Will this supplement work?

Who knows, but it looks as though it would make a good
curry. Why bother with Testosterone unless you have known
low levels based on tests?

Quoted message said:

I have taken the supplement that is supposed to increase
the Testosterone level; this supplement includes:

Methoxyisoflavone 200 mg Quercetin 140 mg Ipriflavone 20 mg
Chrysin 20 mg 40 Naringenin 20 mg Tribulus terrestris 500
mg Avena sativa Extract (leaf) 25 mg Urtica dioica Extract
(root) 25 mg

Now, what I am concerned about are flavones. I think they
could actually increase the production of estrogen (i.e. do
something opposite of what this supplement is supposed to
do!) based on this study:

ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgiOpen ↗
&db=PubMed&list_uids= 9751507&dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000

What do you think? Am I reading it wrong or this supplement
is a counterproductive mix of testosterone- and estrogen-
potentiating components?

Thanks in advance.

for extra T, eat oysters. they are mad high in zinc

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Quoted message said:

Who knows, but it looks as though it would make a good
curry. Why bother with Testosterone unless you have known
low levels based on tests?

Well, you do not know whether I measured it or not. Still,
you come up with this ridiculous statement about curry.
What's wrong with you - don't you have anything better to
do? If you can say anything intelligent and are ready to
share your knowlegde, please do. If you want to make wise
remarks, be aware that you look like a teenage dork.

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<[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Greetings, I have taken the supplement that is supposed to
increase the Testosterone level; this supplement includes:

Methoxyisoflavone 200 mg Quercetin 140 mg Ipriflavone 20
mg Chrysin 20 mg 40 Naringenin 20 mg Tribulus terrestris
500 mg Avena sativa Extract (leaf) 25 mg Urtica dioica
Extract (root) 25 mg

Now, what I am concerned about are flavones. I think they
could actually increase the production of estrogen (i.e.
do something opposite of what this supplement is supposed
to do!) based on this study:

ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgiOpen ↗
e&db=PubMed&list_uids=9751507&dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000

What do you think? Am I reading it wrong or this
supplement is a counterproductive mix of testosterone- and
estrogen-potentiating components?

Thanks in advance.

Two of the ingredients, i.e., Avena and Urtica (AKA Nettle)
may bind with

matabolically active testosterone. Tribulus is supposed to
promote LH release from the pituitary, which would also
raise testosterone levels, but there isn't a lot of solid
proof pertaining to this. As far as I know, there is no
published evidence that the other ingredients in this
formula increase testosterone. As for the flavones, they are
notoriously hard for the body to absorb; must show more
activity in vitro than in
vivo. Chrysin, for example, is an excellent estrogen
inhibitor in isolated cell studies, but isn't absorbed
to any meaningful extent in the human body. I wouldn't
worry too much about flavones having active estrogenic
effects. You may want to consider an herbal supplement
called Longjack or Tonkat Ali. This actually does seem
to increase testosterone levels--if changes in libido
are any indication.

--
Al Bardo

On 19 Apr 2004 17:00:42 GMT, [email hidden] posted:

Quoted message said:

Who knows, but it looks as though it would make a good
curry. Why bother with Testosterone unless you have known
low levels based on tests?

I'm sure Noisey will have dredged up a paper to say that all
our testosterone levels are too low by a factor of two 🙂

On 19 Apr 2004 20:31:27 -0700, [email hidden] (ARM) posted:

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]-
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Quoted message said:

Who knows, but it looks as though it would make a good
curry. Why bother with Testosterone unless you have known
low levels based on tests?

Well, you do not know whether I measured it or not. Still,
you come up with this ridiculous statement about curry.
What's wrong with you - don't you have anything better to
do? If you can say anything intelligent and are ready to
share your knowlegde, please do. If you want to make wise
remarks, be aware that you look like a teenage dork.

Funny, teenage dork only came to my mind when I read your
response. If your testosterone is low, why are you not
replacing it properly?

"Moosh🙂" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On 19 Apr 2004 17:00:42 GMT, [email hidden] posted:

Quoted message said:

Who knows, but it looks as though it would make a good
curry. Why bother with Testosterone unless you have known
low levels based on tests?

I'm sure Noisey will have dredged up a paper to say
that all our testosterone levels are too low by a
factor of two 🙂

Naw. Just go over to the impotence newsgroup and listen in.

And the factor is 2 or 3 is about right if judge by their
experience and compare it to what some of the less enlighten
Docs consider the line in sand regarding T levels.

Mooshe as you claimed in the pass to be a female and seemed
something of man hater, why would any man ever listen to
your opinion?

I don't see you quoting texts, abstracts, or journal
articles.

Mooshe the cow has a pendulous udder and a tail to
tell....... ...............................William A. Noyes

Well, well, I see this group is rich in people with
extraordinary psychic abilities. Moosh joined their ranks by
supposing - why? because I am interested in this supplement?
- that my T levels are low. The truth is, I do not know, but
I do not think so, and allow me not to elaborate why :-)))
My question was posted here because of curiosity: I read the
label and I thought something is not right with this
supplement's components. Well, so far I got 1 intelligent
reply and one friendly advice to eat oysters - thanks!

"Moosh🙂" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On 19 Apr 2004 20:31:27 -0700, [email hidden] (ARM)
posted:

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]-
net.com>...

Quoted message said:

Who knows, but it looks as though it would make a good
curry. Why bother with Testosterone unless you have
known low levels based on tests?

Well, you do not know whether I measured it or not.
Still, you come up with this ridiculous statement about
curry. What's wrong with you - don't you have anything
better to do? If you can say anything intelligent and
are ready to share your knowlegde, please do. If you
want to make wise remarks, be aware that you look like a
teenage dork.

Funny, teenage dork only came to my mind when I read your
response. If your testosterone is low, why are you not
replacing it properly?

On 21 Apr 2004 09:28:31 -0700, [email hidden] (ARM) posted:

Quoted message said:

Well, well, I see this group is rich in people with
extraordinary psychic abilities. Moosh joined their ranks
by supposing - why? because I am interested in this
supplement? - that my T levels are low. The truth is, I do
not know, but I do not think so, and allow me not to
elaborate why :-))) My question was posted here because of
curiosity: I read the label and I thought something is not
right with this supplement's components. Well, so far I got
1 intelligent reply and one friendly advice to eat oysters
- thanks!

You said:

Greetings, I have taken the supplement that is supposed to
increase the Testosterone level; this supplement includes:

Now how do you interpret this?

Quoted message said:

"Moosh🙂" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

On 19 Apr 2004 20:31:27 -0700, [email hidden] (ARM)
posted:

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] wrote in message news:<[email hidden]-
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> Who knows, but it looks as though it would make a good
> curry. Why bother with Testosterone unless you have
> known low levels based on tests?
>

Well, you do not know whether I measured it or not.
Still, you come up with this ridiculous statement about
curry. What's wrong with you - don't you have anything
better to do? If you can say anything intelligent and
are ready to share your knowlegde, please do. If you
want to make wise remarks, be aware that you look like a
teenage dork.

Funny, teenage dork only came to my mind when I read your
response. If your testosterone is low, why are you not
replacing it properly?

"Moosh🙂" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

You said:

Greetings, I have taken the supplement that is supposed
to increase the Testosterone level; this supplement
includes:

Now how do you interpret this?

It's a bodybuilding supplement (Pinnacle's Methoxy-test).
I'm playing with iron in my spare time. Many bodybuilding
supps revolve around T. OK?