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  1. On this fair Sunday afternoon I took my new baby out for a short spin,
    along a rather drab, but flat and straight, cycling path not far from my
    home. We did several aller-retours, amounting to about 13 km.

    First Impressions

    I never noticed before how cambered a lot of streets are. I took a short
    stretch of road to reach my path and I swear my right wheel was about 6
    inches lower than my left.

    STEER, STEER, STEER! This is new. On Fly, I only have to look in a
    direction and he reads my mind and goes there. Not so Widders. I have to
    tell him _everything_. On said cambered road, he kept trying to fall
    into the curb. No dear, go LEFT! Anyway, despite Carol Hague's
    contention that recumbent trikes are all female, I now have no further
    doubts about his gender.

    Overgown hedgerows are a problem. They now overhang at face level. I
    wouldn't even have noticed them on a bike.

    It is magnificent to be able to stop and just start again! I can be
    polite to families and old ladies. I can respect traffic lights without
    foul language. On a bike, all of this would have unhorsed me again and
    again.

    Uphill is a joy. My path was flat, but I spent some time yesterday doing
    the ramp to the upper storey of the underground parking. I used to
    practise getting up this on Myrtille. Shift down, pedal pedal pedal,
    brake, turn, pedal for your life, push, push, push, turn again at the
    top and usually miss the mark. Now, shift down, pedal relax, turn, pedal
    relax to the top, turn again. I kept trying to speed until I realized I
    didn't even have to. It's so zen, I don't even break a sweat.

    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders would
    turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as because I
    don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye EL530's, since
    Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary as to where to put
    them. No room on the computer mount. I would like them on the front
    boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel axles. But how on earth
    shall I mount them as the diameter of the boom is about 3", much thicker
    than a handlebar?

    This is supposedly a folding trike but my first attempt to fold it
    failed miserably. I did get the seat off. But the quick release clamp
    for the fold didn't seem to release anything, and getting the seat back
    on was about 45 minutes of panicky sweat. The manual is most unhelpful
    because there are almost no illustrations so you can never tell what it
    is talking about; OTOH it is constantly telling you how much danger you
    are in if you put things back incorrectly. I will write to HP
    Velotechnik demanding more diagrams and better tech writing (given that
    it's my own profession.)

    EFR
    Ile de France

  2. Artemisia said:

    On this fair Sunday afternoon I took my new baby out for a short spin,
    along a rather drab, but flat and straight, cycling path not far from
    my home. We did several aller-retours, amounting to about 13 km.

    First Impressions

    I never noticed before how cambered a lot of streets are. I took a
    short stretch of road to reach my path and I swear my right wheel was
    about 6 inches lower than my left.

    STEER, STEER, STEER! This is new. On Fly, I only have to look in a
    direction and he reads my mind and goes there. Not so Widders. I have
    to tell him _everything_. On said cambered road, he kept trying to
    fall into the curb. No dear, go LEFT! Anyway, despite Carol Hague's
    contention that recumbent trikes are all female, I now have no further
    doubts about his gender.

    Overgown hedgerows are a problem. They now overhang at face level. I
    wouldn't even have noticed them on a bike.

    It is magnificent to be able to stop and just start again! I can be
    polite to families and old ladies. I can respect traffic lights
    without foul language. On a bike, all of this would have unhorsed me
    again and again.

    Uphill is a joy. My path was flat, but I spent some time yesterday
    doing the ramp to the upper storey of the underground parking. I used
    to practise getting up this on Myrtille. Shift down, pedal pedal
    pedal, brake, turn, pedal for your life, push, push, push, turn again
    at the top and usually miss the mark. Now, shift down, pedal relax,
    turn, pedal relax to the top, turn again. I kept trying to speed
    until I realized I didn't even have to. It's so zen, I don't even
    break a sweat.
    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders
    would turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as
    because I don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye
    EL530's, since Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary
    as to where to put them. No room on the computer mount. I would like
    them on the front boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel
    axles. But how on earth shall I mount them as the diameter of the
    boom is about 3", much thicker than a handlebar?

    This is supposedly a folding trike but my first attempt to fold it
    failed miserably. I did get the seat off. But the quick release clamp
    for the fold didn't seem to release anything, and getting the seat
    back on was about 45 minutes of panicky sweat. The manual is most
    unhelpful because there are almost no illustrations so you can never
    tell what it is talking about; OTOH it is constantly telling you how
    much danger you are in if you put things back incorrectly. I will
    write to HP Velotechnik demanding more diagrams and better tech
    writing (given that it's my own profession.)

    EFR
    Ile de France

    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and then
    starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."

    Bill "happy trials and trails (and streets and paths)" S.

  3. Artemisia said:

    On this fair Sunday afternoon I took my new baby out for a short spin,
    along a rather drab, but flat and straight, cycling path not far from
    my home. We did several aller-retours, amounting to about 13 km.

    First Impressions

    I never noticed before how cambered a lot of streets are. I took a
    short stretch of road to reach my path and I swear my right wheel was
    about 6 inches lower than my left.

    STEER, STEER, STEER! This is new. On Fly, I only have to look in a
    direction and he reads my mind and goes there. Not so Widders. I have
    to tell him _everything_. On said cambered road, he kept trying to
    fall into the curb. No dear, go LEFT! Anyway, despite Carol Hague's
    contention that recumbent trikes are all female, I now have no further
    doubts about his gender.

    Overgown hedgerows are a problem. They now overhang at face level. I
    wouldn't even have noticed them on a bike.

    It is magnificent to be able to stop and just start again! I can be
    polite to families and old ladies. I can respect traffic lights
    without foul language. On a bike, all of this would have unhorsed me
    again and again.

    Uphill is a joy. My path was flat, but I spent some time yesterday
    doing the ramp to the upper storey of the underground parking. I used
    to practise getting up this on Myrtille. Shift down, pedal pedal
    pedal, brake, turn, pedal for your life, push, push, push, turn again
    at the top and usually miss the mark. Now, shift down, pedal relax,
    turn, pedal relax to the top, turn again. I kept trying to speed
    until I realized I didn't even have to. It's so zen, I don't even
    break a sweat.
    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders
    would turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as
    because I don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye
    EL530's, since Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary
    as to where to put them. No room on the computer mount. I would like
    them on the front boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel
    axles. But how on earth shall I mount them as the diameter of the
    boom is about 3", much thicker than a handlebar?

    This is supposedly a folding trike but my first attempt to fold it
    failed miserably. I did get the seat off. But the quick release clamp
    for the fold didn't seem to release anything, and getting the seat
    back on was about 45 minutes of panicky sweat. The manual is most
    unhelpful because there are almost no illustrations so you can never
    tell what it is talking about; OTOH it is constantly telling you how
    much danger you are in if you put things back incorrectly. I will
    write to HP Velotechnik demanding more diagrams and better tech
    writing (given that it's my own profession.)

    EFR
    Ile de France

    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and then
    starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."

    Bill "happy trials and trails (and streets and paths)" S.

  4. Bill Sornson said:
    Artemisia said:

    On this fair Sunday afternoon I took my new baby out for a short spin,
    along a rather drab, but flat and straight, cycling path not far from
    my home. We did several aller-retours, amounting to about 13 km.

    First Impressions

    I never noticed before how cambered a lot of streets are. I took a
    short stretch of road to reach my path and I swear my right wheel was
    about 6 inches lower than my left.

    STEER, STEER, STEER! This is new. On Fly, I only have to look in a
    direction and he reads my mind and goes there. Not so Widders. I have
    to tell him _everything_. On said cambered road, he kept trying to
    fall into the curb. No dear, go LEFT! Anyway, despite Carol Hague's
    contention that recumbent trikes are all female, I now have no further
    doubts about his gender.

    Overgown hedgerows are a problem. They now overhang at face level. I
    wouldn't even have noticed them on a bike.

    It is magnificent to be able to stop and just start again! I can be
    polite to families and old ladies. I can respect traffic lights
    without foul language. On a bike, all of this would have unhorsed me
    again and again.

    Uphill is a joy. My path was flat, but I spent some time yesterday
    doing the ramp to the upper storey of the underground parking. I used
    to practise getting up this on Myrtille. Shift down, pedal pedal
    pedal, brake, turn, pedal for your life, push, push, push, turn again
    at the top and usually miss the mark. Now, shift down, pedal relax,
    turn, pedal relax to the top, turn again. I kept trying to speed
    until I realized I didn't even have to. It's so zen, I don't even
    break a sweat.
    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders
    would turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as
    because I don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye
    EL530's, since Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary
    as to where to put them. No room on the computer mount. I would like
    them on the front boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel
    axles. But how on earth shall I mount them as the diameter of the
    boom is about 3", much thicker than a handlebar?

    This is supposedly a folding trike but my first attempt to fold it
    failed miserably. I did get the seat off. But the quick release clamp
    for the fold didn't seem to release anything, and getting the seat
    back on was about 45 minutes of panicky sweat. The manual is most
    unhelpful because there are almost no illustrations so you can never
    tell what it is talking about; OTOH it is constantly telling you how
    much danger you are in if you put things back incorrectly. I will
    write to HP Velotechnik demanding more diagrams and better tech
    writing (given that it's my own profession.)

    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and then
    starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."

    to quote Neil Brooks:

    "
    l
    e
    t

    i
    t

    g
    o

    B
    i
    l
    l
    ..
    "

  5. Bill Sornson said:
    Artemisia said:

    On this fair Sunday afternoon I took my new baby out for a short spin,
    along a rather drab, but flat and straight, cycling path not far from
    my home. We did several aller-retours, amounting to about 13 km.

    First Impressions

    I never noticed before how cambered a lot of streets are. I took a
    short stretch of road to reach my path and I swear my right wheel was
    about 6 inches lower than my left.

    STEER, STEER, STEER! This is new. On Fly, I only have to look in a
    direction and he reads my mind and goes there. Not so Widders. I have
    to tell him _everything_. On said cambered road, he kept trying to
    fall into the curb. No dear, go LEFT! Anyway, despite Carol Hague's
    contention that recumbent trikes are all female, I now have no further
    doubts about his gender.

    Overgown hedgerows are a problem. They now overhang at face level. I
    wouldn't even have noticed them on a bike.

    It is magnificent to be able to stop and just start again! I can be
    polite to families and old ladies. I can respect traffic lights
    without foul language. On a bike, all of this would have unhorsed me
    again and again.

    Uphill is a joy. My path was flat, but I spent some time yesterday
    doing the ramp to the upper storey of the underground parking. I used
    to practise getting up this on Myrtille. Shift down, pedal pedal
    pedal, brake, turn, pedal for your life, push, push, push, turn again
    at the top and usually miss the mark. Now, shift down, pedal relax,
    turn, pedal relax to the top, turn again. I kept trying to speed
    until I realized I didn't even have to. It's so zen, I don't even
    break a sweat.
    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders
    would turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as
    because I don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye
    EL530's, since Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary
    as to where to put them. No room on the computer mount. I would like
    them on the front boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel
    axles. But how on earth shall I mount them as the diameter of the
    boom is about 3", much thicker than a handlebar?

    This is supposedly a folding trike but my first attempt to fold it
    failed miserably. I did get the seat off. But the quick release clamp
    for the fold didn't seem to release anything, and getting the seat
    back on was about 45 minutes of panicky sweat. The manual is most
    unhelpful because there are almost no illustrations so you can never
    tell what it is talking about; OTOH it is constantly telling you how
    much danger you are in if you put things back incorrectly. I will
    write to HP Velotechnik demanding more diagrams and better tech
    writing (given that it's my own profession.)

    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and then
    starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."

    to quote Neil Brooks:

    "
    l
    e
    t

    i
    t

    g
    o

    B
    i
    l
    l
    ..
    "

  6. Tom Sherman said:
    Bill Sornson said:
    Artemisia said:

    On this fair Sunday afternoon I took my new baby out for a short
    spin, along a rather drab, but flat and straight, cycling path not
    far from my home. We did several aller-retours, amounting to about
    13 km. First Impressions

    I never noticed before how cambered a lot of streets are. I took a
    short stretch of road to reach my path and I swear my right wheel
    was about 6 inches lower than my left.

    STEER, STEER, STEER! This is new. On Fly, I only have to look in a
    direction and he reads my mind and goes there. Not so Widders. I
    have to tell him _everything_. On said cambered road, he kept
    trying to fall into the curb. No dear, go LEFT! Anyway, despite
    Carol Hague's contention that recumbent trikes are all female, I
    now have no further doubts about his gender.

    Overgown hedgerows are a problem. They now overhang at face level. I
    wouldn't even have noticed them on a bike.

    It is magnificent to be able to stop and just start again! I can be
    polite to families and old ladies. I can respect traffic lights
    without foul language. On a bike, all of this would have unhorsed me
    again and again.

    Uphill is a joy. My path was flat, but I spent some time yesterday
    doing the ramp to the upper storey of the underground parking. I
    used to practise getting up this on Myrtille. Shift down, pedal
    pedal pedal, brake, turn, pedal for your life, push, push, push,
    turn again at the top and usually miss the mark. Now, shift down,
    pedal relax, turn, pedal relax to the top, turn again. I kept
    trying to speed until I realized I didn't even have to. It's so
    zen, I don't even break a sweat.
    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders
    would turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as
    because I don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye
    EL530's, since Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary
    as to where to put them. No room on the computer mount. I would like
    them on the front boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel
    axles. But how on earth shall I mount them as the diameter of the
    boom is about 3", much thicker than a handlebar?

    This is supposedly a folding trike but my first attempt to fold it
    failed miserably. I did get the seat off. But the quick release
    clamp for the fold didn't seem to release anything, and getting the
    seat back on was about 45 minutes of panicky sweat. The manual is
    most unhelpful because there are almost no illustrations so you can
    never tell what it is talking about; OTOH it is constantly telling
    you how much danger you are in if you put things back incorrectly.
    I will write to HP Velotechnik demanding more diagrams and better
    tech writing (given that it's my own profession.)

    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and
    then starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."

    to quote Neil Brooks:

    "
    l
    e
    t

    i
    t

    g
    o

    B
    i
    l
    l
    .
    "

    I plonked Neil so I wouldn't be tempted to flame him, OR be subject to his
    slander and lies, so he can thank you for this*: Hope his wife (his main
    support other than Vicadin and Disability even though he's healthy as a
    horse) didn't lose her job when Planned Parenthood was busted for telling
    underage pregnant girls to lie about their age so they wouldn't have to
    report their statutory rapists to the authorities. He can always take his
    Magic Flying Prus (sic tm) to France again, I guess. Or ride one of his two
    $6K Mootses. Disability and chemical/spousal dependence really pay!

    OK, time to let go again...

    Bill "I hear the blogs are hiring!" S.

    *He swore he plonked me, so won't see that. Right.

  7. Tom Sherman said:
    Bill Sornson said:
    Artemisia said:

    On this fair Sunday afternoon I took my new baby out for a short
    spin, along a rather drab, but flat and straight, cycling path not
    far from my home. We did several aller-retours, amounting to about
    13 km. First Impressions

    I never noticed before how cambered a lot of streets are. I took a
    short stretch of road to reach my path and I swear my right wheel
    was about 6 inches lower than my left.

    STEER, STEER, STEER! This is new. On Fly, I only have to look in a
    direction and he reads my mind and goes there. Not so Widders. I
    have to tell him _everything_. On said cambered road, he kept
    trying to fall into the curb. No dear, go LEFT! Anyway, despite
    Carol Hague's contention that recumbent trikes are all female, I
    now have no further doubts about his gender.

    Overgown hedgerows are a problem. They now overhang at face level. I
    wouldn't even have noticed them on a bike.

    It is magnificent to be able to stop and just start again! I can be
    polite to families and old ladies. I can respect traffic lights
    without foul language. On a bike, all of this would have unhorsed me
    again and again.

    Uphill is a joy. My path was flat, but I spent some time yesterday
    doing the ramp to the upper storey of the underground parking. I
    used to practise getting up this on Myrtille. Shift down, pedal
    pedal pedal, brake, turn, pedal for your life, push, push, push,
    turn again at the top and usually miss the mark. Now, shift down,
    pedal relax, turn, pedal relax to the top, turn again. I kept
    trying to speed until I realized I didn't even have to. It's so
    zen, I don't even break a sweat.
    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders
    would turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as
    because I don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye
    EL530's, since Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary
    as to where to put them. No room on the computer mount. I would like
    them on the front boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel
    axles. But how on earth shall I mount them as the diameter of the
    boom is about 3", much thicker than a handlebar?

    This is supposedly a folding trike but my first attempt to fold it
    failed miserably. I did get the seat off. But the quick release
    clamp for the fold didn't seem to release anything, and getting the
    seat back on was about 45 minutes of panicky sweat. The manual is
    most unhelpful because there are almost no illustrations so you can
    never tell what it is talking about; OTOH it is constantly telling
    you how much danger you are in if you put things back incorrectly.
    I will write to HP Velotechnik demanding more diagrams and better
    tech writing (given that it's my own profession.)

    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and
    then starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."

    to quote Neil Brooks:

    "
    l
    e
    t

    i
    t

    g
    o

    B
    i
    l
    l
    .
    "

    I plonked Neil so I wouldn't be tempted to flame him, OR be subject to his
    slander and lies, so he can thank you for this*: Hope his wife (his main
    support other than Vicadin and Disability even though he's healthy as a
    horse) didn't lose her job when Planned Parenthood was busted for telling
    underage pregnant girls to lie about their age so they wouldn't have to
    report their statutory rapists to the authorities. He can always take his
    Magic Flying Prus (sic tm) to France again, I guess. Or ride one of his two
    $6K Mootses. Disability and chemical/spousal dependence really pay!

    OK, time to let go again...

    Bill "I hear the blogs are hiring!" S.

    *He swore he plonked me, so won't see that. Right.

  8. Bill Sornson said:
    Tom Sherman said:
    Bill Sornson said:


    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and
    then starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."


    to quote Neil Brooks:

    "
    l
    e
    t

    i
    t

    g
    o

    B
    i
    l
    l
    .
    "

    I plonked Neil so I wouldn't be tempted to flame him, OR be subject to his
    slander and lies, so he can thank you for this*: Hope his wife (his main
    support other than Vicadin and Disability even though he's healthy as a
    horse) didn't lose her job when Planned Parenthood was busted for telling
    underage pregnant girls to lie about their age so they wouldn't have to
    report their statutory rapists to the authorities. He can always take his
    Magic Flying Prus (sic tm) to France again, I guess. Or ride one of his two
    $6K Mootses. Disability and chemical/spousal dependence really pay!

    OK, time to let go again...

    Bill "I hear the blogs are hiring!" S.

    *He swore he plonked me, so won't see that. Right.

    Real classy post there Mr. Sornson - posting personal gossip.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?

  9. Bill Sornson said:
    Tom Sherman said:
    Bill Sornson said:


    Before Jobst flames you for posting a ride report here ( :-P ) and
    then starts another political thread, let me just say, "Charming."


    to quote Neil Brooks:

    "
    l
    e
    t

    i
    t

    g
    o

    B
    i
    l
    l
    .
    "

    I plonked Neil so I wouldn't be tempted to flame him, OR be subject to his
    slander and lies, so he can thank you for this*: Hope his wife (his main
    support other than Vicadin and Disability even though he's healthy as a
    horse) didn't lose her job when Planned Parenthood was busted for telling
    underage pregnant girls to lie about their age so they wouldn't have to
    report their statutory rapists to the authorities. He can always take his
    Magic Flying Prus (sic tm) to France again, I guess. Or ride one of his two
    $6K Mootses. Disability and chemical/spousal dependence really pay!

    OK, time to let go again...

    Bill "I hear the blogs are hiring!" S.

    *He swore he plonked me, so won't see that. Right.

    Real classy post there Mr. Sornson - posting personal gossip.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?

  10. --
    ....
    "Artemisia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, despite Carol Hague's contention that recumbent trikes are all
    female, I now have no further doubts about his gender.

    Oh mine is definitely male too. Always has been. Indeed, all my steeds are
    male.

    Gino & Luigi Mk II (The Bianchi Brothers)
    Mr Norbert Frosty (IceT)
    My hybrid is male too, but he won't tell me his name, so he's referred to as
    Clint.

  11. --
    ....
    "Artemisia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, despite Carol Hague's contention that recumbent trikes are all
    female, I now have no further doubts about his gender.

    Oh mine is definitely male too. Always has been. Indeed, all my steeds are
    male.

    Gino & Luigi Mk II (The Bianchi Brothers)
    Mr Norbert Frosty (IceT)
    My hybrid is male too, but he won't tell me his name, so he's referred to as
    Clint.

  12. Artemisia said:

    I've ordered two Cateye EL530's, since
    Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary as to where to put
    them. No room on the computer mount. I would like them on the front
    boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel axles. But how on earth
    shall I mount them as the diameter of the boom is about 3", much thicker
    than a handlebar?


    Judging by:
    http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/images/presse/sco_fx_gefaltet_smart2_dreirad.jpg
    http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/images/presse/sco_fx_links_dreirad.jpg
    and other pics on the HPV site, you are supposed to use the mounting
    point on the underside of the boom (under the bottom bracket) with a
    B&M type dynamo light mount 🙁
    This would seem to be a major pain in the bum, as I'm not aware of any
    commercial adaptors that you could use to mount your 530's from there,
    and IMHO a single screw attachment would not be strong / stiff enough
    for the weight of two (or even one) decent battery lights. And you do
    really want the lights well forward to minimise foot flash.
    I suggest that you contact HPV ungently with a suitable plea for help!

  13. Artemisia said:

    I've ordered two Cateye EL530's, since
    Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary as to where to put
    them. No room on the computer mount. I would like them on the front
    boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel axles. But how on earth
    shall I mount them as the diameter of the boom is about 3", much thicker
    than a handlebar?


    Judging by:
    http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/images/presse/sco_fx_gefaltet_smart2_dreirad.jpg
    http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/images/presse/sco_fx_links_dreirad.jpg
    and other pics on the HPV site, you are supposed to use the mounting
    point on the underside of the boom (under the bottom bracket) with a
    B&M type dynamo light mount 🙁
    This would seem to be a major pain in the bum, as I'm not aware of any
    commercial adaptors that you could use to mount your 530's from there,
    and IMHO a single screw attachment would not be strong / stiff enough
    for the weight of two (or even one) decent battery lights. And you do
    really want the lights well forward to minimise foot flash.
    I suggest that you contact HPV ungently with a suitable plea for help!

  14. You could also ask the folk at www.bentrideronline.com for advice,
    'cos several of them have FX's.

  15. You could also ask the folk at www.bentrideronline.com for advice,
    'cos several of them have FX's.

  16. In article said:


    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders would
    turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as because I
    don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye EL530's, since
    Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary as to where to put
    them. No room on the computer mount. I would like them on the front
    boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel axles. But how on earth
    shall I mount them as the diameter of the boom is about 3", much thicker
    than a handlebar?

    Remind me, did you end up with a front derailleur post?
    If so, consider something like
    http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/standard_trikes/accessories.htm#LightMount

    (Which appears to be a normal Minoura Space Grip:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Cat=cycle&ProdID=5300001170
    (The square plastic bit unscrews and does up in the other alignment so
    it can clamp to handlebars or as shown in the ICE photo.)

  17. In article said:


    I had to get in before dusk, not so much because I feared Widders would
    turn into something hairy at the sight of the full Moon, as because I
    don't have lights for him yet. I've ordered two Cateye EL530's, since
    Helen is so pleased with hers. But I'm in a quandary as to where to put
    them. No room on the computer mount. I would like them on the front
    boom, one on each side, just next to the wheel axles. But how on earth
    shall I mount them as the diameter of the boom is about 3", much thicker
    than a handlebar?

    Remind me, did you end up with a front derailleur post?
    If so, consider something like
    http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/standard_trikes/accessories.htm#LightMount

    (Which appears to be a normal Minoura Space Grip:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Cat=cycle&ProdID=5300001170
    (The square plastic bit unscrews and does up in the other alignment so
    it can clamp to handlebars or as shown in the ICE photo.)

  18. squeaker said:

    This would seem to be a major pain in the bum, as I'm not aware of any
    commercial adaptors that you could use to mount your 530's from there,
    and IMHO a single screw attachment would not be strong / stiff enough
    for the weight of two (or even one) decent battery lights. And you do
    really want the lights well forward to minimise foot flash.
    I suggest that you contact HPV ungently with a suitable plea for help!

    I was hoping to put them next to my hips, on the beam that is
    perpendicular to my body and feeds into the wheel axles. Is that a bad
    place? I don't want the two lights too near each other as this cancels
    the advantage of having two of them.

    I know the Scorpion makes provision for mounting a B&M dynamo but that
    is not my choice of lighting at all...

    In fact, there is precious little space on this thing, it's even worse
    than an upright. Apparently one isn't allowed to put anything on the
    handlebars because it could perturb steering.

    EFR
    Ile de France

  19. squeaker said:

    This would seem to be a major pain in the bum, as I'm not aware of any
    commercial adaptors that you could use to mount your 530's from there,
    and IMHO a single screw attachment would not be strong / stiff enough
    for the weight of two (or even one) decent battery lights. And you do
    really want the lights well forward to minimise foot flash.
    I suggest that you contact HPV ungently with a suitable plea for help!

    I was hoping to put them next to my hips, on the beam that is
    perpendicular to my body and feeds into the wheel axles. Is that a bad
    place? I don't want the two lights too near each other as this cancels
    the advantage of having two of them.

    I know the Scorpion makes provision for mounting a B&M dynamo but that
    is not my choice of lighting at all...

    In fact, there is precious little space on this thing, it's even worse
    than an upright. Apparently one isn't allowed to put anything on the
    handlebars because it could perturb steering.

    EFR
    Ile de France

  20. Alan Braggins said:

    Remind me, did you end up with a front derailleur post?

    No, for the moment there's just the 24-spped SRAM on the back.

    Quoted message said:

    (Which appears to be a normal Minoura Space Grip:

    That's what Helen uses. It might turn out to be the solution, but I
    would prefer not to have both lights so close together.

    Carol Hague and Rob at Westcountry Recumbents had a lighting system on
    one of their trikes with two lights by the sides of the seat. They were
    on the handlebars, I think. That't the sort of thing I have in mind.

    EFR
    Ile de France

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