Winter trousers

Paramo. No contest.

"pacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Over the past few years I have been making numerous trips north of the
border to do a spot of winter hillwalking, up to now I have largely
managed to get away with ronhills, occasionally wearing goretex
overtrousers when the need arises.

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers, as i'm a
little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on full display to every
person who passes by me. What do you lot tend to wear in the winter
months? can anyone recommend a decent pair of trousers that won't have
the local female fraternity calling for the police on my next visit to
lochaber???

Maybe the learned mr clinch may be able to help me out here as i value
is sensible views on most subjects that i have come across on the topic
of hillwalking over the years.........over to you pete!

;-)

steve

pacer said:

Over the past few years I have been making numerous trips north of the
border to do a spot of winter hillwalking, up to now I have largely
managed to get away with ronhills, occasionally wearing goretex
overtrousers when the need arises.

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers, as i'm a
little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on full display to
every person who passes by me. What do you lot tend to wear in the
winter months? can anyone recommend a decent pair of trousers that
won't have the local female fraternity calling for the police on my
next visit to lochaber???

Maybe the learned mr clinch may be able to help me out here as i value
is sensible views on most subjects that i have come across on the
topic of hillwalking over the years.........over to you pete!

;-)

steve

I'm off to try on some of these for winter walking http://snipurl.com/j7jd

waterproof, elasticated waist, zipped ankles, non rustling cordura.

news said:

I'm off to try on some of these for winter walking http://snipurl.com/j7jd

waterproof, elasticated waist, zipped ankles, non rustling cordura.

"breathable waterproof drop liner" probably means pretty sweaty and also
means in a downpour the outers will still get very wet and weigh rather
more than usual, giving them a tendency to migrate downwards.

That's based on a picture and one line description, not 1st hand
experience, so ICBW.

Pete.
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Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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pacer said:

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers, as i'm a
little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on full display to every
person who passes by me. What do you lot tend to wear in the winter
months? can anyone recommend a decent pair of trousers that won't have
the local female fraternity calling for the police on my next visit to
lochaber???

Most typically I wear fleece tights, but as these are even tighter than
Tracksters you may well wish to pass on that particular line of
recommendation in light of the above...

In conditions a bit chilly for fleece tights I much prefer the heavier
(but not too heavy!) stretch fabrics, stuff like Schoeller Dryskin or
the more serious Polartec Power Shield (I think that's what our full
winter romper suits are made of, but it's certainly something from
Malden and very, very good).

Stretchy means lots of freedom of movement and because the garment can
be cut close it's typically very thermally efficient and dries faster
than something baggy. Also tends not to rustle, or catch the wind, or
catch the mud to the same extent as most walking trousers.

Paramo's waterproof range is very well liked by many for winter use but
I prefer the freedom of movement and lack of rustling stretch stuff
gives me. Paramo's stretch trousers look interesting but aren't in
their waterproof line. Until I've tried some on I won't comment further.

Rohan have ressurected a Great from their past, the Superstrider
stretchy bombproof walking trouser. It looked very, very good on paper
but trying a pair on they seem to have made them into flares for some
bizarre reason, so 9/10 for the top but nul points from the knees down.
Shame, really...

HTH, Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

On 28 Oct 2005 04:10:48 -0700, "pacer" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Over the past few years I have been making numerous trips north of the
border to do a spot of winter hillwalking, up to now I have largely
managed to get away with ronhills, occasionally wearing goretex
overtrousers when the need arises.

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers, as i'm a
little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on full display to every
person who passes by me. What do you lot tend to wear in the winter
months? can anyone recommend a decent pair of trousers that won't have
the local female fraternity calling for the police on my next visit to
lochaber???

I use Paramo Aspira salopettes or Paramo Viento zip offs. The zip
offs leak after 5 or 10 mins rain.

Bertie Wiggins cycling_remove_bertie@yahoo_dot_co_dot_uk said:

I use Paramo Aspira salopettes or Paramo Viento zip offs. The zip
offs leak after 5 or 10 mins rain.

So do mine (though not as quickly as that). The water seems to get
in through the pockets (at least, I get a soggy handkerchief long
before I can feel water elsewhere), and Paramo tell me I should
wear a longer coat to avoid water trickling in. I haven't tried
that yet.

-adrian

Bertie Wiggins cycling_remove_bertie@yahoo_dot_co_dot_uk said:

I use Paramo Aspira salopettes or Paramo Viento zip offs. The zip
offs leak after 5 or 10 mins rain.

I've never had any problem with my Viento zip-offs leaking, but I
wear a jacket (again the Paramo Viento one) which covers the pockets. I
do find that cotton hankies in the trouser pockets get wet, but that's the
only problem... so far!

Mark
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Mark Manning [email hidden]

pacer said:

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers,
as i'm a little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on
full display to every person who passes by me.

www.codpiece.org ?

i think you may be showing less than you think maybe a bit of wishful
thinking on your part
"pacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Over the past few years I have been making numerous trips north of the
border to do a spot of winter hillwalking, up to now I have largely
managed to get away with ronhills, occasionally wearing goretex
overtrousers when the need arises.

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers, as i'm a
little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on full display to every
person who passes by me. What do you lot tend to wear in the winter
months? can anyone recommend a decent pair of trousers that won't have
the local female fraternity calling for the police on my next visit to
lochaber???

Maybe the learned mr clinch may be able to help me out here as i value
is sensible views on most subjects that i have come across on the topic
of hillwalking over the years.........over to you pete!

;-)

steve

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:43:15 +0200, "Martin Carpenter" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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| "pacer" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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| > However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers,
| > as i'm a little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on
| > full display to every person who passes by me.
|
| www.codpiece.org ?

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pacer said:

Over the past few years I have been making numerous trips north of the
border to do a spot of winter hillwalking, up to now I have largely
managed to get away with ronhills, occasionally wearing goretex
overtrousers when the need arises.

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers, as i'm a
little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on full display to every
person who passes by me. What do you lot tend to wear in the winter
months? can anyone recommend a decent pair of trousers that won't have
the local female fraternity calling for the police on my next visit to
lochaber???

Maybe the learned mr clinch may be able to help me out here as i value
is sensible views on most subjects that i have come across on the topic
of hillwalking over the years.........over to you pete!

;-)

steve

Try looking for Schoeller materials (like at www. mec.ca). This is
stretchy, close fitting (but THAT close!), water resistant, warm and
quick drying. I too was a Ron Hill sort of guy until I discovered these.
Bit too warm for summer tho.

druidh

Dave Fawthrop said:

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please don't top post.

Dave, no offence, but we don't do top-post flames here.
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Mark Manning said:

Bertie Wiggins cycling_remove_bertie@yahoo_dot_co_dot_uk said:

I use Paramo Aspira salopettes or Paramo Viento zip offs. The zip
offs leak after 5 or 10 mins rain.

I've never had any problem with my Viento zip-offs leaking, but I
wear a jacket (again the Paramo Viento one) which covers the pockets. I
do find that cotton hankies in the trouser pockets get wet, but that's the
only problem... so far!

I wear an Aspira Smock. The zip offs leak were the water from the
Smock runs onto the trousers just above the zip off seams.

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Quoted message said:

However I'm now in the market for a pair of winter trousers, as i'm a
little fed up of having my tranklements (groin)on full display to every
person who passes by me. What do you lot tend to wear in the winter
months? can anyone recommend a decent pair of trousers that won't have
the local female fraternity calling for the police on my next visit to
lochaber???

This may sound a bit dense, but I'm not entirely sure I understand the
question. In what way might I be wanting to call the police if I were
to pass you in the hills? Or do you really think that the sight of a
man in wet clingy trousers (is that what you mean) is likely to scare
sensible females? Especially since were I to encounter you in such
circumstances I'd probably be just as wet as you and therefore probably
be a candidate for a 'wet T-shirt' contest[1]...

[1] Yes, yes, OK. Those who've met me will know perfectly well that
I'd never bother entering any such contest. The urw-er who described me
as 'no beauty' (and yes, I /do/ remember who it was!) was being neither
rude nor inaccurate :-)
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Bertie Wiggins cycling_remove_bertie@yahoo_dot_co_dot_uk said:

I wear an Aspira Smock. The zip offs leak were the water from the
Smock runs onto the trousers just above the zip off seams.

So maybe Paramo tends to leak if subjected to water concentrated in
one region rather than more gently all over ? I suppose that makes
sense if it's relying on pumping action to shift the water outward -
it's probably a fairly limited effect.

Is the DWR treatment still effective ? If not, have you tried renewing it ?

-adrian

Adrian Godwin said:

Bertie Wiggins cycling_remove_bertie@yahoo_dot_co_dot_uk said:

I wear an Aspira Smock. The zip offs leak were the water from the
Smock runs onto the trousers just above the zip off seams.

So maybe Paramo tends to leak if subjected to water concentrated in
one region rather than more gently all over ? I suppose that makes
sense if it's relying on pumping action to shift the water outward -
it's probably a fairly limited effect.

Is the DWR treatment still effective ? If not, have you tried renewing it ?

They leaked first time in rain. I wore them several times in snow
before that, so there wasn't much I could do. I'll try reproofing
them in the spring, until spring I'll probably be in salopettes.

Bertie Wiggins <cycling_remove_bertie@yahoo_dot_co_dot_uk.?.invalid>
wrote

Quoted message said:

Adrian Godwin said:

Bertie Wiggins cycling_remove_bertie@yahoo_dot_co_dot_uk said:

I wear an Aspira Smock. The zip offs leak were the water from the
Smock runs onto the trousers just above the zip off seams.

So maybe Paramo tends to leak if subjected to water concentrated in
one region rather than more gently all over ? I suppose that makes
sense if it's relying on pumping action to shift the water outward -
it's probably a fairly limited effect.

Is the DWR treatment still effective ? If not, have you tried renewing it ?

They leaked first time in rain. I wore them several times in snow
before that, so there wasn't much I could do. I'll try reproofing
them in the spring, until spring I'll probably be in salopettes.

So now we're back to Paramo Cascada. They don't leak, unless you sit
in a puddle.
--
Gordon Harris

Gordon said:

So now we're back to Paramo Cascada. They don't leak, unless you sit
in a puddle.

Just back from the usual rain-soaked Snowdonia mountains. Once again the
Cascadas proved their worth, being incredibly comfortable and waterproof.
The weather was quite warm and, during the dry moments, the trouser zips
gave all the ventilation you would like.

Oh, and yes, I did sit on some damp surfaces with no ill effects. I resisted
the temptation to sit in a real puddle though!

Had an interesting exchange with a Paramo salesman at Stewart Cunningham's
in Betwys. He was there preparing for a 'special event' on Saturday. I
suggested that what I wanted was some of their summer trousers with zip
offs. Nick doesn't believe in zip-offs, he replied! Come on Paramo, get a
grip!

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Birmingham, UK

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Gordon said:

So now we're back to Paramo Cascada. They don't leak, unless you sit
in a puddle.

It would be useful to know, though, if the Vientos are substantially
less waterproof than the Cascadas, as it appears. As far as I can tell
from the Paramo website, they're basically very similar except for the
extra leg zips (which are protected by a waterproof flap).

-adrian