wild water

Jon Reynolds wrote on 12 Aug 2004 01:28:53 -0700....

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(ps...how do u lot get a signature at the end of your message...like
about removing spam from ur email addy etc...or do u just type it in
everytime....

and also how did u change ur email addresses to include NOSPAM
etc??....)

I see you're posting via Google Groups, using your web browser. I'm
not sure, but I suspect Google may not let you do these things.

Reading newsgroups via a web interface such as Google Groups is
actually a rather poor way, if you are going to use newsgroups
regularly. Most people would prefer to use newsreading software
instead.

There are any number of newsreading software packages available which
will provide the facilities you are seeking, and which will also be
more convenient for regular use. One which you may already have is
Outlook Express (look up "newsgroups" and "newsreading" in its help
system). However there are better packages out there, such as Gravity
and Free Agent, both of which are free.

--
Tim Jackson
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* The air of uk.rec.walking was filled with the delicate perfume
* of violets, as Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> descended on a shaft
* of golden sunlight, and announced:

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I'm not concerned about sheep grazing some distance away - but if I
see sheep in or close by the water supply, or evidence of recent
livestock activity such as stools on the immediate bank, I'd advise
taking water from another place or further upstream.

Again, this simply rules out very large tracts of UK upland where sheep
graze widely, and there is no problem drinking the water.

What's the risk of catching liver flukes via sheep faeces contaminated
water? I've always considered liver flukes to be a particularly unattractive
parasite to aquire!

Regards: Jim Ford

Mark Thompson <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What are these toxins that are referred to? How much of a danger are
they to health? I'm guessing traces of metals and only if you drink
lots for a long time?

mainly agricultural chemicals, especially organophosphates and
organochlorines (both nasty) plus potentially some metal complexes.

They can instantly cause problems to you, but the greater risk is probably
build up within your body.

Just be grateful that (hopefully) nobody is using DDT any more!
Darren

"Darren G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Mark Thompson <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What are these toxins that are referred to? How much of a danger are
they to health? I'm guessing traces of metals and only if you drink
lots for a long time?

mainly agricultural chemicals, especially organophosphates and
organochlorines (both nasty) plus potentially some metal complexes.

They can instantly cause problems to you, but the greater risk is probably
build up within your body.

Just be grateful that (hopefully) nobody is using DDT any more!

DDT is practically non-toxic to humans, it just kills everything else.
--
Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

"Mark South" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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"Darren G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Mark Thompson <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What are these toxins that are referred to? How much of a danger
are they to health? I'm guessing traces of metals and only if you
drink lots for a long time?

mainly agricultural chemicals, especially organophosphates and
organochlorines (both nasty) plus potentially some metal complexes.

They can instantly cause problems to you, but the greater risk is
probably build up within your body.

Just be grateful that (hopefully) nobody is using DDT any more!

DDT is practically non-toxic to humans, it just kills everything else.

agree its main risk is to animal life, but it concentrates as it moves up
the food chain and starts to build up in your body. That build up can
cause problems:

"HIGHLIGHTS: Exposure to DDT, DDE, and DDD occurs mostly from eating
foods containing small amounts of these compounds, particularly meat,
fish and poultry. High levels of DDT can affect the nervous system
causing excitability, tremors and seizures. In women, DDE can cause a
reduction in the duration of lactation and an increased chance of having
a premature baby. DDT, DDE, and DDD have been found in at least 441 of
the 1,613 National Priorities List sites identified by the Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA)."

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There are any number of newsreading software packages available which
will provide the facilities you are seeking, and which will also be
more convenient for regular use. One which you may already have is
Outlook Express (look up "newsgroups" and "newsreading" in its help
system). However there are better packages out there, such as Gravity
and Free Agent, both of which are free.

Not heard of Gravity before, so gave it a try. Think it is far better
than Free Agent (which is really showing its age on its interface) and
I've got this feeling that it is about to oust XNews as my preferred
(PC) newsreader.

You learn something every day :-) Thanks Tim!

Darren
(posted using Gravity)

Jim Ford said:

What's the risk of catching liver flukes via sheep faeces contaminated
water? I've always considered liver flukes to be a particularly unattractive
parasite to aquire!

I'm not an expert, but from a Google it seems the cysts attach
themselves to plant life in and around the water, and sheep munching on
it get the next wave. There's minimal chance of getting them AFAICT
from just drinking water. I don't have a number with a risk attached
though.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Darren G <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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In article <[email hidden]>,
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Quoted message said:

There are any number of newsreading software packages available which
will provide the facilities you are seeking, and which will also be
more convenient for regular use. One which you may already have is
Outlook Express (look up "newsgroups" and "newsreading" in its help
system). However there are better packages out there, such as Gravity
and Free Agent, both of which are free.

Not heard of Gravity before, so gave it a try. Think it is far better
than Free Agent (which is really showing its age on its interface) and
I've got this feeling that it is about to oust XNews as my preferred
(PC) newsreader.

You learn something every day :-) Thanks Tim!

Darren
(posted using Gravity)

cheers tim and darren...i do use outlook but think i will try that gravity one...

nice one.

Jon Reynolds said:

cheers tim and darren...i do use outlook

Ah well, we all make mistakes, said the Dalek climbing off the
dustbin... The news and mail built in to Mozilla (separated off into
Mozilla Thunderbird) is okay too IMHO.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Jon Reynolds wrote on 13 Aug 2004 03:51:12 -0700....

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cheers tim and darren...i do use outlook but think i will try that gravity one...

If you've only ever used Google Groups, you may find that a newsreader
such as Gravity takes a little getting used to. It's highly
configurable, so it's worth playing around with all the settings until
they suit you. You'll also need to find out the settings to connect
to your ISP's news server before you start.

Also worth experimenting with some of the keyboard shortcuts, e.g.
'W' to mark a thread to be watched, 'I' to ignore a thread, 'N' to
view the next unread article. Once you've mastered them, they enable
you to scan through newly posted articles quite quickly.

Unlike Google, newsreaders are designed to enable you to read articles
offline, if you wish. One way to do this is:

(a) Log on to the news server. Download just the headers from new
articles in all the newsgroups you've subscribed to. If you have
previously marked some existing threads to be watched, your newsreader
can be configured to download the message bodies of any new articles
in just those threads at the same time. Log off.

(b) Scan through the headers and messages you've just downloaded.
Based on how interesting the subject headers seem, mark any new
threads to be watched or ignored. Or just tag individual articles to
be downloaded, but not watched in future. While you are at it, read
the bodies of any new articles that were downloaded in threads you are
watching, and write replies if you wish.

(c) Log back on, to send any replies, and to download the message
bodies from new articles and threads you've tagged or marked to be
watched. Log off again to read them and reply at your leisure.

--
Tim Jackson
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(Change '.invalid' to '.co.uk' to reply direct)
Absurd patents: visit http://www.patent.freeserve.co.uk

Yeah...i got outlook just setup..seems rather straight forward to use...i
tried gravity but couldnt get it set up so gave up!!

outlook will do

i use mozilla firefox...doesnt have as much as org mozilla did..no editor,
or IRC or built in mail client...do i need to install thunderbird to use the
newsgroup thingy?

cheers all

"Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Jon Reynolds said:

cheers tim and darren...i do use outlook

Ah well, we all make mistakes, said the Dalek climbing off the
dustbin... The news and mail built in to Mozilla (separated off into
Mozilla Thunderbird) is okay too IMHO.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

In article <[email hidden]>, Jon
Reynolds <[email hidden]> writes

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i am from swansea btw so gower and brecon are where i try to
get to most of the time.

There's a few of us around :-)
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article <[email hidden]>, Judith
<[email hidden]> writes

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I've seen some incredible[1] turds on the steps up to Moorfields
Station in Liverpool.

Some years ago when in Waterford Eire a turd was seen on a public coin
weighing machine - on the bit you stand on.
My pal commented:

"Hey look at that - a t'ird of a pound".

Fact not fiction.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk