Wrong shoe type; what symptoms?

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HardwareLust said:

It seems to me as if the store is just trying to get me to buy the shoes
they carry and have in stock instead of what I already have found that I
like.

I doubt it. Any running shoe store will carry several different models of
neutral shoe. They're trying (apparently without that much success) to help
you choose a pair of shoes that suits your running mechanics.

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<< They're trying (apparently without that much success) to help
you choose a pair of shoes that suits your running mechanics.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi >>

O really?

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Quoted message said:

Hey, according to my local running store, I'm using the wrong shoes. They
say that I am a 'moderate pronator', and that I need some type of motion
control. My current shoes (which I like, and are comfortable) are
supposedly designed for 'a more neutral runner'.

So, my question to you is this; if I am running in the 'wrong shoes', what
symptoms must I be on the lookout for?

What kind of mileage are you doing? If it's true you are using the wrong shoe,
it maybe you just aren't running enough miles for it to matter. When I did 5
miles a day or less I could wear neutral shoes, or just about anything, but
over that I need a very specialized shoe. Or it's VERY possible the idiot at
the store knows jack. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Donovan Rebbechi said:

HardwareLust said:

It seems to me as if the store is just trying to get me to buy the
shoes they carry and have in stock instead of what I already have
found that I like.

I doubt it. Any running shoe store will carry several different
models of neutral shoe. They're trying (apparently without that much
success) to help you choose a pair of shoes that suits your running
mechanics.

That very well may be true, but again, how do *I* know that I'm in the wrong
shoes? How are shoes that don't fit my 'running mechanics' going to hurt
me? I mean, what exactly is going to happen to me *physically* by running
in the 'wrong' shoes?

HardwareLust said:

Donovan Rebbechi said:

HardwareLust said:

It seems to me as if the store is just trying to get me to buy the
shoes they carry and have in stock instead of what I already have
found that I like.

I doubt it. Any running shoe store will carry several different
models of neutral shoe. They're trying (apparently without that much
success) to help you choose a pair of shoes that suits your running
mechanics.

That very well may be true, but again, how do *I* know that I'm in the wrong
shoes?

This has been discussed to death. Google for things like pronation, motion
control, stability, and overpronation, and come back with more specific
questions if you have them.

Quoted message said:

How are shoes that don't fit my 'running mechanics' going to hurt
me? I mean, what exactly is going to happen to me *physically* by running
in the 'wrong' shoes?

You may get injured and run less efficiently. Besides that, everything should
be just fine.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

HardwareLust said:

That very well may be true, but again, how do *I* know that I'm in the wrong
shoes? How are shoes that don't fit my 'running mechanics' going to hurt
me? I mean, what exactly is going to happen to me *physically* by running
in the 'wrong' shoes?

potential injury - anywhere from feet up through knees, hips, and back

Getting proper shoes for your feet is one of the most important things
in running - both fit and biomechanics.

Dot

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away. This is about living the dream." - Cave Dog

You may interested in reading this.
http://www.nwfootankle.com/New_Folder/Mar99%20p050-076%20Ropdf.pdf

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Quoted message said:

Hey, according to my local running store, I'm using the wrong shoes. They
say that I am a 'moderate pronator', and that I need some type of motion
control. My current shoes (which I like, and are comfortable) are
supposedly designed for 'a more neutral runner'.

So, my question to you is this; if I am running in the 'wrong shoes', what
symptoms must I be on the lookout for? A particular type of soreness? I

am

Quoted message said:

confused by all this shoe-type geekery. It seems to me as if the store is
just trying to get me to buy the shoes they carry and have in stock

instead

Quoted message said:

of what I already have found that I like.

Regards,
H.

Quoted message said:

So, my question to you is this; if I am running in the 'wrong shoes', what
symptoms must I be on the lookout for?

Sore joints. Your knees may hurt on the insides and front.
Your hips may ache too.

"HardwareLust" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<UTY5d.3887$8H1.1086@trnddc08>...

Quoted message said:

Hey, according to my local running store, I'm using the wrong shoes. They
say that I am a 'moderate pronator', and that I need some type of motion
control. My current shoes (which I like, and are comfortable) are
supposedly designed for 'a more neutral runner'.

So, my question to you is this; if I am running in the 'wrong shoes', what
symptoms must I be on the lookout for? A particular type of soreness? I am
confused by all this shoe-type geekery. It seems to me as if the store is
just trying to get me to buy the shoes they carry and have in stock instead
of what I already have found that I like.

Regards,
H.

Hmmm, let me guess the correct shoes for you are more expensive.

Associating a shoe with a specific injury isn't always easy. I tossed
out a pair of shoes because I thought they were cuasing knee pain in
my right knee. Turns out the injury was caused by my tight muscles and
not stretching after running. Now I'm running injury free in the same
model.

From my experience I'd say that the "wrong" shoe will make itself
known in a matter of weeks of using the shoe on a regular basis. I'd
also expect that you might experience joint pain in numerous joints
rather than one specific one. And that both feet/legs/knees/hips will
have the same or similar injury.

If you are a neutral runner you can probably let your feet tell you
what is comfortable, either the arch is too high or not high enough.
You'll feel that pretty quickly. Hopefully before you leave the store.

Then there is always the possibility of defective shoes. That has
happened to me once.

Sounds to me you fit in the average. Someone who is moderate anything
isn't that far from the average and should be able to work with a
totally neutral shoe.

Hope this helps,
Andy

<< Sounds to me you fit in the average. Someone who is moderate anything
isn't that far from the average and should be able to work with a
totally neutral shoe.

Hope this helps,
Andy >>

Indeed, it does.
But alas, why be average?
Enjoy the buzz --
But keep your body leverage,
Or you'll fall over, everything that wuz
the case...

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amh said:

Hmmm, let me guess the correct shoes for you are more expensive.

Associating a shoe with a specific injury isn't always easy. I tossed
out a pair of shoes because I thought they were cuasing knee pain in
my right knee. Turns out the injury was caused by my tight muscles and
not stretching after running. Now I'm running injury free in the same
model.

From my experience I'd say that the "wrong" shoe will make itself
known in a matter of weeks of using the shoe on a regular basis. I'd
also expect that you might experience joint pain in numerous joints
rather than one specific one. And that both feet/legs/knees/hips will
have the same or similar injury.

If you are a neutral runner you can probably let your feet tell you
what is comfortable, either the arch is too high or not high enough.
You'll feel that pretty quickly. Hopefully before you leave the store.

Then there is always the possibility of defective shoes. That has
happened to me once.

Sounds to me you fit in the average. Someone who is moderate anything
isn't that far from the average and should be able to work with a
totally neutral shoe.

Hope this helps,
Andy

Actually, they weren't more expensive, just a different brand and type. Cost
isn't an issue really.

And, thank you for your comments!! Nice to hear something other than
'search Google'.

Regards,
H.

rick++ said:

Quoted message said:

So, my question to you is this; if I am running in the 'wrong
shoes', what symptoms must I be on the lookout for?

Sore joints. Your knees may hurt on the insides and front.
Your hips may ache too.

Thank you for actually answering my question.

Regards,
H.

Bob Schroedter said:

You may interested in reading this.
http://www.nwfootankle.com/New_Folder/Mar99%20p050-076%20Ropdf.pdf

I didn't read the whole thing word for word, but it seems to suggest that
*all* shoes are bad. So, I gather that you're suggesting I forego shoes
altogether and run barefoot?

I have heard that some people recommend occasionally training barefoot on an
appropriate surface (grass), but I can't see doing that all the time. Road
racing in particular would be pretty tough on the naked foot, no?

Regards,
H.

HardwareLust said:

And, thank you for your comments!! Nice to hear something other than
'search Google'.

[censored]. I gave you 4 specific search terms, which would turn up a
ton of good info and discussion if you were to get off your lazy ass
and type them in, so quit whining.

Cheers,
--
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http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

Quoted message said:

but it seems to suggest that
*all* shoes are bad. So, I gather that you're suggesting I forego shoes
altogether and run barefoot?

Only on trails. Never run barefoot on paved surfaces.

Quoted message said:

Thank you for actually answering my question.

Sorry, but Rick is an idiot, a well-intentioned one, but an idiot nonetheless.
You got no answers because there aren't any clear answers to the question,
it'll be different in different people.

<< [censored]. I gave you 4 specific search terms, which would turn up a
ton of good info and discussion if you were to get off your lazy ass
and type them in, so quit whining.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi >>

Four's good.
Good point.

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<< Sorry, but Rick is an idiot, a well-intentioned one, but an idiot
nonetheless. >>

O, you're just jealous.
Nevertheless, I'm impressed.

<< You got no answers because there aren't any clear answers to the question,
it'll be different in different people. >>

What question?

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