with your knowledge you should be in a club 'cos only real cyclists could write what you did.

Yep Im in a club! Thas who I go out with at the weekends! What did you mean about the TDF statement?

philhudson said:

Yep Im in a club! Thas who I go out with at the weekends! What did you mean about the TDF statement?

Never mind about the post on ES, it was a long shot anyway. How many riders turn up for the club run? and do you do extra miles on other days. How many miles a week are you doing now.

I do about 80 miles a week, plus many other sports. I do 40 mile club run on saturdays at slower pace with stop (about 10- 15 people turn up) and sunday training rides of about 40 - 55 miles (about 7 - 10 people turn up) at a faster pace of somewhere between 15 - 17 mph or 17 - 20 mph.

philhudson said:

I do about 80 miles a week, plus many other sports. I do 40 mile club run on saturdays at slower pace with stop (about 10- 15 people turn up) and sunday training rides of about 40 - 55 miles (about 7 - 10 people turn up) at a faster pace of somewhere between 15 - 17 mph or 17 - 20 mph.

Sounds good to me for this time of the year. Let's see what BRF thinks.

whats the BRF?

philhudson said:

whats the BRF?

BRF is short for bikeriderfrance on the board. Just a shortened title. We'll have you riding for GB.

Thanks, how do you do it? (dont answer if no need)🙄 sorry jsut something i was a bit curious about 🙄

hi there, bikeriderfrance here, want to ride for gb, east peezy, 1st up your milage to min 250 per week, contact the bcf and tell them you are a future olympic kilo rider, get in 5ooo miles before next easter, and enter the good friday meet at herne hill, enter all the events, and screw em in every one, voila they will give you £10,000 to ride for them,, ps still get in your 300 miles a week training. bon courage

bikeriderfrance said:

hi there, bikeriderfrance here, want to ride for gb, east peezy, 1st up your milage to min 250 per week, contact the bcf and tell them you are a future olympic kilo rider, get in 5ooo miles before next easter, and enter the good friday meet at herne hill, enter all the events, and screw em in every one, voila they will give you £10,000 to ride for them,, ps still get in your 300 miles a week training. bon courage

[censored] BRF, He's only 13..I think it's easier these days... Not as many riders prepared to work at it... How many were you doing a week at 13/14? I could stick in about 160-180 miles riding and most of them were dedicated miles. but I had been at it since the age of 10 building it up, much like you did. We have a lad here, Phil, who doesn't have company from riders of own age group. If he can stay with the seniors, and pop a few extra miles in, come the new year he will have to increase the mileage anyway, and he will have more confidence in his ability and should be able to stick with them, and then pile on the miles. Hopefully by then they won't be able to shake him off, and his confidence will grow...Any advice from Lim? or others on our protege?

Thats the thing I would be out everyday if i had someone to ride with.....does turbo traning count as mileage, as when i get one,(For Christmas!) I will be on it constantly!

Thanks for all of the great advice , Phil

Its hard for me to get out much around may way, due to the roads being 5 inches deep with pot holes, and the country side along way away 🙁 Being on a turbo trainer seems ideal to me, but would that be as good as riding properly out doors?( I will still get out for club runs every weekend)
Also as its gettign darker sooner, I wouldnt really like to be cycling by myself in the dark.....

Phil.....

philhudson said:

Its hard for me to get out much around may way, due to the roads being 5 inches deep with pot holes, and the country side along way away 🙁 Being on a turbo trainer seems ideal to me, but would that be as good as riding properly out doors?( I will still get out for club runs every weekend)
Also as its gettign darker sooner, I wouldnt really like to be cycling by myself in the dark.....

Phil.....

That's the deal then for the darkdays. Turbo, special dispensation then, I know you'll do it. Of course we don't where you live in Essex, but most importantly it's the amount of lighting. BRF and I come from different sides of the Pennines in Industrial connurbations where with a bit of working out you could ride all night. We had few punctures. 'cos we didn't have hawthorn hedges. Bob Downs made it, why not you?

Young Phil Hudson (sounds like a name from Monty Python).

Fair dues to you - suggest that you listen and learn to Fred C and BRF.
They have a wealth of knowledge there, that would be invaluable to a youngster such as yourself.
Great to see a young 'un getting in to the sport and enjoying it too.

get your turbo - get out on the road if you can.
if you can't get out on the road - you've got the turbo to rely on.
Main thing is to keep pedalling.

Thanks for all the great help guys!

Redneck said:

Things are going well - I purchased the Casati and haven't ridden as much as I like - between the weather here and life in general, it's a bit of a chore, to be honest. I have a winter training plan that I am going to start next week. Maybe I will keep everyone up on that little venture.

As for the ES board, I grew weary of not seeing messages posted for days and just the bunk that ran rampant in general. A forum like this is good in the sense that we are absolutely sure that we are who we are (if we check the spelling!).

It's good to see the crew here. I think David Byrne once said it (loosely)- This is the place...

Any news from the blood transfusion service about missing stock? No wrong one. Any news on Tyler Hamilton over there? not much going on over here.