wind cancels race

bjorn said:

I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

I'm sure it's happened, but I've never heard of it. Benjo will
probably be able to list the instances, wind speeds and directions.

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http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

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From that article:

"The money which would be awarded to the stage winner will now be
given to the family of Isaac Gálvez Lopez, who died after a crash at
the Ghent six-day last year."

Kudos to the g(h)ent(s) that came up with that idea!

R

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I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

bjorn
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Hi...

I've been lurking for a while. My son races, and I'm a loooooong retired
USCF race official who used to live in El Paso. The winds there can be
extremely treacherous. Wanna climb a mountain with a 40 or 50 mph headwind
with gusts past 60?

Don't know if the rules have changed since my last officiating 20 years ago,
but back then cancelling a race because of winds was always at the
discretion of the chief referee. When wind conditions were extreme, my
personal policy was to make a unilateral decision (or concur with my
officials) on lower category races, then talk to the elite cyclists about
whether they wanted to go ahead with the race. But I will add that if wind
conditions had ever been so severe there was danger of blowing the peloton
over the side of a mountain, no way I'd think twice about cancelling. But
it's pretty rare for wind conditions to be that bad. The case cited here
must have been pretty extreme.

Caroline

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Quoted message said:

I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

Quoted message said:

http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

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bjorn
www.procyclingpress.com

Hi...

I've been lurking for a while. My son races, and I'm a loooooong retired
USCF race official who used to live in El Paso. The winds there can be
extremely treacherous. Wanna climb a mountain with a 40 or 50 mph headwind
with gusts past 60?

I would prefer a tailwind in that case 🙂

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Don't know if the rules have changed since my last officiating 20 years ago,
but back then cancelling a race because of winds was always at the
discretion of the chief referee. When wind conditions were extreme, my
personal policy was to make a unilateral decision (or concur with my
officials) on lower category races, then talk to the elite cyclists about
whether they wanted to go ahead with the race. But I will add that if wind
conditions had ever been so severe there was danger of blowing the peloton
over the side of a mountain, no way I'd think twice about cancelling. But
it's pretty rare for wind conditions to be that bad. The case cited here
must have been pretty extreme.

Thanks for your answer. It was extreme. The wind speeds have been
reported between 100km/h (American/British sources) and 130km/h
(German sources).. That's between about 62mph and 80 mph..

bjorn

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Caroline

On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

I don't know. My club cancelled a race a few years ago due to fog.
And the same day another event in the US was cancelled due to
lightning.

I've seen races delayed or interrupted due to wind knocking down trees
or powerlines.
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

I don't know. My club cancelled a race a few years ago due to fog.
And the same day another event in the US was cancelled due to
lightning.

I've seen races delayed or interrupted due to wind knocking down trees
or powerlines.

i once made a special effort to go spectate at a race that ended up
being canceled by.........rain.

grrr 🙁

h

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Caroline said:

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Quoted message said:

I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

Quoted message said:

http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

Quoted message said:

bjorn
www.procyclingpress.com

Hi...

I've been lurking for a while. My son races, and I'm a loooooong retired
USCF race official who used to live in El Paso. The winds there can be
extremely treacherous. Wanna climb a mountain with a 40 or 50 mph
headwind
with gusts past 60?

I would prefer a tailwind in that case 🙂

I never worried about guys with a headwind going UP the mountain. However,
that kind of a tail wind going down the mountains was scary. VERY
scary....! '-)

Caroline

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

I don't know. My club cancelled a race a few years ago due to fog.
And the same day another event in the US was cancelled due to
lightning.

I've seen races delayed or interrupted due to wind knocking down trees
or powerlines.

Sissies! ;-)

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

Steve

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
happened due to wind before?

http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

I don't know. My club cancelled a race a few years ago due to fog.
And the same day another event in the US was cancelled due to
lightning.

I've seen races delayed or interrupted due to wind knocking down trees
or powerlines.

Sissies! ;-)

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

You know, the latest Rivendell Reader has an interview with Andy Hampsten
and in it he mentions that there was a car mostly up the Gavia with long
pants and winter clothing. Strange, I don't remember that.

Also in Bobke, Bob Roll said that he was handed a jacket and told to catch
Andy and give it to him. Roll actually caught Hampsten and passed the jacket
on. Roll was also one of the very few to actually finish that stage.

It would be nice if someone would print exactly what really happened.

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>
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Quoted message said:

> I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
> happened due to wind before?

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Quoted message said:

>http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't know. My club cancelled a race a few years ago due to fog.
And the same day another event in the US was cancelled due to
lightning.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've seen races delayed or interrupted due to wind knocking down trees
or powerlines.

Quoted message said:

Sissies! ;-)

Quoted message said:

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

You know, the latest Rivendell Reader has an interview with Andy Hampsten
and in it he mentions that there was a car mostly up the Gavia with long
pants and winter clothing. Strange, I don't remember that.

Also in Bobke, Bob Roll said that he was handed a jacket and told to catch
Andy and give it to him. Roll actually caught Hampsten and passed the jacket
on. Roll was also one of the very few to actually finish that stage.

It would be nice if someone would print exactly what really happened.

Roll was there and was quite specific - mentioned that Hampsten was
shocked to see him back up at the front with the clothing. Don't see
why it has to be an either/or situation. Maybe the car with winter
clothing was an entrepreneur trying to make a few bucks.

On a nauseating note: http://www.biztactics.com/bullet-rivendell-bikes.php

R

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

> I have heard of stages shortened/canceled du to snow. Has it ever
> happened due to wind before?
>
> http://www.cyclingpost.com/other/article_004338.shtml

I don't know. My club cancelled a race a few years ago due to fog.
And the same day another event in the US was cancelled due to
lightning.

I've seen races delayed or interrupted due to wind knocking down trees
or powerlines.

Sissies! ;-)

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

You know, the latest Rivendell Reader has an interview with Andy Hampsten
and in it he mentions that there was a car mostly up the Gavia with long
pants and winter clothing. Strange, I don't remember that.

Also in Bobke, Bob Roll said that he was handed a jacket and told to catch
Andy and give it to him. Roll actually caught Hampsten and passed the jacket
on. Roll was also one of the very few to actually finish that stage.

It would be nice if someone would print exactly what really happened.

Is there a reason you doubt the multiple reports by Hampsten?

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=1827

"When we left it was just rainingŠ kind of sleet-rain, but bucketing
down. We went over the Aprica pass, a category 2 with a pretty short
descent, but even on that descent I was wearing ALL the warm clothes I
could possibly put on. I was shaking uncontrollably on that silly little
descent."

"My team was taking really good care of me bringing me hot tea every 5
km, we had a big thermos, our team was really well prepared."

"I like dirt I really like riding on dirt roads, I was kind of having
fun (he chuckles). It wasn¹t gravelly or chunky, it was a good dirt
road, no potholes. A perfectly fine dirt road to ride your bike on, soft
enough that I could see my tires were leaving imprints, so quite a bit
of resistance, but technically nothing challenging. Which was wonderful,
because over the top I was testing to see if it was icy, and it wasn¹t.
It was just slush on top of a very wet dirt road, so it wasn¹t ever very
dangerous..."

***

I was going to quote more, but I encourage you to read the rest of the
lovely story there. He mentions a musette bag of warm, dry clothes he
got 2 km from the top of the climb, and it has a photo of him being
followed by a vehicle (team, media, official...there's no telling).

It's a great narrative.

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Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Steven Bornfeld said:

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

It almost looks like he's going to win that stage.

--
E. Dronkert

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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>
> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

You know, the latest Rivendell Reader has an interview with Andy Hampsten
and in it he mentions that there was a car mostly up the Gavia with long
pants and winter clothing. Strange, I don't remember that.

Also in Bobke, Bob Roll said that he was handed a jacket and told to catch
Andy and give it to him. Roll actually caught Hampsten and passed the jacket
on. Roll was also one of the very few to actually finish that stage.

It would be nice if someone would print exactly what really happened.

Roll was there and was quite specific - mentioned that Hampsten was
shocked to see him back up at the front with the clothing. Don't see
why it has to be an either/or situation. Maybe the car with winter
clothing was an entrepreneur trying to make a few bucks.

On a nauseating note: http://www.biztactics.com/bullet-rivendell-bikes.php

In what way? Because they sell nice bikes to a small number of
customers? I can't wait to hear what you have to say about that jerk
Richard Sachs...

I think that biztactics interpretation of the Rivendell business model
is a bit tendentious.

I'm not in the market for a Rivendell (my biggest objection being that,
well, I bought a 20-year-old steel Miyata tourer last year, and it only
cost $20), but I do understand what is in it for the buyers. And it's
not just scarcity.

Actually, that biztactics stuff is pretty interesting.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Steven Bornfeld said:

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

It almost looks like he's going to win that stage.

Troll!

Bob Schwartz

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Quoted message said:

It almost looks like he's going to win that stage.

Bob Schwartz said:

Troll!

You're just jealous of real humans because if one of your bots trolled
itself, it would end up in an infinite loop.

Ryan Cousineau said:

RicodJour said:

On a nauseating note: http://www.biztactics.com/bullet-rivendell-bikes.php

In what way? Because they sell nice bikes to a small number of
customers? I can't wait to hear what you have to say about that jerk
Richard Sachs...

I think that biztactics interpretation of the Rivendell business model
is a bit tendentious.

I'm not in the market for a Rivendell (my biggest objection being that,
well, I bought a 20-year-old steel Miyata tourer last year, and it only
cost $20), but I do understand what is in it for the buyers. And it's
not just scarcity.

Actually, that biztactics stuff is pretty interesting.

I didn't poke around on the biztactics site. I just ran across the
article on Rivendell and thought, as you noted, that it was a very
slanted view. Frankly, I don't know enough about Rivendell to know
how they stoke demand. The first couple of paragraphs contain enough
inanity to pretty much dismiss the author's viewpoint. A $1300
bike?! Omigawd!!!

I'm surprised you think Richard Sachs is a jerk... {ducking} 😉

R

On Mar 9, 2:57 am, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

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Steven Bornfeld said:

http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

It almost looks like he's going to win that stage.

That's not a stage. That's the Iditarod. You can't see the dogs due
to the snow.

R

Ryan Cousineau said:

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RicodJour said:

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> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
>> On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:04 -0800, "bjorn" <[email hidden]>
>> wrote:
>http://personal3.iddeo.es/ferpuig/gavia.jpg

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You know, the latest Rivendell Reader has an interview with Andy Hampsten
and in it he mentions that there was a car mostly up the Gavia with long
pants and winter clothing. Strange, I don't remember that.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Also in Bobke, Bob Roll said that he was handed a jacket and told to catch
Andy and give it to him. Roll actually caught Hampsten and passed thejacket
on. Roll was also one of the very few to actually finish that stage.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It would be nice if someone would print exactly what really happened.

Quoted message said:

Roll was there and was quite specific - mentioned that Hampsten was
shocked to see him back up at the front with the clothing. Don't see
why it has to be an either/or situation. Maybe the car with winter
clothing was an entrepreneur trying to make a few bucks.

Quoted message said:

On a nauseating note: http://www.biztactics.com/bullet-rivendell-bikes..php

In what way? Because they sell nice bikes to a small number of
customers? I can't wait to hear what you have to say about that jerkRichard Sachs...

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Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

In what way? Because they sell nice bikes to a small number of
customers? I can't wait to hear what you have to say about that jerkRichard Sachs...

e-RICHIE said:

wtf did i do to get under your skin?

You sold him a re-badged Bianchi with a EU warranty ?

Donald Munro said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

Quoted message said:

In what way? Because they sell nice bikes to a small number of
customers? I can't wait to hear what you have to say about that jerkRichard Sachs...

e-RICHIE said:

wtf did i do to get under your skin?

You sold him a re-badged Bianchi with a EU warranty ?

that was in college and we were half in the bag.
statute of limitations, and all that...
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