Wind noise abatement

Bose noise-cancelling headphones. They don't fit over a helmet though.
--
Ron Hardin
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On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Earplugs don't make you "effectively deaf" I've worn ear protection for
years in numerous places and conditions. They reduce the volume of sound by
xx decibles. They don't eliminate sound. Yes, you can't hear softer sounds,
but you can hear 'normal' sounds (the sound of a person talking) easily. I
doubt that they will eliminate the wind noise that you hear .. it will still
be there, but at a reduced volume.

There was one kind of earplug that I would NOT recommend (don't know if they
still sell it) that had a opening to the 'outside world' and a valve that
closed when sharp, loud sounds occured (gunshots). They actually
*increased* the wind noise heard when worn outdoors.

--
Richard Amirault N1JDU
Boston, MA, USA Go Fly A Kite
"Alfred Ryder" wrote ...

Quoted message said:

Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding? I have
eliminated
every other discomfort of riding and feel better after three hard hours on
the bike than at the start. But the wind roars in my ears. Not because I
go
so fast but, I think, because my ears are so big. I even wonder if the
noise
is slowly damaging my hearing. It certainly is more pleasant when riding
with the wind, say on a slow climb.

Ear plugs probably would work but have the unacceptable side effect of
rendering me effectively deaf. Is there a headband that would not look too
dorky and would not be too hot in the summer?

Is anyone else bothered by wind noise? Has anyone found a solution?

"Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding? I have
eliminated
every other discomfort of riding and feel better after three hard hours on
the bike than at the start. But the wind roars in my ears. Not because I
go
so fast but, I think, because my ears are so big. I even wonder if the
noise
is slowly damaging my hearing. It certainly is more pleasant when riding
with the wind, say on a slow climb.

Ear plugs probably would work but have the unacceptable side effect of
rendering me effectively deaf. Is there a headband that would not look too
dorky and would not be too hot in the summer?

Is anyone else bothered by wind noise? Has anyone found a solution?

try 'hearos high fidelity' earplugs, cost about $15us
i use them when rehersing / gigging with my band and also while riding.
(they are washable & reusable)
they cut the level of noise, but you can still hear everything (including
the click of my shifters)

I find the effect of wind noise over a 5-6 hour ride is about the same as
playing loud music in a smallish rehersal room🙁

"Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding? I have
eliminated
every other discomfort of riding and feel better after three hard hours on
the bike than at the start. But the wind roars in my ears. Not because I
go
so fast but, I think, because my ears are so big. I even wonder if the
noise
is slowly damaging my hearing. It certainly is more pleasant when riding
with the wind, say on a slow climb.

Ear plugs probably would work but have the unacceptable side effect of
rendering me effectively deaf. Is there a headband that would not look too
dorky and would not be too hot in the summer?

Is anyone else bothered by wind noise? Has anyone found a solution?

You probably have done this already but, have you tightened the strap on
your helmet. I know, big assumption on my part that you wear a helmet, but
when I tightened my strap a lot of the wind noise went away.

Hey, I've got big ears too, which is like riding with two open parachutes at
times. But, I found that putting two small pieces from a cotton ball into
my ears keeps the canals warm and reduces wind-howl. I can still hear
traffic and other important noises with no problem. I even used cotton in
the summer because I liked the quiter ride.

"Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding? I have

eliminated

Quoted message said:

every other discomfort of riding and feel better after three hard hours on
the bike than at the start. But the wind roars in my ears. Not because I

go

Quoted message said:

so fast but, I think, because my ears are so big. I even wonder if the

noise

Quoted message said:

is slowly damaging my hearing. It certainly is more pleasant when riding
with the wind, say on a slow climb.

Ear plugs probably would work but have the unacceptable side effect of
rendering me effectively deaf. Is there a headband that would not look too
dorky and would not be too hot in the summer?

Is anyone else bothered by wind noise? Has anyone found a solution?

"Frank Drackman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding?

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is anyone else bothered by wind noise? Has anyone found a solution?

You probably have done this already but, have you tightened the strap on
your helmet. I know, big assumption on my part that you wear a helmet,

but

Quoted message said:

when I tightened my strap a lot of the wind noise went away.

Thanks for the suggestion. I do wear a helmet although I have been convinced
by this news group that it is about as effective as wearing a tinfoil hat to
protect me from cosmic rays. But when I take it off to let yellow jackets
out during a ride, the wind noise continues unchanged while it is off.

"Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding? ...
Ear plugs probably would work but have the unacceptable side effect of
rendering me effectively deaf. ...

i want some of those earplugs. all the ones i try let in way more sound
than i want to hear.

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Is anyone else bothered by wind noise? Has anyone found a solution?

it's not just wind noise, it's traffic noise too. some of my routes
parallel highways with truck traffic going by at 70 mph. that gets annoying
real quick. i usually just use foam plugs. they definitely cut a
noticeable amount of noise and they do not render me deaf.

"Dej" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding?

<snip>

Quoted message said:

try 'hearos high fidelity' earplugs, cost about $15us
i use them when rehersing / gigging with my band and also while riding.
(they are washable & reusable)
they cut the level of noise, but you can still hear everything (including
the click of my shifters)

I find the effect of wind noise over a 5-6 hour ride is about the same as
playing loud music in a smallish rehersal room🙁

Thanks for the reference. I did not know about high fidelity ear plugs. I
also will recommend them to my jazz playing son.

By the way, my assumption is that not everyone's ears cause a wind roar. And
what possible evolutionary advantage would such a noise have? Wouldn't it be
a distinct disadvantage to a carnivore when hunting or when in combat?

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:59:55 GMT, "Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote:

<SNIP>

Quoted message said:

Thanks for the reference. I did not know about high fidelity ear plugs. I
also will recommend them to my jazz playing son.

By the way, my assumption is that not everyone's ears cause a wind roar. And
what possible evolutionary advantage would such a noise have? Wouldn't it be
a distinct disadvantage to a carnivore when hunting or when in combat?

Since most land mammal predators hunt in a slow stealth mode until prey is
visually locked on to, the wind noise caused by running would not be much of a
disadvantage. Additionally, many of them can pin their ears down when it's
helpful - such as in combat.

Ben

"Ben Kaufman" wrote: (clip) Additionally, many of them can pin their ears
down when it's helpful - such as in combat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, why don't you try "pinning" your ears back, say with adhesive tape, and
see whether it helps. It might actually work, since it will smooth the air
flow over your ears.

"Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Ben Kaufman" wrote: (clip) Additionally, many of them can pin their ears
down when it's helpful - such as in combat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, why don't you try "pinning" your ears back, say with adhesive tape,
and see whether it helps. It might actually work, since it will smooth
the air flow over your ears.

Don't do it! Marco did it and we all know what happened to him.

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:12:41 GMT, "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]>

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"Ben Kaufman" wrote: (clip) Additionally, many of them can pin their ears
down when it's helpful - such as in combat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, why don't you try "pinning" your ears back, say with adhesive tape, and
see whether it helps. It might actually work, since it will smooth the air
flow over your ears.

I wasn't the one with the problem. My ears don't stick out much. :-)
I don't notice too much air noise unless I'm doing close to 30.

Ben

Alfred Ryder said:

"Dej" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Alfred Ryder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Any suggestions for reducing the wind noise while riding?

<snip>

Quoted message said:

try 'hearos high fidelity' earplugs, cost about $15us
i use them when rehersing / gigging with my band and also while riding.
(they are washable & reusable)
they cut the level of noise, but you can still hear everything (including
the click of my shifters)

I find the effect of wind noise over a 5-6 hour ride is about the same as
playing loud music in a smallish rehersal room🙁

Thanks for the reference. I did not know about high fidelity ear plugs. I
also will recommend them to my jazz playing son.

By the way, my assumption is that not everyone's ears cause a wind roar. And
what possible evolutionary advantage would such a noise have? Wouldn't it be
a distinct disadvantage to a carnivore when hunting or when in combat?

Keep in mind that humans didn't evolve in constant 15mph+ wind tunnels.
People also have omnidirectional ears because we've evolved from animals
that *were* the meal. Hunting wasn't easy to do until sharp tools were
invented. Have you also noticed that animals that hunt, like dogs and
cats, have fur inside their ears, which does cut wind noise a little.
Don't you wish you had fur in your ears? Oh, maybe not. Earplugs should
suffice, eh?

Collin said:

Don't you wish you had fur in your ears?

Ewww. (Visions of weird old guys outside liquor stores)

--
BS (no, really)

Alfred Ryder said:

Ear plugs probably would work but have the unacceptable side effect of
rendering me effectively deaf. Is there a headband that would not look too
dorky and would not be too hot in the summer?

Ah. You put conditions on it. I wear a thin headband when
it's cold enough but not too cold to ride, and losing the
wind noise is a nice side benefit.

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Is anyone else bothered by wind noise? Has anyone found a solution?

Turn up the music, or stop worrying how dorky you look.

--Blair
"I mean, you're already wearing
padded spandex knickers, the tightest
shirt you or any of your neighbors owns,
gloves with the fingers cut off, peds,
ballet slippers, and you have a shiny
polycarbonate mixing bowl on your head...
I say, live a little."

Ron Hardin said:

Bose noise-cancelling headphones. They don't fit over a helmet though.

I used to have a pair that were ear-buds.

They cancel some (mostly low-frequency hum) noise, but
insert others (a slight hiss), and get confused by random
noise like the wind, so they'd probably not be as good as
streamlining your ear opening is.

--Blair
"Hey. You could pipe in the sound
of a tailwind."

Quoted message said:

Have you also noticed that animals that hunt, like dogs and
cats, have fur inside their ears, which does cut wind noise a little.
Don't you wish you had fur in your ears? Oh, maybe not. Earplugs should
suffice, eh?

Fur in your ears is a good idea. The same as fur in your nose, it
keeps foreign stuff out. Have you ever had a bee crawl inside you ear,
down the canal? It can drive you nearly insane.

As far as earplugs, and with regard to an earlier post, some earplugs
do indeed make you deaf for all practical purposes. The foam kind that
you roll between your fingers then insert into the ear canal, then let
them expand, reduce your hearing to virtually zero if installed
correctly.

Greg