WTB Stout Impressions?

pkittle said:

Anyone running the WTB Stout on their 29ers?

I'm new to 29ers and the furthest on the footpaths I've been is about
10miles, no off road yet but I'm gonna attempt it soon.

I've got a WTB Stout 2.3 on my 29er and although it is hard work on
roads and paths, I thought it was the tyre for me to go off road with
and that's why I had it on my KH29 when I ordered it.

I'm gonna follow this thread as I'd like to know what others think of
it on the rough stuff. Good call!

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I'm looking for a 29" offroad tire and would also like to hear how this
compares with the Exiwolf, which i've read good things about.

nashbar.com has the exi for $25 right now so I might go for it anway.

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I haven't gotten around to trying a Stout yet. This is mostly because
I'm really happy with my Exiwolf for almost all of what I typically
ride--a mix of road and dirt, basically anything that doesn't have
bigger than about a foot drops.

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phlegm said:

I haven't gotten around to trying a Stout yet. This is mostly because
I'm really happy with my Exiwolf for almost all of what I typically
ride--a mix of road and dirt, basically anything that doesn't have
bigger than about a foot drops.

Yeah, I like the Exi, too; I'm really just wanting something with a
little more volume. I'm tired of hitting rim all the time on the rocky
trails in Chico. I'm going to swing by my LBS that carries 29er stuff,
and see if they have a Stout in stock.

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Just ordered a Stout from Universal Cycles ($36.99), so I'll report back
once I get it on the uni and have some miles on it.

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I'm anxious to hear how the stout performs, as I too, have been running
Exi for a couple years. Thanks for being the guinea pig, pkittle.

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Well, the Stout arrived today, and I mounted it up. It was raining
today, so I didn't get out on it yet. If the trails are open tomorrow
(they close in wet weather), I'll get out and report. If they're
closed, it may take until this weekend's 'Shasta Lemurian Classic'
(http://www.shastalemurian.org/) mountain bike race for me to give it
its first workout.

Two things I noticed, though. First, it's not quite as wide,
sidewall-to-sidewall, as the ExiWolf I had on it before, although only
by maybe an eighth or sixteenth of an inch. The profile seems far less
rounded, too, compared to the Exi; side by side, they looked a lot like
the difference between a Duro Leopard and a Gazz (although the Exi I
was comparing it to, after mounting, was on my bike, which has a
narrower rim than the KH on the muni, so that may tend to round out the
profile a little more).

Second thing was that, after pumping it up to 22 psi (which is where
I'd been running the Exi) and doing a bit of hopping, I can say that
the tire is significantly stiffer than the Exi; I didn't bottom out,
which was an issue with the Exi. It seems like the sidewalls are quite
a bit thicker, or at least put up more resistance. I hope that they're
better at resisting tire fold on off-camber trails, but we'll see.

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Your bike rim would round the tire some, but maybe not a lot.

Take a picture of each from the front (or back), both on your KH
rim.:o🙂

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If I can remember, I'll take some shots of the Stout next to the Exi
(but it'll be mounted on my bike, so won't be quite apples-to-apples).

Got a few miles on the Stout today, mostly rocky singletrack with about
300 feet of climbing. What I noticed: it's stout. Yes, really stout. I
still hit rim in a few places, but it was far more cushioned than with
the Exi. I felt a lot more confidence about tractoring through really
rough sections, and didn't cringe so much on drops.

So that's the good. It really felt more like a fat tire should feel.

The bad? It's heavier. A lot heavier. Noticeably heavier. 1150g for the
Stout, versus 825g for the Exi it replaced. I had to get used to a
different climbing cadence because of the weight--I got caught several
times not putting enough power down to swing my crank over the top,
just because the rotating weight was different enough from what I've
been riding for the last 5 months. It wasn't a dealbreaker or
anything--I figured it out soon enough--but if you're particularly
attentive to increased weight, it may not be the tire for you. On the
plus side, this seemed to have some good effects in terms of keeping
momentum up on flats and downhills.

It seemed to handle pretty well, and had better traction on looser
rocks. But it also felt more prone to getting squirrelly on off-camber
trails; I don't think this would be good road crown riding.

I'll update when I have more miles (and more diverse kinds of riding)
on it.

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A couple more thoughts on the Stout. I had the chance to look at the
profile next to my friend's Nevegal, and it actually looks to me like
it's a little narrower across the tread--but probably just a hair.

I ran the Stout in the Shasta Lemurian Classic today, and I can't say I
was pleased with my choice. The course starts with a 4-mile climb, and
the weight was absolutely noticeable; I felt like I was handicapped
significantly, compared to the Exiwolf I've been running. That's on the
uphill. On the downhill, it was pretty great--terrific for tractoring
though rock gardens, great grip even in the loose, decomposed marble
trails.

So I'm going to keep it on the 29er until I get a few rides on more
traditional xc trails that are rolling, with some good rocky sections,
and see how I like it. Right now, I'm thinking that I may be heading
back to the Exi.

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just noticed the weirwolf is now available in 29x2.55. anybody try one
on a uni yet?

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I'm not sure if the WW has been put on a muni. But the reviews at mtbr
haven't been favorable--really thin sidewalls, especially, and in the
rocky stuff that's closest to home for me, that's what I was trying to
avoid when getting the Stout.

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pkittle said:

I'm not sure if the WW has been put on a muni. But the reviews at mtbr
haven't been favorable--really thin sidewalls, especially, and in the
rocky stuff that's closest to home for me, that's what I was trying to
avoid when getting the Stout.

yeah, that part doesn't sound good 🙁 that would tend to negate the
benefit of the wider profile. oh well

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