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  1. Hello all

    I think I killed my trike today. I went out for a ride on my
    96 Trice and after about 30 miles or so I took a nasty
    spill. I'm not exactly sure what happened but I know I ended
    up getting thrown out of it and now have a fist size bruise
    on my leg.

    I picked myself up and righted the trike - then the real
    pain kicked
    in. One of the front wheels has cracked the hub. This is on
    the outboard side, the bit that holds the spokes in.
    About a quarter of it has came away. Also the breaking
    lever (hub brakes) is loose. It still brakes but only
    after it has span round a little.

    I haven't had this thing long and I am still paying for it
    so am desperately hoping this can be repaired without a new
    hub. Things that sprang to mind are.

    Epoxy it back together - would that hold. Have it welded
    back - hopefully not to expensive if I can find someone who
    can do it New hub - worst case.

    I hope a repair will be possible because I had to ride it
    home like this and it didn't object too much so hopefully
    there is not too much force on it.

    If it did come down to a new hub (I feel confident enough to
    re-build a wheel if it comes down to it) any ideas how much
    one will cost in the UK and where would be a good place to
    get one from?

    If the repair option works next thing is this lose break
    lever (on the hub, not the handlebar). Can anyone recommend
    a site with instructions on servicing hub brakes?

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Everso

  2. Quoted message said:


    New hub - worst case.

    Actually, I would suggest a new wheel. If the rim has bent
    quite a bit, which would be the case with a bunch of lose
    spokes, you'll never be able to true it properly again. And
    forget about re-using the spokes and nipples. They will be
    prone to failure if you do.

    Since you mentioned that you don't quite know why you fell,
    could it be possible that you fell because the hub broke due
    to a defect? Worth looking into, and you may get a free
    replacement wheel from the manufacturer.

  3. Joao de Souza said:
    Quoted message said:


    New hub - worst case.

    Actually, I would suggest a new wheel. If the rim has bent
    quite a bit, which would be the case with a bunch of lose
    spokes, you'll never be able to true it properly again. And
    forget about re-using the spokes and nipples. They will be
    prone to failure if you do.

    Since you mentioned that you don't quite know why you fell,
    could it be possible that you fell because the hub broke
    due to a defect? Worth looking into, and you may get a free
    replacement wheel from the manufacturer.

    Well I bought this second hand - it's a 1996 model. So,
    while that rules out free replacement I suppose it does make
    hub failure more possible.

    The biggest problem is I can not find anywhere to buy these
    hubs (SRAM/SACH drum brakes). The original manufacturer is
    trying to source some for me but in the mean time I'm
    trikeless and unhappy.

    I was thinking of removing all the spokes, putting a bit of
    steel plate to match the flange and rebuild with this as
    re-enforcement. It may take weeks to get a replacement and
    that should get me back on the road if I'm careful with it.
    No more rough roads for a while. I can do that if I get to
    ride again.

    Unless of course anyone has a pair of SRAM/SACH hub brake
    hubs looking for a good home ...

    Everso

  4. Quoted message said:


    The biggest problem is I can not find anywhere to buy these
    hubs (SRAM/SACH drum brakes). The original manufacturer is
    trying to source some for me but in the mean time I'm
    trikeless and unhappy.

    Have you tried one of the shops that do tandems and
    recumbents, like Tandems ?UNlimited? in ?Alabama? (sorry for
    the question marks, but its been a long day and I'm tired of
    doing searches to check) or College Park Bikes/Mt. Airy
    Bikes in Maryland? They have a lot of similar stuff and big
    parts bins.

    Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
    two wheels...

  5. What exact model hub?

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello all

    I think I killed my trike today. I went out for a ride on
    my 96 Trice and after about 30 miles or so I took a nasty
    spill. I'm not exactly sure what happened but I know I
    ended up getting thrown out of it and now have a fist size
    bruise on my leg.

    I picked myself up and righted the trike - then the real
    pain kicked
    in. One of the front wheels has cracked the hub. This is
    on the outboard side, the bit that holds the spokes
    in. About a quarter of it has came away. Also the
    breaking lever (hub brakes) is loose. It still brakes
    but only after it has span round a little.

    I haven't had this thing long and I am still paying for it
    so am desperately hoping this can be repaired without a
    new hub. Things that sprang to mind are.

    Epoxy it back together - would that hold. Have it welded
    back - hopefully not to expensive if I can find someone
    who can do it New hub - worst case.

    I hope a repair will be possible because I had to ride it
    home like this and it didn't object too much so hopefully
    there is not too much force on it.

    If it did come down to a new hub (I feel confident enough
    to re-build a wheel if it comes down to it) any ideas how
    much one will cost in the UK and where would be a good
    place to get one from?

    If the repair option works next thing is this lose
    break lever (on the hub, not the handlebar). Can
    anyone recommend a site with instructions on servicing
    hub brakes?

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Everso

  6. Quoted message said:

    ... The biggest problem is I can not find anywhere to buy
    these hubs (SRAM/SACH drum brakes)....

    The Sachs drum brakes hubs are rather fragile according to
    one trike manufacturer. <ihpva.org2002
    October/021493.html>

    --
    Tom Sherman – Quad Cities (Illinois Side)

  7. You can have a machinist cut the outer flange off the hub on
    a lathe and then drill the holes verticly though the hubs
    center part like the new GS and Trice hubs. This allos use
    of strait pull spokes. You can also switch over to low cost
    mechanical disk brakes at this point with readily available
    20mm axle hubs. I have heard the outer flanges are weak on
    these hubs elsewhere but have no experience with them.
    Tadpole trikes put a lot of side load on there front wheels.

    Jamie MacMenemy www.air-lite.com

    "Robert Haston" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:<[email hidden]-
    rthlink.net>...

    Quoted message said:

    What exact model hub?

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello all

    I think I killed my trike today. I went out for a ride
    on my 96 Trice and after about 30 miles or so I took a
    nasty spill. I'm not exactly sure what happened but I
    know I ended up getting thrown out of it and now have a
    fist size bruise on my leg.

    I picked myself up and righted the trike - then the real
    pain kicked
    in. One of the front wheels has cracked the hub. This is
    on the outboard side, the bit that holds the spokes
    in. About a quarter of it has came away. Also the
    breaking lever (hub brakes) is loose. It still
    brakes but only after it has span round a little.

    I haven't had this thing long and I am still paying for
    it so am desperately hoping this can be repaired without
    a new hub. Things that sprang to mind are.

    Epoxy it back together - would that hold. Have it welded
    back - hopefully not to expensive if I can find someone
    who can do it New hub - worst case.

    I hope a repair will be possible because I had to ride
    it home like this and it didn't object too much so
    hopefully there is not too much force on it.

    If it did come down to a new hub (I feel confident
    enough to re-build a wheel if it comes down to it) any
    ideas how much one will cost in the UK and where would
    be a good place to get one from?

    If the repair option works next thing is this lose break
    lever (on the hub, not the handlebar). Can anyone
    recommend a site with instructions on servicing hub
    brakes?

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Everso

  8. Robert Haston said:

    What exact model hub?

    I don't know. There isn't even a makers name anywhere I can
    see, let alone a model number.

    All i know is that it's what was fitted to Peter Ross -
    1996 trikes.

    Everso

  9. (R-Sports International) said:

    You can have a machinist cut the outer flange off the hub
    on a lathe and then drill the holes verticly though the
    hubs center part like the new GS and Trice hubs. This allos
    use of strait pull spokes. You can also switch over to low
    cost mechanical disk brakes at this point with readily
    available 20mm axle hubs. I have heard the outer flanges
    are weak on these hubs elsewhere but have no experience
    with them. Tadpole trikes put a lot of side load on there
    front wheels.

    I would love to switch to disc brake but the trike is set up
    for hub and would require a lot of experimental work to get
    discs on there. I would rather not experiment with my
    braking system. This is before we get into the cost of new
    hubs/braking system etc.

    One of the reasons I bought the trike was to commute to
    work and save some cash. Certainly not working out that
    way so far 🙁

    Everso

  10. Quoted message said:

    Hello all

    I think I killed my trike today. I went out for a ride on
    my 96 Trice and after about 30 miles or so I took a nasty
    spill. I'm not exactly snip tail of woe and much sorrow.

    o.k. - here's what I decided/have done so far. I stripped
    the wheel down and got the hub cleaned up. The outer
    flange is quite large - possible contributing to its
    breaking - so I have cut a C shaped bit of steel and
    glued it to the back of the flange. The broken bit is
    in place and gluing to the steel. The bit of steel is
    about 70% of the diameter of the wheel and the broken
    bit about 20% so there is a good overlap. Once the glue
    sets on Saturday I will be drilling out the spoke holes
    and rebuilding the wheel, putting the spokes through
    the original flange and the extra bit of steel.

    I don't know how strong the final combination will be but I
    am hoping it will get me back on the road this weekend. It's
    been almost a week without a ride and I'm climbing the wall.
    I got used to going out for a ride pretty fast and miss it
    all ready.

    I'll post how things workout for those interested and to
    Google for those that come after me.

    Everso.

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