winter to summer advice

Hamish said:

Hi there,

I am wondering whats going to happen when I go from a winter training
routine in Europe (usually about zero centigrade when I train) to a

race in

Quoted message said:

summer in the Southern Hemisphere (NZ). I have three days to adjust

to the

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expected 15-30 degrees heat at the tail end of summer. Am I likely

to

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improve my times, or is it going to be much harder? Does anyone know

where

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I can read more on this online? Every search come up with tips on

clothes

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to wear in winter but not really what I want!

The race is some 26km consisting of mountain work (5km) and river

flats

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(21km). I have been training between 5km and 20km on the flat here

for the

Quoted message said:

last three months, usually go out about 2-5 times a week depending on
weather and free time.

3 days will not be long enough to get fully acclimated. You might
consider things such as running indoors on a treadmill with extra
clothing to simultate the expected conditions.

This site has some good information heat training:
http://www.zunis.org/index.html
Or more specifically:
http://www.zunis.org/see_how_they_run.htm

Phil M.

Phil M. said:

You might
consider things such as running indoors on a treadmill with extra
clothing to simultate the expected conditions.

running indoors is bad enough.

inconstant moon
the moon at perigee and apogee
sci fiction stories Larry Niven
inconstant moon
full moon allways the same...wrong...
not conjured by the imagination of larry niven.
discover in it a celestial phenomenon seen by everybody yet obseved by
only a few individuals.
moon's orbit around the earth is elliptial.
of 5.49%
tidal effects
sun gravitatioal field increases
major axis sun earth vector
extremes values for perigee and apogee
distance occur

fourmilab.ch

1987 aug 1008 00
juilian day 2447017.83
moon age 15 days 19 hours phase 98%
perigee 1987 aug 8 19:00
357643 Km

other words dude 18½ year cycle moon.
today.
figure est 14°07' terminator 35900Km
angle sub 0.5548
alt 60°.16
azu 68°.13
apogee 1988 feb 20:6:00
juilian day 2447193.75
moon age 14 days 5 hours
99%
full 1988 feb 2 20:52

simple
came from around 0° 0° area to line of travel now........
the moon just ahead of the sun dark line past africa moveing towards
u.s.a. or south america brazil. then today feb 17 2005.

point is the same today as back then
feb 17 2005
feb 8 1987
feb 2 1988
or about.
sun in s above pacific ten

irs satilite above south mag pole maybe nano teck. big money winner
for 2005 maybe........

2 years 3 month 1 week and 1 day with no job unemployment or anything.
ride to pick up 10¢ cans.
food good I need a bath...latter
a backyard sky gazer is all.not a pro....

Try
Corned beef?

"inconstant moon
the moon at perigee and apogee
sci fiction stories Larry Niven
inconstant moon
full moon allways the same...wrong...
not conjured by the imagination of larry niven.
discover in it a celestial phenomenon seen by everybody yet obseved by
only a few individuals.
moon's orbit around the earth is elliptial.
of 5.49%
tidal effects
sun gravitatioal field increases
major axis sun earth vector
extremes values for perigee and apogee
distance occur

fourmilab.ch

1987 aug 1008 00
juilian day 2447017.83
moon age 15 days 19 hours phase 98%
perigee 1987 aug 8 19:00
357643 Km

2 years 3 month 1 week and 1 day with no job unemployment or anything.
ride to pick up 10¢ cans.
food good I need a bath...latter
a backyard sky gazer is all.not a pro.... "
~ Exeter Carefull

"Exeter?
How do you eat,
Are you warm at night?
Who cares for you, who holds you tight?
Who heals, when you ail?
How do you pay your internet bill?
Has someone let you down,
Forgotten your homeless state, your common needs?
Are you okay?"
~ Twittering

Hamish

Quoted message said:

Hi there,

I am wondering whats going to happen when I go from a winter training
routine in Europe (usually about zero centigrade when I train) to a race in
summer in the Southern Hemisphere (NZ). I have three days to adjust to the
expected 15-30 degrees heat at the tail end of summer. Am I likely to
improve my times, or is it going to be much harder?

Unless you're a person that generally does better in the heat (or poorly
in the cooler temps), most likely you will find it harder.

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Does anyone know where
I can read more on this online?

Besides what Phil posted,
http://www.coachr.org/heattraining.htm
has an interesting discussion.

Dot

--
"You try to slow down and enjoy it. You try to look at the scenery. But
your brain can kind of go blank. All you want to do is tell your feet to
keep working."
-Cedar Petrosius, women's winner 2004 Matanuska Peak Challenge (14mi,
9000ft up and down)

The Bad Place
every eye sees it's own special vision:
every ear hears a most different song.
in each man's troubled heart, an incision would reveal a unique, shamful
wrong.
stranger friends hide here in human guise then reside in the vallys of
Hell.
but, goodness, kindness and love arise in the heart of the poor beast,
as well.

the book of counted sorrows.

coffee is good.
Legislation turn down the 389 ³³ $ bill of lady Gov.
so maybe 35,000 Natinal guards men and the coffee remains in the prisons
here in the great lake states.
now that [censored] on the rag or what.....

Who am I.?

I am fine twitter.......
what to do? ether 2- 28 miles this week
and tie 98.......
or 2 14 miles and tie 98......fo week.
waiting for this BAM.....

The Bad place,,,,,dean koontz
and abbs works need bad place...
What to do. coffee for now. 0°k temps
winds to 18 m.p.h.
snow. feels good.
2 winter sleeping bags in a 72 trailer and a cord for v.c.r.,t.v. and a
hot plate and small heater just to keep water chill down.
animals on farm can do it. why can't I....
98.6 temps maybe and skin that freezes....a human pop cicle.

Hay if worried about runnng in warm weather.....ride a bike.
left my wife on this moon. this year.......
the bad place to come.......
not to worry i not mental.......
sha zing.........

violins in back ground and a black cat on the street of her name.. snow
sting some on face a hill of 1800 feet to hike now ..and most be
whole 1800 feet i say......and trees are moan ing.....what next a which
on the courner name sable with her lable......
running after kids..... if you see her send her to wattles tree in
holler valley near pee ridge and bring a scrub brush and bucket.......
not the kids......
Lowtuc

I live in a mid-latitude location where we have a few days of spring
weather
intermixed with generally cold winter. My first run in shorts and
teeshirt
always fews a bit liberating after wearing heavier winter gear.
I dont know if the lightr clothes, or the feeling of direct sun and
wind
on the skin.

"The Bad Place
every eye sees it's own special vision:
every ear hears a most different song.
in each man's troubled heart, an incision would reveal a unique,
shamful
wrong.
stranger friends hide here in human guise then reside in the vallys of
Hell.
but, goodness, kindness and love arise in the heart of the poor beast,
as well.

the book of counted sorrows.

coffee is good.
Legislation turn down the 389 ³³ $ bill of lady Gov.
so maybe 35,000 Natinal guards men and the coffee remains in the
prisons
here in the great lake states.
now that [censored] on the rag or what.....

Who am I.?

I am fine twitter....... "
~ Exeter

"Exeter ~
Twttering's glad you're fine. But
Twittering's not."
~ Twttering

"Exeter?
Do you live in The Disenchanted Forest?
Do you live in The Book of Counted Sorrows?
Do you know The Bad Place?
Your special eye, what every eye sees,
What is your own special vision?
What song, what every ear hears,
Is your most different, your very own song?
If your heart's troubled, and we open you up,
What unique, shameful
Wrong would we find?
And here, this strange forest,
What stranger friends hide here, in human guise,
Or animal?
Do others also live here,
What you call The Valleys of Hell?
And how, Exeter
Does goodness, kindness, and love
Arise in the heart of the poor beast,
And me, too?
Anyway, Exeter,
I hope you're swell.
Have you seen Leonardo?
He may require his gym sock sweater ~ A chilly
Dog often, He!
And, too, know! A brand-new bone
Have I for Leonardo!"
Love,
~ Twittering

"O, seen my paradiddle?"
~ Twittering

\ ~ Pastel
Phontistry * Paradigm \+

Phonon ~ A quantum of vibrational or acoustic
Energy in a crystal lattice.

Phonoreception ~ The perception of or
Response to high-frequency vibration,
Especially sound waves.

Paradiddle ~ A drum roll in which left
And right

~ * !

....my drumsticks alternate,
When my Paradiddle paddles my bark."
~ Twittering

Thanks Phil, Dot and Rick,

As you might guess, I am not a too serious a competitor, just wondering if
there were any real problems doing what I plan. I will take a bit more
fluid than originally planned and pay attention to dehydration/heat effects.
Slow and easy I will take it.

Cheers,

Hamish

"Hamish com>" <oldmanbates@email<dot> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi there,

I am wondering whats going to happen when I go from a winter training
routine in Europe (usually about zero centigrade when I train) to a race

in

Quoted message said:

summer in the Southern Hemisphere (NZ). I have three days to adjust to

the

Quoted message said:

expected 15-30 degrees heat at the tail end of summer. Am I likely to
improve my times, or is it going to be much harder? Does anyone know

where

Quoted message said:

I can read more on this online? Every search come up with tips on clothes
to wear in winter but not really what I want!

The race is some 26km consisting of mountain work (5km) and river flats
(21km). I have been training between 5km and 20km on the flat here for

the

Quoted message said:

last three months, usually go out about 2-5 times a week depending on
weather and free time.

Kind regards and thanks in advance,

Hamish

Leafing through rec.running, I read a message from
oldmanbates@email-dot-com of 20 Feb 2005:

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Thanks Phil, Dot and Rick,

As you might guess, I am not a too serious a competitor, just
wondering if there were any real problems doing what I plan. I will
take a bit more fluid than originally planned and pay attention to
dehydration/heat effects. Slow and easy I will take it.

You mentioned that the race would be at 15-30C. I think that if it stays in
the 15-18C range, you should be OK. Anything above 18C will necessarily
slow you down, especially if you haven't trained in such conditions. Also,
you should train your body to process as much fluid as possible. So if you
do run on an indoor treadmill and/or wear extra clothing you should also
practice carrying and drinking extra fluid. Preferably something with the
proper ratio of fluids, carbs, and electrolytes. Also, find out what if
anything will be served at the aid stations. You will want to practice
running while drinking the same fluids. Specificity of training is key,
IMO.

Phil M.