WTF????? I Lost 10 lbs. Today!!!!!

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hey!

I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe three or four
hours of rest throughout.

I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone as high as
34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking my sweet time climbing a
hill (though I usually love to climb hills).

Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I see that a
190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest pace of ~15 mph burns
600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last night...now, about an hour back
from a sixty or eighty mile day -- I forget what my odometer read when
starting out -- though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles),
which is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!

Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish sandwich with
tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a triple cheeseburger and
medium fries with a medium iced tea -- that's like 2,416 calories right
there! The only other thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier
in the day (roughly one and a half servings).

So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be water
weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the next two days and
see if I don't gain any back...?

What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once, anyway? Now
I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten pounds a week...eat proper,
and exercise the hell out of myself!

I've seen various figures for cycling calories, usually about 40 per mile
for a modest pace. Why would you eat all that [censored] at Burger King in the
middle of a ride? You can do 40 to 50 miles just on carbohydrate stores,
although I don't recommend it. A few light snacks along the way should keep
you from bonking on a ride like that. You probably lost some carb stores
and the associated water weight. IMHO, bike riding is the most effective way
to burn lots of calories. If you ride x miles from home it's a pretty good
bet you're going to ride back, so quitting before your target distance is
not an option.

ATP* said:

I've seen various figures for cycling calories, usually about 40 per mile
for a modest pace.

Wow, that's great! I mean, it's very easy to go miles and miles...when
I commute to work, it's around nine miles each way (depending on the
route, sometimes ten, sometimes eight)...super!

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Why would you eat all that [censored] at Burger King in the
middle of a ride?

Dude, it's flame-broiled!

Seriously, "traveling" has always meant food to me...well, I love food
to begin with (it's the great national pastime for Chinese -- LOL!),
and those energy bars feel so lame.

Actually, hunger isn't the point...it just seems to go together,
rigorous physical activity and hearty meals! I think I work out just
to justify dining out.

Quoted message said:

You can do 40 to 50 miles just on carbohydrate stores,
although I don't recommend it.

Why not? I've done all-day rides of about fifty miles without eating
the entire day. Didn't feel any different. Actually, it's amazing how
easily hunger is ignored when you're busy pedaling!

Quoted message said:

A few light snacks along the way should keep
you from bonking on a ride like that. You probably lost some carb stores
and the associated water weight. IMHO, bike riding is the most effective way
to burn lots of calories. If you ride x miles from home it's a pretty good
bet you're going to ride back, so quitting before your target distance is
not an option.

Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????

Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!

I ate one of them Healthy Choice microwavable entrees (only 280
calories -- and feels like it [that is, a snack]!) and a protein shake
(80 calories for 40g protein) and lots of water (half gallon!)...and
THREE POUNDS, JUST LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!

NYC XYZ said:

Hey!

I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe three or four
hours of rest throughout.

I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone as high as
34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking my sweet time climbing a
hill (though I usually love to climb hills).

Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I see that a
190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest pace of ~15 mph burns
600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last night...now, about an hour back
from a sixty or eighty mile day -- I forget what my odometer read when
starting out -- though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles),
which is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!

Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish sandwich with
tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a triple cheeseburger and
medium fries with a medium iced tea -- that's like 2,416 calories right
there! The only other thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier
in the day (roughly one and a half servings).

So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be water
weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the next two days and
see if I don't gain any back...?

What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once, anyway? Now
I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten pounds a week...eat proper,
and exercise the hell out of myself!

You haven't actually lost much of the essential weight, that of fat
stores. This will only happen to any noticed extent by continuing your
exercise regime. Keep at it and do it more than just one day a week then
you'll notice a difference that will be longterm.
BTW you have probably lost a lot of water through dehydration and
probably compounded this by taking in slow-to-digest fast foods. Unless
since the ride you've taken in some mineral/sports drink like Gatorade
you probably won't have a good bowel movement for days. Of course
depending on your age this might be natural.

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Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????

Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!

I ate one of them Healthy Choice microwavable entrees (only 280
calories -- and feels like it [that is, a snack]!) and a protein shake
(80 calories for 40g protein) and lots of water (half gallon!)...and
THREE POUNDS, JUST LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!

Take a dump and you'll only be up two for a net of eight lost.

Be sure to take a scale to work with you and weigh before and after the
coffee break and the mid-morning whiz, too. Keep careful records, we'll be
checking.

Seriously, weigh yourself about once a week. If you want to take weight off
and keep it off, plan on about 2.5 lb per week max, and plan to hit plateaus
and little up and down transients. The transients can be discouraging (or
manic-depressive, maybe) if you weigh daily or more often. Muscle is also
more dense than fat, so as your body composition changes, weight might not
be the best index of fitness. Maybe the way your pants fit might tell you
more about that. Or (if all else fails) how you FEEL.

Ten pounds isn't even a gallon and a half of sweat and water vapor lost to
hard breathing. So, yeah, you could lose five kilos (5% of your body
weight) on a long hot ride. And a half gallon of water weighs four pounds,
just under two kilos.

On 25 Sep 2005 20:08:01 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]>

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Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????

Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!

10lbs is not at all surprising. Simply water weight fluctuation,
normal for any runner in hot weather. A good dump is 5 lbs.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

"NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hey!

I was biking for about maybe six hours today, with maybe three or four
hours of rest throughout.

I probably ride at an average speed of ~18 mph. I've gone as high as
34 speeding downhill, and as slow as 6 taking my sweet time climbing a
hill (though I usually love to climb hills).

Looking at a site that lists calories burned by activity, I see that a
190-lb. person riding for an hour at a modest pace of ~15 mph burns
600-some-odd calories! I was 235 last night...now, about an hour back
from a sixty or eighty mile day -- I forget what my odometer read when
starting out -- though I am certain I did at least sixty four miles),
which is about what I typically ride when I ride (last week it was
eighty-five or so)...I'm...225!!!!

Thing is, I had stuff at Burger King for lunch...fish sandwich with
tartar sauce, chicken sandwich with mayo, a triple cheeseburger and
medium fries with a medium iced tea -- that's like 2,416 calories right
there! The only other thing I had was a bowl of Total cereal earlier
in the day (roughly one and a half servings).

Bad move. High fat stuff. certainly fat in the tartare sauce, mayo, cheese,
fries as well as whatever fat content the meat had. There's much better
stuff you can eat. This stuff is fine for the occasional treat, but not
whilst exercising - it takes an age to digest. Much better to eat something
that's going to provide decent fuel before you start riding. Porridge
(oatmeal) with fruit is a good starter. The porridge gives a good low-fat,
slow-release of carbohydrate and the fruit gives a quicker release - so
you've got something to get you going and keep you going. Take plenty of
fluid with you on the ride and drink regularly.

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So I'm like...wow! TEN POUNDS! Though a lot of it must be water
weight...how to tell? Maybe I'll eat proper for the next two days and
see if I don't gain any back...?

Mostly fluid. You need to keep hydrated or you will lose energy relatively
quickly, get dehydrated and you can become constipated.

Quoted message said:

What's the big deal with losing so much weight at once, anyway? Now
I'm wondering if I shouldn't try losing ten pounds a week...eat proper,
and exercise the hell out of myself!

Aim for a loss of about 2-3 lbs per week over the long term. This is a
healthy amount to lose that is easier to keep off. Lose a lot quickly and
you risk putting it back on quickly. I know this - been there, done that 🙂

Cheers, helne s

The Bill Rogers <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> On 25 Sep 2005 20:08:01 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]>
:> wrote:
:>
:>>Yeah, but TEN POUNDS????
:>>
:>>Oh, BTW -- I've just gained back three!!!!!
:> 10lbs is not at all surprising. Simply water weight fluctuation,
:> normal for any runner in hot weather. A good dump is 5 lbs.

No way is a good dump 5 lbs. When is the last time you weighed some [censored]?

well, maybe you [censored] bricks... 🙂

Roger Zoul said:

No way is a good dump 5 lbs. When is the last time you weighed some [censored]?

Eat some roughage, you'll "get it".

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

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Roger Zoul said:

No way is a good dump 5 lbs. When is the last time you weighed some [censored]?

Eat some roughage, you'll "get it".

Actually, he'll lose it ;-)

Cheers, helen s

You're right! I don't know where I got that...wishful thinking?

It's actually 220 calories for 40g of protein...I just checked! It's
that GNC Mega-something-or-other whey with some creatine and carbs....

Well, that explains the three pounds, then!

But now, I weighed myself again this morning...and I lost the three
pounds!!! I'm back down to 225!!!!

?!?!?!?!?

Spammers_Should_Be_Shot said:

Damn, where'd you get that? A gram of protein (or carbs) = 4 calories.

40 x 4 = 160 so..... either your calorie number is wrong or the protein
number is (not to mention there's probably other stuff besides just protein
in that shake!)

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:24:11 +0100, "wafflycat"

waffles*$*A**T*v21net$*££*D*O*T*co*D£$£*O*T*uk said:

Actually, he'll lose it

But after he loses it, he'll get it.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

On 26 Sep 2005 06:31:14 -0700, "NYC XYZ" <[email hidden]>

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But now, I weighed myself again this morning...and I lost the three
pounds!!! I'm back down to 225!!!!

WTF is your obsession with the scale? You should weigh yourself once
per week, at the same time of day, preferably morning. It is PERFECTLY
NORMAL to lose 3 lbs overnight, by suppertime it'll be back.
I'm for passing a law that scales must be sold with instructions for
stupid people included.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

The Bill Rogers said:

WTF is your obsession with the scale?

WTF is your obsession with my obsession??

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You should weigh yourself once
per week, at the same time of day, preferably morning.

Actually, I don't really care. I look all of 180. No joke! Buffed,
etc. Folks routinely think me like thirty to seventy pounds lighter
than I really am.

I just started getting into monitoring my weight 'cause 1) I recently
read that one can be too heavy for one's bike (and particularly its
wheels -- I'm riding rough on 32 spokes when the recommended number for
my weight class is at least 36), and 2) I am interested in parachuting,
and most places that take you up have an upper weight limit of 225 lbs.

Besides, I like to jog and feel like I'd enjoy it even more if I were
back down to ~180-200 lbs.

Quoted message said:

It is PERFECTLY
NORMAL to lose 3 lbs overnight, by suppertime it'll be back.

Ah, well, didn't realize this. Though stuff was supposed to take
longer? Digestion, etc.

Quoted message said:

I'm for passing a law that scales must be sold with instructions for
stupid people included.

LOL -- like the one that comes with remote controls which state that if
you don't like what you see, CHANGE THE CHANNEL OR TURN IT OFF!

I can't wait for them to perfect the process of creating meat in the
laboratory!

Did anyone else read or hear about this in the news (not to be confused
with the other story about some guy finding out how to turn dark meat
into white meat)? It was like three weeks ago...some scientist(s)
created actual meat in the laboratory!!!!!

You're in high tech? Maybe you know about this stuff?

One of the most promising things about this technology would be the
ability to manufacture perfectly fatless meat full of vitamins and
minerals!!!

Paul Hobson said:

www.peta.org

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--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the words to numbers
if you want to reply to me:.

NYC XYZ said:

I can't wait for them to perfect the process of creating meat in the
laboratory!

Did anyone else read or hear about this in the news (not to be confused
with the other story about some guy finding out how to turn dark meat
into white meat)? It was like three weeks ago...some scientist(s)
created actual meat in the laboratory!!!!!

You're in high tech? Maybe you know about this stuff?

One of the most promising things about this technology would be the
ability to manufacture perfectly fatless meat full of vitamins and
minerals!!!

"It's people! Soylent Green is people!"

perfectly fatless meat isn't all that fun to eat, or cook, anyway. Go
with a protein powder if that's what you're after.

- bc

I agree Bill.

I weigh myself more often than once a week, but the fluctuations are
wild day to day, and I'm only 130 lb (give or take, depending on the
time of day or what I did the day before etc.) If I eat something
salty and drink a lot of fluids one evening, I can be up 3 or 4 pounds
the next day - and of course, women fluctuate like crazy just due to
time of the month. If I'm a bit dehydrated in the morning, boom, I'm
down weight - not fat, just water weight. I just look for the point I
seem to be fluctuating around - the fulcrum. When I was actively
dieting, I used to graph my weight (I had medically supervised weigh
ins 3x per week), and while the overall long term trend went steadily
down, day to day, week to week, it fluctuated all over the place, and I
had to learn to ignore that (omigod, I'm trying so hard and I'm not
losing!!!....omigod, I'm up 1/2 lb...argh I'm so discouraged!!).

The big picture view is the one that matters. If a person who weighs
130 can fluctuate over a 5-7 pound range strictly due to fluid, a
person who is 225 may have an even wider range. My late father, who
weighed more than 320...,and yes, obesity contributed to his early
death at 63), used to comment that his weight would fluctuate 15 lb or
so just due to water.

I just about died when I saw what NYC had for lunch. Never mind weight
loss, talk about a totally over the top junky, high fat high calorie
pig out . You might as well just eat a brick of lard for all the
nutrition that mess of fast food contained.

I was watching a thing on TV about a guy who weighed more than 1000 lb.
He was hospitalized (congestive heart failure), and one thing they had
to deal with immediately was....malnutrition. He was eating mountains
of [censored] but despite the volume of calories, was actually malnourished
which was contributing to his health issues. Kinda wild.

I've only been maintaining for 7 months now, but I am extremely
conscious of making what I do eat count i.e. no more empty calories,
that make me fat, and contribute nothing to keeping the machine running
well.

Mary
5' 6", was 196 about a year ago. Ain't going back there, no how, no way.

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I agree Bill.

I weigh myself more often than once a week, but the fluctuations are
wild day to day, and I'm only 130 lb (give or take, depending on the
time of day or what I did the day before etc.) If I eat something
salty and drink a lot of fluids one evening, I can be up 3 or 4 pounds
the next day - and of course, women fluctuate like crazy just due to
time of the month. If I'm a bit dehydrated in the morning, boom, I'm
down weight - not fat, just water weight. I just look for the point I
seem to be fluctuating around - the fulcrum. When I was actively
dieting, I used to graph my weight (I had medically supervised weigh
ins 3x per week), and while the overall long term trend went steadily
down, day to day, week to week, it fluctuated all over the place, and I
had to learn to ignore that (omigod, I'm trying so hard and I'm not
losing!!!....omigod, I'm up 1/2 lb...argh I'm so discouraged!!).

The big picture view is the one that matters. If a person who weighs
130 can fluctuate over a 5-7 pound range strictly due to fluid, a
person who is 225 may have an even wider range. My late father, who
weighed more than 320...,and yes, obesity contributed to his early
death at 63), used to comment that his weight would fluctuate 15 lb or
so just due to water.

I just about died when I saw what NYC had for lunch. Never mind weight
loss, talk about a totally over the top junky, high fat high calorie
pig out . You might as well just eat a brick of lard for all the
nutrition that mess of fast food contained.

I was watching a thing on TV about a guy who weighed more than 1000 lb.
He was hospitalized (congestive heart failure), and one thing they had
to deal with immediately was....malnutrition. He was eating mountains
of [censored] but despite the volume of calories, was actually malnourished
which was contributing to his health issues. Kinda wild.

I've only been maintaining for 7 months now, but I am extremely
conscious of making what I do eat count i.e. no more empty calories,
that make me fat, and contribute nothing to keeping the machine running
well.

Mary
5' 6", was 196 about a year ago. Ain't going back there, no how, no way.

WOW! You were really a pig a year ago. I hope you keep it off, no one likes
to bang a slob!

Gee Bill, that was a pleasant response. Blood sugar a little low?

M

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Gee Bill, that was a pleasant response. Blood sugar a little low?

M

Which part did you disagree with?

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."