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  1. I saw an old one of these at the local (Evanston,IL) bicycle club.

    slingshotbikes.comstandard.cfm

    The downtube is replaced by a spring tensioned cable. There appears to be a hinge at the
    intersection of the seat tube and top tube. The description comes close to making a perpetual
    motion claim:

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    normal road shock is absorbed and turned into forward motion — every bump becomes a boost

    Is there real benefit to this design?

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    Is there real benefit to this design?

    Not that I can see.

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  3. "Ed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I saw an old one of these at the local (Evanston,IL) bicycle club.

    slingshotbikes.comstandard.cfm

    The downtube is replaced by a spring tensioned cable. There appears to be


    a

    Quoted message said:

    hinge at the intersection of the seat tube and top tube. The description


    comes

    Quoted message said:

    close to making a perpetual motion claim:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    normal road shock is absorbed and turned into forward motion - every


    bump

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    becomes a boost

    Yeah, so they say. It might work. There are quite a few devoted fans. The cool part is that they are
    also completely foldable. If the performance is as they claim, it could be a great bike to own.

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    Is there real benefit to this design?

    A friend of mine used to race on a Slingshot mountain bike, before conventional full-suspension
    bikes were common. He loved the Slingshot, and said it was pretty fast. But, then, the guy I'm
    talking about also won a 500-mile road race (all in one day) with a ride time of 23:42 - with the
    2nd place finisher more than an hour behind him. Any bike is fast with a rider like that. (He
    *averaged* over 21mph for 500 miles, on hilly terrain.)

    Rocketman

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    Is there real benefit to this design?

    Not that I can see.

    Looks like it would have a lot of bobbing when you're pedaling, and it would probably be difficult
    to get the BB stiff enough to keep it from flexing a lot as you pedal.

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  5. "David Kerber" <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is there real benefit to this design?

    Not that I can see.

    Looks like it would have a lot of bobbing when you're pedaling, and it would probably be difficult
    to get the BB stiff enough to keep it from flexing a lot as you pedal.

    In fact, the Slingshot mountain bike is/was a rocket ship. It bobs less than a full suspension bike
    and is very efficient. Particularly on long hard rides the riders of these bikes did OK.

    The road bike version was OK but you couldn't tell much difference between it and a regular bike.

  6. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The road bike version was OK but you couldn't tell much difference between it and a regular bike.


    That's actually a pretty high compliment for a folding bike.

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    David Kerber ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net said:

    Looks like it would have a lot of bobbing when you're pedaling, and it would probably be difficult
    to get the BB stiff enough to keep it from flexing a lot as you pedal.

    I have ridden a borrowed Slingshot mountain bike a few times (perhaps 20 times). My normal mountain
    bike is an older Gary Fisher hardtail with a suspension seatpost. I'm not an expert on mountain
    bikes -- I don't ride often enough, and I haven't ridden enough different setups -- so take this
    with a grain of salt.

    My impression is that you do lose some efficiency when climbing (by comparison to a hardtail), but
    the flex is not bad enough that I notice it when riding. I also don't notice any more bob than on a
    bike with a suspension seatpost. In fact, there's less bob than on my Fisher due to a more modern
    front fork on the Slingshot.

    The slingshot is a nice bike, and as others have mentioned, it folds into a compact case. I would
    guess it is most comparable to a softtail in performance and ride.

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    Dave

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    Looks like it would have a lot of bobbing when you're pedaling, and it would probably be
    difficult to get the BB stiff enough to keep it from flexing a lot as you pedal.

    I have ridden a borrowed Slingshot mountain bike a few times (perhaps 20 times). My normal
    mountain bike is an older Gary Fisher hardtail with a suspension seatpost. I'm not an expert on
    mountain bikes -- I don't ride often enough, and I haven't ridden enough different setups -- so
    take this with a grain of salt.

    My impression is that you do lose some efficiency when climbing (by comparison to a hardtail), but
    the flex is not bad enough that I notice it when riding. I also don't notice any more bob than on
    a bike with a suspension seatpost. In fact, there's less bob than on my Fisher due to a more
    modern front fork on the Slingshot.

    The slingshot is a nice bike, and as others have mentioned, it folds into a compact case. I would
    guess it is most comparable to a softtail in performance and ride.

    I've never ridden a bike with either a rear suspension or a suspended seatpost, so I don't have
    even one data point to compare. I was trying to imagine what it would feel like on the road, rather
    than off road. It must not be too bad though, since at least a couple of people have ridden one and
    said it's ok.

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