Luigi de Guzman said:Badger_South said:On 11 Jul 2004 17:27:15 -0700, [email hidden] (Jonathan
Quist) wrote:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:driving and see someone riding on it. Sort of a
counterpoint the the "GET OFF THE STREET!" that some
morons yell...
Jonathan
Don't hollar at me, we have double wide sidewalks here
with bike path signs and easy ramps and divider lines
painted on 'em.
Where are you? I seem to remember you're in
Charlottesville, Va?
Man it's been a while since I've been to Cville, obviously
(if I remember right)
I remember there were bike lanes painted on the *road* on
JPA and JPA extension (I think? My directions are always
muddled when I go visit my friends there). Any rate its'
down by the hospital & behind Cabell Hall. But doublewide
sidewalks??
I don't know how I feel about the whole bicycle segregation
thing. Separate but equal often isn't in America....and I
like riding on the road too much to give the yahoos any
reason to shout me off the road.
-Luigi
Quoted message said:-B
Naw, Hookville is not that great for road riding, I'm on
vacation in Va Bch. with "137 miles of bike trails, or extra
wide highway sections, or double wide sidewalks". You can
get a cool map detailing all the routes, which are in
segments across the city. We have a bunch where my brother
lives, and a nice, if windy 20 mile route that incorporates
these features. you can get a brochure at the Seashore park
ranger station showing them all if supplies last.
The morons in Cville just took the streets (with on street
parking) and striped a 1/2 width bike lane cutting the width
for cars but not providing enough (really) for the bikes.
The city busses cut into them and trophy wives on cell
phones weave into them - it's quite dangerous in places. IOW
the roads are not built for bike trails - they just striped
existing roads, but cut back the standard bike lane width.
(Duh). Go figure.
Used to be a good place to bike when I was doing it back in
school (Uva - CLAS-'72), but now too many cars and SUVs.
Even the back country roads which used to be nice are too
dangerous, IMO, b/c nuts in sports cars and tourists just
fly down the center and around corners and aren't looking.
It's nerve wracking to drive 'em, let alone bike in many of
the places I used to ride in the 60s and 70s.
The nice places in Va Bch have super double wide road lanes
in a few places that are just sweet. I like those the best.
That's why I'm here, visiting, plus riding during the TdF.
It's all good! ;-D
-B
