WI, and some advice please

"krys" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks - nowt much to shout about I suppose. I went
down 0.6, up 0.6, and back down 0.6 today - which is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss appears to have slowed down. Was that the week
of antibiotics? Inaccurate guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My TOM is late - have

I

Quoted message said:

scared them off again? - which could be a sign I'm doing more than my body is equipped for. My
swimming has crept up from 60 25m lengths in 45 mins

to

Quoted message said:

70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has gone from just over an hour and c 400cals +
weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours and c: 530 cals + weights each time. I'm also walking even more -
got the spring time fidgets. Basically, I think it may be time to up the points a bit. I

used

Quoted message said:

to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on a baseline 126

points

Quoted message said:

a week, earn about 40/50 APs a week of which I use all but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add
to my activity points - and call each session more points, or do I just up my weekly ration of
points to take into

account

Quoted message said:

my more active (and presumably better metabolically) life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a handbook!

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 ...a little stuck at present...

hey you guys - for the newbies here where can a list of acronymns be secured? WI TOM, etc. What do
these mean??

Ha!!!!!

:o)

"plup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

hey you guys - for the newbies here where can a list of acronymns be secured? WI TOM, etc. What do
these mean??

Ha!!!!!

:o)

Hey Faye and welcome to the group. Here's the welcome notice which will help you with a lot of these
acronyms, and lots of other useful stuff.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life
(Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htmOpen ↗

RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comrafl.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms: wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based
on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are
allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on
a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches
150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of
fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over
from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide
them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a
special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be
used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are
different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules.
Most of Europe calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above can
handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge
of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are
just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience
as a suggestion to try if you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
93.5/73./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

I never change anything until it has been six weeks on a stall. So my vote
is wait, Lee,
krys <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks - nowt much to shout about I suppose. I went
down 0.6, up 0.6, and back down 0.6 today - which is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss appears to have slowed down. Was that the week
of antibiotics? Inaccurate guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My TOM is late - have

I

Quoted message said:

scared them off again? - which could be a sign I'm doing more than my body is equipped for. My
swimming has crept up from 60 25m lengths in 45 mins

to

Quoted message said:

70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has gone from just over an hour and c 400cals +
weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours and c: 530 cals + weights each time. I'm also walking even more -
got the spring time fidgets. Basically, I think it may be time to up the points a bit. I

used

Quoted message said:

to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on a baseline 126

points

Quoted message said:

a week, earn about 40/50 APs a week of which I use all but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add
to my activity points - and call each session more points, or do I just up my weekly ration of
points to take into

account

Quoted message said:

my more active (and presumably better metabolically) life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a handbook!

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 ...a little stuck at present...

"JulieB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"plup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

hey you guys - for the newbies here where can a list of acronymns be secured? WI TOM, etc. What
do these mean??

Ha!!!!!

:o)

Hey Faye and welcome to the group. Here's the welcome notice which will help you with a lot of
these acronyms, and lots of other useful stuff.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life
(Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htmOpen ↗

RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comrafl.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms: wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will

need

Quoted message said:

less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system,

you

Quoted message said:

will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used
throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a particular day. When your
weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once again drop
to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum
of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over
from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints

to

Quoted message said:

be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points
per day) or save them and use them for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are
earned based when exercising, but

can

Quoted message said:

ONLY be used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are
different. The UK and Australia/NZ

calculate

Quoted message said:

points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on total fat
and total kilojoules. The desktop

calculator

Quoted message said:

above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge
of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to

post

Quoted message said:

advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this
are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of

the

Quoted message said:

regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try

if

Quoted message said:

you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what works for him/herself. If
someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or
ask your health professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/159./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Thanks, Julie!

Reads to me like you may need to go out for a dinner with higher than usual calories. It won't up
the points drastically, but it'll remind your body that you aren't trying to starve it.

Julie

"krys" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks - nowt much to shout about I suppose. I went
down 0.6, up 0.6, and back down 0.6 today - which is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss appears to have slowed down. Was that the week
of antibiotics? Inaccurate guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My TOM is late - have

I

Quoted message said:

scared them off again? - which could be a sign I'm doing more than my body is equipped for. My
swimming has crept up from 60 25m lengths in 45 mins

to

Quoted message said:

70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has gone from just over an hour and c 400cals +
weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours and c: 530 cals + weights each time. I'm also walking even more -
got the spring time fidgets. Basically, I think it may be time to up the points a bit. I

used

Quoted message said:

to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on a baseline 126

points

Quoted message said:

a week, earn about 40/50 APs a week of which I use all but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add
to my activity points - and call each session more points, or do I just up my weekly ration of
points to take into

account

Quoted message said:

my more active (and presumably better metabolically) life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a handbook!

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 ...a little stuck at present...

Soooo, you're not exactly into a plateau, technically ... but also aren't consistently losing like
you'd wish - right? A few things concern me a bit. First ... 126 points works out to 18 per day.
That is the bare bones minimum, or is the UK program a strict 18 points for your weight? It just
seems so little to me, roughly 1000 calories, if even that (if my calculations are close to
correct). And how late is TOM, a few days, a few weeks? I'm going on things I have read long ago,
related to anorexia and other weightloss issues with teen girls ... over exercising, not eating
enough, can effect the female cycle. So am wondering if that could be right where you are. If you
feel that you need to work out that intensively, maybe you need to try and eat more again? Lets
figure those 18 daily points, plus 7 activity points per day ... that's still only 25 points per day
- not quite a lot in any book and might not be enough for you. I really do hate pushing you into
eating more though, have the same fears in my stupid head as you
do ... if I eat more I will put weight on. Yet logically we also know that isn't always the case.
Are you training for a marathon? <g> I just read in the exercise manual that came with hubs bike
that the fitness gurus or association or whatever recommends a workout that expends 300-500
calories ... lower end for those who are trying to maintain fitness levels, higher end for those
training for more intensive things. Don't have a clue how true those figures are, or if they are
just something that someone has come up with off the top of their head.

I'm not sure it would really matter where you add those points to, food points or activity points -
end result would be the same anyway ... a few extra points are a few extra points regardless as to
where they are.

Another thing to consider, even if we don't really want to <grin> ... could it be possible that your
body is perfectly happy where it is, and maybe this new weight is where you should be? I have no
idea how tall you are, how old, body frame size, etc. But your system may very well be trying to
tell you something (heaven only knows what).

Joyce <being her usual wishy-washy self>

krys said:

hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks - nowt much to shout about I suppose. I went
down 0.6, up 0.6, and back down 0.6 today - which is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss appears to have slowed down. Was that the week of
antibiotics? Inaccurate guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My TOM is late - have I scared them off again? -
which could be a sign I'm doing more than my body is equipped for. My swimming has crept up from 60
25m lengths in 45 mins to 70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has gone from just over
an hour and c 400cals + weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours and c: 530 cals + weights each time. I'm
also walking even more - got the spring time fidgets. Basically, I think it may be time to up the
points a bit. I used to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on a baseline 126 points a week, earn about
40/50 APs a week of which I use all but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add to my activity
points - and call each session more points, or do I just up my weekly ration of points to take into
account my more active (and presumably better metabolically) life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a handbook!

Joyce said:

Soooo, you're not exactly into a plateau, technically ... but also aren't consistently losing like
you'd wish - right? A few things concern me a bit. First ... 126 points works out to 18 per day.
That is the bare bones minimum, or is the UK program a strict 18 points for your weight? It just
seems so little to me, roughly 1000 calories, if even that (if my calculations are close to
correct).

Joyce is right. This seems to be very little. Are you eating all the points you should be? In any
case you have a few activity points over so maybe you could eat a bit more protein after your
workouts. That way you add a few points and add the nutrients required to take advantage of all
your activity.

Good luck

Ray
--
rmnsuk
273/202/182

good idea - though being so used to WW now, I find it actively hard to eat
all the points that way....... Still, my birthday weekend is coming up, and
I plan on having a weekend off for that so......we'll see 🙂

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th
2001 ...a little stuck at present...

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3dicnTuBU9KWiNXd3cwC-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Reads to me like you may need to go out for a dinner with
higher than

usual

Quoted message said:

calories. It won't up the points drastically, but it'll
remind your body that you aren't trying to starve it.

Julie

"krys" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks -
nowt much to shout about I suppose. I went down 0.6, up
0.6, and back down 0.6 today -

which

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss
appears to have slowed down. Was that the week of
antibiotics? Inaccurate guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My
TOM is late -

have

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

scared them off again? - which could be a sign I'm doing
more than my

body

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is equipped for. My swimming has crept up from 60 25m
lengths in 45

mins

Quoted message said:

to

Quoted message said:

70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has
gone from just

over

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

an hour and c 400cals + weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours
and c: 530 cals + weights each time. I'm also walking
even more - got the spring time fidgets. Basically, I
think it may be time to up the points a bit. I

used

Quoted message said:

to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on a
baseline 126

points

Quoted message said:

a week, earn about 40/50 APs a week of which I use all
but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add to my
activity points - and call each session more points, or
do I just up my weekly ration of points to take into

account

Quoted message said:

my more active (and presumably better metabolically)
life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens
next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a
handbook!

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th
2001 ...a little stuck at present...

Well, it's half way to next WI now, and I've changed
nothing, so I guess we'll see what happens this week. I
earnt so many points, I've just not been able to use them
all, but I don't know if that will make any difference.

My TOM is a couple of weeks late. They're susceptible to
vanishing - I started WW, 1 month in they vanished, and
didn't reappear until 2 years later - which is only 6 months
ago. I'll leave that one in the lap of the gods......my body
is pretty good at sorting itself out in the long run.

126 pts is strict UK 18 points per day. But there's all my
APs too. Argh - it's all such a juggling act! *grin*

let's see what the scales bring this week.........

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th
2001 ...a little stuck at present...

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Soooo, you're not exactly into a plateau, technically ...
but also aren't consistently losing like you'd wish -
right? A few things concern me a

bit.

Quoted message said:

First ... 126 points works out to 18 per day. That is the
bare bones

minimum, or

Quoted message said:

is the UK program a strict 18 points for your weight? It
just seems so

little to

Quoted message said:

me, roughly 1000 calories, if even that (if my
calculations are close to

correct).

Quoted message said:

And how late is TOM, a few days, a few weeks? I'm going on
things I have

read

Quoted message said:

long ago, related to anorexia and other weightloss issues
with teen girls

... over

Quoted message said:

exercising, not eating enough, can effect the female
cycle. So am

wondering if

Quoted message said:

that could be right where you are. If you feel that you
need to work out

that

Quoted message said:

intensively, maybe you need to try and eat more again?
Lets figure those

18 daily

Quoted message said:

points, plus 7 activity points per day ... that's still
only 25 points per

day -

Quoted message said:

not quite a lot in any book and might not be enough for
you. I really do

hate

Quoted message said:

pushing you into eating more though, have the same fears
in my stupid head

as you

Quoted message said:

do ... if I eat more I will put weight on. Yet logically
we also know

that isn't

Quoted message said:

always the case. Are you training for a marathon? <g> I
just read in the exercise manual that came with hubs bike
that the fitness gurus or

association or

Quoted message said:

whatever recommends a workout that expends 300-500
calories ... lower end

for

Quoted message said:

those who are trying to maintain fitness levels, higher
end for those

training for

Quoted message said:

more intensive things. Don't have a clue how true those
figures are, or

if they

Quoted message said:

are just something that someone has come up with off the
top of their

head.

Quoted message said:

I'm not sure it would really matter where you add those
points to, food

points or

Quoted message said:

activity points - end result would be the same anyway ...
a few extra

points are a

Quoted message said:

few extra points regardless as to where they are.

Another thing to consider, even if we don't really want to
<grin> ...

could it be

Quoted message said:

possible that your body is perfectly happy where it is,
and maybe this new

weight

Quoted message said:

is where you should be? I have no idea how tall you are,
how old, body

frame

Quoted message said:

size, etc. But your system may very well be trying to tell
you something

(heaven

Quoted message said:

only knows what).

Joyce <being her usual wishy-washy self>

krys said:

hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks -
nowt much to shout about I suppose. I went down 0.6, up
0.6, and back down 0.6 today -

which

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss appears
to have slowed down. Was that the week of antibiotics?
Inaccurate guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My TOM
is late -

have I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

scared them off again? - which could be a sign I'm doing
more than my

body

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is equipped for. My swimming has crept up from 60 25m
lengths in 45 mins

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has
gone from just

over

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

an hour and c 400cals + weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours
and c: 530 cals + weights each time. I'm also walking
even more - got the spring time fidgets. Basically, I
think it may be time to up the points a bit. I

used

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on a
baseline 126

points

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a week, earn about 40/50 APs a week of which I use all
but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add to my activity
points - and call each session more points, or do I just
up my weekly ration of points to take into

account

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

my more active (and presumably better metabolically)
life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens
next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a
handbook!

Thanks Ray - I'll have to see if I can give that a go. It's about time I
made an effort to eat more protein anyway 🙂

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th
2001 ...a little stuck at present...

"ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Joyce said:

Soooo, you're not exactly into a plateau, technically ...
but also aren't consistently losing like you'd wish -
right? A few things concern me a

bit.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

First ... 126 points works out to 18 per day. That is the
bare bones

minimum, or

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is the UK program a strict 18 points for your weight? It
just seems so

little to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

me, roughly 1000 calories, if even that (if my
calculations are close to

correct).

Quoted message said:

Joyce is right. This seems to be very little. Are you
eating all the points you should be? In any case you have
a few activity points over so maybe you could eat a bit
more protein after your workouts. That way you add a few
points and add the nutrients required to take advantage of
all your activity.

Good luck

Ray
--
rmnsuk
273/202/182

I look forward to reading about the downward direction afterwards.
Julie
"krys" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

good idea - though being so used to WW now, I find it
actively hard to eat all the points that way....... Still,
my birthday weekend is coming up,

and

Quoted message said:

I plan on having a weekend off for that
so......we'll see 🙂

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th
2001 ...a little stuck at present...

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3dicnTuBU9KWiNXd3cwC-
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Reads to me like you may need to go out for a dinner
with higher than

usual

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calories. It won't up the points drastically, but it'll
remind your

body

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that you aren't trying to starve it.

Julie

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hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks -
nowt much to

shout

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about I suppose. I went down 0.6, up 0.6, and back
down 0.6 today -

which

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is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss
appears to have

slowed

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down. Was that the week of antibiotics? Inaccurate
guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My
TOM is late -

have

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I

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scared them off again? - which could be a sign I'm
doing more than my

body

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is equipped for. My swimming has crept up from 60 25m
lengths in 45

mins

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to

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70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has
gone from just

over

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an hour and c 400cals + weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours
and c: 530 cals

+

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weights each time. I'm also walking even more - got
the spring time fidgets. Basically, I think it may be
time to up the points a bit.

I

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used

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to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on
a baseline 126

points

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a week, earn about 40/50 APs a week of which I use all
but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add to my
activity points - and call each

session

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more points, or do I just up my weekly ration of
points to take into

account

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my more active (and presumably better metabolically)
life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens
next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a
handbook!

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August
16th 2001 ...a little stuck at present...

I've never had to deal with the vanishing TOM's - except
when pregnant. <G> Sounds like it is something you are
pretty familiar with, so probably nothing to overly worry
about. When you started ww and they disappeared, were you
also exercising very heavily? I do wonder if this has
anything to do with it at all (not that it matters, just
curiousity on my part).

I do agree, it is a huge juggling act. Rules don't seem to
fit everyone, we all work differently. If my memory is
correct though, I recall your weight being up about 6 pounds
or so when you first ventured back here requesting
information as to why you were no longer losing. The bright
side is ... you are lower than that now! <G> I'm still going
with the *either lower your exercise or increase your food*
tactic. It seemed to work for you the first time around. And
if your exercise level has increased even more ... well ...
you know. By any chance have you eliminated too much fat in
your diet? I have a tendency to do this and weightloss
ceases to exist. When I add some good fats back into the
mix, it picks back up again. Just a thought (I'm always
thinking - maybe not logically, but always thinking). <G>
And another scenario which I'm not sure has even been
brought up ... with all the exercise you have been involved
in, I am sure that you must have built some muscle. That
could very well account for you feeling thinner, clothing
being looser, yet the scale not budging. It's only a number,
doesn't tell the entire story. It's my understanding that
many extremely fit people actually carry higher weights, due
to the muscle involved.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, hoping you get the
results you are wishing for. Please do keep us posted.

Joyce

krys said:

Well, it's half way to next WI now, and I've changed
nothing, so I guess we'll see what happens this week. I
earnt so many points, I've just not been able to use them
all, but I don't know if that will make any difference.

My TOM is a couple of weeks late. They're susceptible to
vanishing - I started WW, 1 month in they vanished, and
didn't reappear until 2 years later - which is only 6
months ago. I'll leave that one in the lap of the
gods......my body is pretty good at sorting itself out in
the long run.

126 pts is strict UK 18 points per day. But there's all my
APs too. Argh - it's all such a juggling act! *grin*

let's see what the scales bring this week.........

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th
2001 ...a little stuck at present...

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Soooo, you're not exactly into a plateau, technically ...
but also aren't consistently losing like you'd wish -
right? A few things concern me a

bit.

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First ... 126 points works out to 18 per day. That is the
bare bones

minimum, or

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is the UK program a strict 18 points for your weight? It
just seems so

little to

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me, roughly 1000 calories, if even that (if my
calculations are close to

correct).

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And how late is TOM, a few days, a few weeks? I'm going
on things I have

read

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long ago, related to anorexia and other weightloss issues
with teen girls

... over

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exercising, not eating enough, can effect the female
cycle. So am

wondering if

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that could be right where you are. If you feel that you
need to work out

that

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intensively, maybe you need to try and eat more again?
Lets figure those

18 daily

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points, plus 7 activity points per day ... that's still
only 25 points per

day -

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not quite a lot in any book and might not be enough for
you. I really do

hate

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pushing you into eating more though, have the same fears
in my stupid head

as you

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do ... if I eat more I will put weight on. Yet logically
we also know

that isn't

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always the case. Are you training for a marathon? <g> I
just read in the exercise manual that came with hubs bike
that the fitness gurus or

association or

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whatever recommends a workout that expends 300-500
calories ... lower end

for

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those who are trying to maintain fitness levels, higher
end for those

training for

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more intensive things. Don't have a clue how true those
figures are, or

if they

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are just something that someone has come up with off the
top of their

head.

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I'm not sure it would really matter where you add those
points to, food

points or

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activity points - end result would be the same anyway ...
a few extra

points are a

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few extra points regardless as to where they are.

Another thing to consider, even if we don't really want
to <grin> ...

could it be

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possible that your body is perfectly happy where it is,
and maybe this new

weight

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is where you should be? I have no idea how tall you are,
how old, body

frame

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size, etc. But your system may very well be trying to
tell you something

(heaven

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only knows what).

Joyce <being her usual wishy-washy self>

krys said:

hi folks,

Well, I've not posted my WI in here for a few weeks -
nowt much to shout about I suppose. I went down 0.6, up
0.6, and back down 0.6 today -

which

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is a good thing.

I have been wondering though...... My weight loss
appears to have slowed down. Was that the week of
antibiotics? Inaccurate guestimations?

Or is it my excercise regime? Am I doing too much? My
TOM is late -

have I

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scared them off again? - which could be a sign I'm doing
more than my

body

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is equipped for. My swimming has crept up from 60 25m
lengths in 45 mins

to

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70 lengths in a little under that. My gym session has
gone from just

over

Quoted message said:

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an hour and c 400cals + weights, to a good 1 1/4 hours
and c: 530 cals + weights each time. I'm also walking
even more - got the spring time fidgets. Basically, I
think it may be time to up the points a bit. I

used

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to call both things 6 points each....

My question really is - should I add extra? I work on a
baseline 126

points

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a week, earn about 40/50 APs a week of which I use all
but about 13 or so....... If so - do I add to my
activity points - and call each session more points, or
do I just up my weekly ration of points to take into

account

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my more active (and presumably better metabolically)
life style?

Or do I leave well alone and wait and see what happens
next WI?

Boy - is this ever tricky.........*grin*......I want a
handbook!

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've never had to deal with the vanishing TOM's - except
when pregnant.

<G>

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Sounds like it is something you are pretty familiar with,
so probably

nothing to

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overly worry about. When you started ww and they
disappeared, were you

also

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exercising very heavily? I do wonder if this has anything
to do with it

at all

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(not that it matters, just curiousity on my part).

Nope - I'd only just started, and had lost a couple of
pounds but that was all. I was exercising, but only at the
same level as always, and by no means as much as I am now.

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I do agree, it is a huge juggling act. Rules don't seem to
fit everyone,

we all

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work differently. If my memory is correct though, I recall
your weight

being up

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about 6 pounds or so when you first ventured back here
requesting

information as

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to why you were no longer losing. The bright side is ...
you are lower

than that

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now! <G> I'm still going with the *either lower your
exercise or increase

your

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food* tactic. It seemed to work for you the first
time around.

That was my theory true - and I may yet try it, but I've
decided to weight and see what this week's WI brings...

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And if your exercise level has increased even more ...
well ... you know.

By any chance have

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you eliminated too much fat in your diet?

I could well have done - that's a very interesting thought.
I think I should take a good look at what my diet is -
though I already know there's a tad too much sugar and
alcohol in there! *grin*

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I have a tendency to do this and weightloss ceases to
exist. When I add

some good fats back into the mix, it >picks back up
again. Just a thought (I'm always thinking - maybe not
logically, but

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always thinking). <G> And another scenario which I'm not
sure has even

been

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brought up ... with all the exercise you have been
involved in, I am sure

that you

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must have built some muscle. That could very well account
for you feeling thinner, clothing being looser, yet the
scale not budging. It's only a

number,

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doesn't tell the entire story. It's my understanding that
many extremely

fit

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people actually carry higher weights, due to the muscle
involved.

Yeah - it's weird. I weigh the same now as I did this time
last year (ish), yet I can't wear the same pair of trousers.
They're fine around the waist, but now my thighs are
bigger.... Also my chest is bigger - broader etc etc. Same
weight - totally different shape!

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I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, hoping you get the
results you are

wishing

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for. Please do keep us posted.

I sure will - and I really appreciate all the feedback 🙂

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Joyce

--
krys

UK 157/129.6/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th
2001 ...a little stuck at present...

krys said:

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And if your exercise level has increased even more ...
well ... you know.

By any chance have

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you eliminated too much fat in your diet?

I could well have done - that's a very interesting thought.
I think I should take a good look at what my diet is -
though I already know there's a tad too much sugar and
alcohol in there! *grin*

Don't mention the sugar - seems I'm fighting those sugar
urges the past few days. Nothing major, just a little piece
of chocolate here and another there ... but I am definitely
consious of the desire and fighting it tooth and nail.

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I have a tendency to do this and weightloss ceases to
exist. When I add

some good fats back into the mix, it >picks back up
again. Just a thought (I'm always thinking - maybe not
logically, but

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always thinking). <G> And another scenario which I'm not
sure has even

been

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brought up ... with all the exercise you have been
involved in, I am sure

that you

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must have built some muscle. That could very well account
for you feeling thinner, clothing being looser, yet the
scale not budging. It's only a

number,

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doesn't tell the entire story. It's my understanding that
many extremely

fit

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people actually carry higher weights, due to the muscle
involved.

Yeah - it's weird. I weigh the same now as I did this time
last year (ish), yet I can't wear the same pair of
trousers. They're fine around the waist, but now my thighs
are bigger.... Also my chest is bigger - broader etc etc.
Same weight - totally different shape!

This is interesting! I hadn't thought much about it, until
this morning when I put on a pair of jeans I hadn't worn for
quite some time. They are a snugger fit (slim fit?) in the
seat and thighs. I know they fit very well when I purchased
them last spring, yet today they feel snug in the thighs -
loose in the waist. Would the thighs be from all the
treadmill I've been doing?

Joyce