Why Won't The Doctors Work?

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I found an article at cancer-prevention.net , & have rewritten & altered
this part (about doctors) some:

[Withholding Information and/or Lying To Patients]: The doctor couldn't
tell his patients, about any alternative or integrative health
therapies, and stay employed at his cancer clinic.

[Medical Monopolies & Racketeering]: Insurance regulations would
preclude such suggestions. And the doctor could get into trouble by
recommending non-drug treatments for cancer.

His advice is controlled by a large medical industry, that makes
mega-money off expensive cancer-fighting drugs and treatments. [that
is, the PHARMA lobby & cancer centers]

[No Patent, No Profits]: The medical industry doesn't look favorably on
natural supplements or other cancer treatments, ... as they cannot
patent (or make as much profit) on them.

[Bad/Wrong Training, & Bad Products]: Another reason why doctors
ignore the alternative & integrative treatments for cancer, and why they
recommend costly and illogical treatments instead -- is human nature.
They advise and prescribe what they are trained in. It is what they
know. [due to the PHARMA industry's current influence, power & control,
over medical schools.]

You go to them and you get what you ask for -- what they know. And you
assume they will do, the best they can for you, ... while in fact, they
just do what the system teaches them, promotes, and allows them to do.

Bottom line: Don't expect a doctor working inside the system, to buck
the system. The risks are too great.

[Everything the docs have, can be taken away quickly by the medical
industry.]

PM ----Well, all this only works if alternatives are known to actually do
anything much for cancer. Prove that, and all will change. So far the
track record for even the most strongly hyped alternative treatments of
cancer has been abysmal.

Peter Moran

Peter wrote:

PM ----Well, all this only works if alternatives are known to actually
do anything much for cancer. Prove that, and all will change. So far the
track record for even the most strongly hyped alternative treatments of
cancer has been abysmal.
Peter Moran

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There are already many tests (blood, urine, etc., such as those at
http://www.gsdl.com ), that I feel could dramatically improve medical
studies & care, IF they were being used. [This testing should become a
requirement in clinical trials.]

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Mineral Levels

Checking the mineral-levels/etc in the body, can help indicate what is
wrong, ... & what treatments the docs might order to help correct them.

[Such as, I've read that high copper levels can indicate high risk of
mets, spread of cancer. Molybdenum can help bring down the copper, &
prevent or better control mets.

High manganese levels can exhibit as Alzheimer's/Parkinson's-type
symptoms. When you bring this level down, it can help control the
symptoms, & slow or prevent further damage.

These tests are simple, as are these treatments. There seems no reason
not to try them, should the patient request them.

The alternative is watching a patient suffer to death horribly, because
they were forced to accept & pay for the standard/govt-approved
cr*p-care only.

This is pre-meditated, cold-blooded murder. The fact that it's
govt-sanctioned, approved & enforced, does Not matter. It's still
morally reprehensible, wrong.]

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Fewer Bad Meds?

Once these high mineral-levels/etc are tested for & confirmed, then they
can be treated, ... & not with the just the hit-and-miss
one-size-fits-all symptom-type pills & poisons.

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Lack Of Good Research

There probably won't be much if any profit$ made on the
drugs/supplements/etc, which are used to treat mineral imbalances (such
as copper or manganese), or the amino acid imbalances, ...

.... so I think the good testing is deliberately Not being used in
research studies, so that these imbalances won't be identified or
validated in those studies.

[The lack of good testing, would seem to make the research study results
much less valid, less scientific, less valued. ???]

These tests could also help determine why a treatment or drug, did or
didn't work for each patient. Or why it killed the patient.

It's important to have exact information to work with (from good
testing), ... so that the docs don't keep forcing us to buy & try one
bad medicine & treatment after another, so they don't keep harming &
almost killing us, when we're forced to seek medical care.

Maybe later on, if the researchers could start testing the DNA of their
subjects (& the doctors test DNA of their patients), ... & comparing
this with results & reactions to drugs & treatments, ... then that could
help too.

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The Importance Of Good Testing

In the meantime, if the docs would just check the mineral levels, &
maybe a few other things (like amino acid balance?) in cancer patients,
... & if they would collate this data, ... then this might help a great
deal in determining exactly what's wrong, & which treatments to use.
And it could greatly improve cancer & other medical care.

There's no reason Not to do this (other than the govt controls, which we
need to get changed).

It's easy, logical, practical, & the right thing to do.

Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

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Quoted message said:

Peter wrote:

PM ----Well, all this only works if alternatives are known to actually
do anything much for cancer. Prove that, and all will change. So far the
track record for even the most strongly hyped alternative treatments of
cancer has been abysmal.
Peter Moran

==========

There are already many tests (blood, urine, etc., such as those at
http://www.gsdl.com ), that I feel could dramatically improve medical
studies & care, IF they were being used. [This testing should become a
requirement in clinical trials.]

------------

Mineral Levels

Checking the mineral-levels/etc in the body, can help indicate what is
wrong, ... & what treatments the docs might order to help correct them.

[Such as, I've read that high copper levels can indicate high risk of
mets, spread of cancer. Molybdenum can help bring down the copper, &
prevent or better control mets.

High manganese levels can exhibit as Alzheimer's/Parkinson's-type
symptoms. When you bring this level down, it can help control the
symptoms, & slow or prevent further damage.

These tests are simple, as are these treatments. There seems no reason
not to try them, should the patient request them.

The alternative is watching a patient suffer to death horribly, because
they were forced to accept & pay for the standard/govt-approved
cr*p-care only.

This is pre-meditated, cold-blooded murder. The fact that it's
govt-sanctioned, approved & enforced, does Not matter. It's still
morally reprehensible, wrong.]

--------------

Fewer Bad Meds?

Once these high mineral-levels/etc are tested for & confirmed, then they
can be treated, ... & not with the just the hit-and-miss
one-size-fits-all symptom-type pills & poisons.

--------------

Lack Of Good Research

There probably won't be much if any profit$ made on the
drugs/supplements/etc, which are used to treat mineral imbalances (such
as copper or manganese), or the amino acid imbalances, ...

... so I think the good testing is deliberately Not being used in
research studies, so that these imbalances won't be identified or
validated in those studies.

[The lack of good testing, would seem to make the research study results
much less valid, less scientific, less valued. ???]

These tests could also help determine why a treatment or drug, did or
didn't work for each patient. Or why it killed the patient.

It's important to have exact information to work with (from good
testing), ... so that the docs don't keep forcing us to buy & try one
bad medicine & treatment after another, so they don't keep harming &
almost killing us, when we're forced to seek medical care.

Maybe later on, if the researchers could start testing the DNA of their
subjects (& the doctors test DNA of their patients), ... & comparing
this with results & reactions to drugs & treatments, ... then that could
help too.

------------

The Importance Of Good Testing

In the meantime, if the docs would just check the mineral levels, &
maybe a few other things (like amino acid balance?) in cancer patients,
.. & if they would collate this data, ... then this might help a great
deal in determining exactly what's wrong, & which treatments to use.
And it could greatly improve cancer & other medical care.

What make you think this ground hasn't been gone over again and again? We
know enough about the nature and causes of cancer to know that correcting a
simple deficiency of anything is not going to help cure it. Most
deficiencies in cancer patients e.g. of iron are an effect of the cancer
rather than having any role in its cause.

Quoted message said:

There's no reason Not to do this (other than the govt controls, which we
need to get changed).

It's easy, logical, practical, & the right thing to do.

Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

Yes, they are opinions, not plausible theory, or even reasonable
conjectures.. Do you not see that no evidence is being put forwards for
any of the claims you are quoting?

Peter Moran.

Hi Peter,

Maybe the focus shouldn't be so much on a cure, as on better controlling
the cancer, ... & on improving the quality of care & life for cancer
patients, for victims of such as sleazy medical system, ... instead of
just sadistically conning, robbing, & harming us over & over.

If you say that these tests have already been done & the treatments
tried, ... then where are the results of the ones done on mineral levels
& imbalances, on amino acid levels & imbalances, ... & on the results of
treating these? Somehow, I doubt they've been done.

Most illness is chronic, such as cancer. There probably won't be any
cures.

Since the current medical treatments do Not work & offer NO hope, ...
then why are patients being force to try them first, to waste so much
time, effort, & money on them? Why can't we have some choice, in trying
something we think might work?

I'm very angry & hurt, that the "modern medical system" seems so
backwards, ... so morally & mentally retarded, so revoltingly &
disgustingly awful, painful & horrible, expensive & wasteful, ... has so
little to offer, & so much of it so extremely harmful.

We've been super-lied-to & betrayed. There's no reason that so much
govt money, should keep going into such a failed & harmful system, ...
which has nothing of value to offer, & which only keeps pushing the
expensive cr*p-type drugs like antidepressants. None.

I've worked extremely hard to get & keep the best insurance, & that
should be worth something.

I've worked very hard to cooperate with (& survive) the current standard
cr*p-care for cancer.

And I do now deserve a chance for the good bloodwork & testing. I do
deserve a chance to fight this cancer on my own terms, & to win for a
while. I refuse to let the bad docs, take that away from me.

I don't deserve to be conned, robbed & harmed, & murdered like this, by
the won't-work docs & the failed medical system.

I'm very hopeful, that the American people will get angry & fed-up
enough, to rip the govt & medical care system apart, to tear it to
pieces, ... & then put it back together again, so it works.

Because right now, we've got nothing of value in it.

Susan, Su_Texas my opinions

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Quoted message said:

Hi Peter,

Maybe the focus shouldn't be so much on a cure, as on better controlling
the cancer, ... & on improving the quality of care & life for cancer
patients, for victims of such as sleazy medical system, ... instead of
just sadistically conning, robbing, & harming us over & over.

If you say that these tests have already been done & the treatments
tried, ... then where are the results of the ones done on mineral levels
& imbalances, on amino acid levels & imbalances, ... & on the results of
treating these?

This is old history. People have been trying to influence the course of
cancer using through mineral supplementation and nutritional means for
hundreds of years (any reasonable amount of protein in the diet will provide
all the amino acids).

Quoted message said:

Somehow, I doubt they've been done.

Most illness is chronic, such as cancer. There probably won't be any
cures.

Since the current medical treatments do Not work & offer NO hope, ...
then why are patients being force to try them first, to waste so much
time, effort, & money on them? Why can't we have some choice, in trying
something we think might work?

I'm very angry & hurt, that the "modern medical system" seems so
backwards, ... so morally & mentally retarded, so revoltingly &
disgustingly awful, painful & horrible, expensive & wasteful, ... has so
little to offer, & so much of it so extremely harmful.

The British National Health Service is as far away from the American health
system as it is possible to get, but it adheres to exactly the same kinds of
cancer treatment. You would encounter the same lack of interest (Probably
more ) in your theories on cancer there.

Quoted message said:

We've been super-lied-to & betrayed. There's no reason that so much
govt money, should keep going into such a failed & harmful system, ...
which has nothing of value to offer, & which only keeps pushing the
expensive cr*p-type drugs like antidepressants. None.

I've worked extremely hard to get & keep the best insurance, & that
should be worth something.

I've worked very hard to cooperate with (& survive) the current standard
cr*p-care for cancer.

And I do now deserve a chance for the good bloodwork & testing. I do
deserve a chance to fight this cancer on my own terms, & to win for a
while. I refuse to let the bad docs, take that away from me.

I don't deserve to be conned, robbed & harmed, & murdered like this, by
the won't-work docs & the failed medical system.

I'm very hopeful, that the American people will get angry & fed-up
enough, to rip the govt & medical care system apart, to tear it to
pieces, ... & then put it back together again, so it works.

Because right now, we've got nothing of value in it.

Are you feeling better now? Do you have cancer? Tell us about it.

Peter Moran