Why Treks are Fredly

jerry in vermont said:

To continue a previous topic from a while back, on why I wont ride a
Trek...

Here is their NEW fancy hi tech Paris Roubaix bike....with seriously
FREDDLY rear dropouts.

Yah, George is gonna look BIG PIMPIN on that sweet rig.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=photos/2006/tech/features/world_tour/disco_06a

J

My first thought when I saw that frame was to wonder if they would ever
make a cross version with that carbon YBB rear end. You never know
when your team might start using Treks. The flames bothered me more
than the dropouts.

So what is JP up to these days? It's been a while since we've heard
anything.

Bret

jerry in vermont said:

To continue a previous topic from a while back, on why I wont ride a
Trek...

Here is their NEW fancy hi tech Paris Roubaix bike....with seriously
FREDDLY rear dropouts.

Yah, George is gonna look BIG PIMPIN on that sweet rig.

Well, George is going to be riding in the big leagues bringing down the
big nickel riding that bike. How much will you earn next year racing
your non-Trek?

Apparently that's a Trek 5000 (OCLV 120) cobbled to a Klein rear end.
I agree - I think that bike is ugly as hell, but if it helps to get
over the cobbles, then I'm all for it. I rode over the cobbles in Pike
Place Market today on my usually cushy steel frame and it was hell.

Andrew F Martin said:

Apparently that's a Trek 5000 (OCLV 120) cobbled to a Klein rear end.
I agree - I think that bike is ugly as hell, but if it helps to get
over the cobbles, then I'm all for it. I rode over the cobbles in Pike
Place Market today on my usually cushy steel frame and it was hell.

I must be clueless, at least on cyclo-fashion, as I see nothing wrong with it.
At least it's obvious it should do something useful, unlike the Zertz.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:25:33 GMT, Dan Connelly

d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g said:

Andrew F Martin said:

Apparently that's a Trek 5000 (OCLV 120) cobbled to a Klein rear end.
I agree - I think that bike is ugly as hell, but if it helps to get
over the cobbles, then I'm all for it. I rode over the cobbles in Pike
Place Market today on my usually cushy steel frame and it was hell.

I must be clueless, at least on cyclo-fashion, as I see nothing wrong with it.
At least it's obvious it should do something useful, unlike the Zertz.

I am happy to be on the list to take any that the easily offended
fashion mavins want to pass along. I'll even go for the freight and
insurance, being a real nice guy and all that. Anything approximating
58c center to center will be accepted.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

The reason I think the frame is ugly is that it's mixing styles. The
front end is round and smooth 5500 style tubing. The rear seat stay
is angular and sharp. Aesthetically, it just isn't doing it for me.
I'm sure it's wonderful for gliding over the cobbles, but I'm with
Jerry in that it's one ugly-ass bike.

Andrew F Martin said:

The reason I think the frame is ugly is that it's mixing styles. The
front end is round and smooth 5500 style tubing. The rear seat stay
is angular and sharp. Aesthetically, it just isn't doing it for me.
I'm sure it's wonderful for gliding over the cobbles, but I'm with
Jerry in that it's one ugly-ass bike.

Who cares as long it rides well.

You must both be a bit gay if you get all worked up about how a bike
looks.

Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.

"Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

My first thought when I saw that frame was to wonder if they would ever
make a cross version with that carbon YBB rear end. You never know
when your team might start using Treks. The flames bothered me more
than the dropouts.

Perhaps the flames are an allusion to the "Hell" of the North, rather than a
retro hot-rod thing.

Carl Sundquist said:

Perhaps the flames are an allusion to the "Hell" of the North, rather than a
retro hot-rod thing.

I thought it was to match rbr kit.

--
E. Dronkert

Quoted message said:

My first thought when I saw that frame was to wonder if they would ever
make a cross version with that carbon YBB rear end. You never know
when your team might start using Treks. The flames bothered me more
than the dropouts.

So what is JP up to these days? It's been a while since we've heard
anything.

Bret

I almost mentioned the wicked fredly flames (what is this, american
chopper?) but didnt want to over do it. Being in a pro tour event with
those dropouts is enough.

JP is on vacation in Cypress for 5 days. No racing with euro nats.

J

Donald Munro said:

Andrew F Martin said:

The reason I think the frame is ugly is that it's mixing styles. The
front end is round and smooth 5500 style tubing. The rear seat stay
is angular and sharp. Aesthetically, it just isn't doing it for me.
I'm sure it's wonderful for gliding over the cobbles, but I'm with
Jerry in that it's one ugly-ass bike.

Who cares as long it rides well.

You must both be a bit gay if you get all worked up about how a bike
looks.

Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.

I just dont understand how a HUGE company like TREK can go ahead and
use big ass panier dropouts on a bike built for a pro tour team, with a
podium contendor for the race it is meant for! They spend an HOUR
doing QC on each team bike, but they HAD to use some big ass dinner
plate dropout? [censored], grind the extra metal off. Something. Whats
wrong with the regular dropouts that the other team bikes use?

It just lacks attention to detail and is a big ass WORT on a high level
bike.

I am all down with the zert thing in there, thats cool. Whatever. I
just think the dropout looks so out of place that any racing cyclist
you roll up to is gonna do a double take and chuckle. Big George
already has enough issues with self confidence. Dont dress him in
ger-animals in front of his freinds already.

J (wore ger-animals)

That dropout is big and bulky, but it probably won't break on him like
the newer dropouts that are hollow (on the Madone's). Trek isn't like
a small frame maker that will just machine a part - they tend to
innovate by taking what they have and cobbling it together.
Functionally it might be about right, but its still ugly as hell and
reflects the pieced-together fabrication methods that they used.

If Trek was going to pump up Hincapie as the next big thing - you can
bet they'd put real R&D into a Paris-Roubaix bike and market it to the
masses. Too bad the masses don't care about PR.

In article <YVSwf.112987$oG.29229@dukeread02>,

Carl Sundquist said:

"Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

My first thought when I saw that frame was to wonder if they would ever
make a cross version with that carbon YBB rear end. You never know
when your team might start using Treks. The flames bothered me more
than the dropouts.

Perhaps the flames are an allusion to the "Hell" of the North, rather than a
retro hot-rod thing.

Does not look like flames to me. Looks like spew.

--
Michael Press

Yeah - I think "One-offs" is more correct than prototypes:

http://www.trekbikes.com/images/bikes/2005/road/large/5000.jpg

It's got the same rear drops as the 5000. Just hack off the y-stay
above the brake mount, glue the Klein seat stays to the big dropout,
and insert the S.P.A. elastomer between hacked frame and top of seat
stays. Ready for Roubaix.

Robin Williams buy's the bike from Discovery after George wins Roubaix
for a $1m donation to the LAF. Never see it again.

Carl Sundquist said:

"Bret" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

My first thought when I saw that frame was to wonder if they would ever
make a cross version with that carbon YBB rear end. You never know
when your team might start using Treks. The flames bothered me more
than the dropouts.

Perhaps the flames are an allusion to the "Hell" of the North, rather than a
retro hot-rod thing.

A retro hot-rod thing would be cool.

I'm old and stuff so I'd go pearl white with red-orange-yellow flame with a fine
pinstripe outline to bring it out

Ron

Andrew F Martin said:

Yeah - I think "One-offs" is more correct than prototypes:

http://www.trekbikes.com/images/bikes/2005/road/large/5000.jpg

It's got the same rear drops as the 5000. Just hack off the y-stay
above the brake mount, glue the Klein seat stays to the big dropout,
and insert the S.P.A. elastomer between hacked frame and top of seat
stays. Ready for Roubaix.

Robin Williams buy's the bike from Discovery after George wins Roubaix
for a $1m donation to the LAF. Never see it again.

Man, I usually like straight blade forks, but the trek front end has
just always looked wrong to me. that picture really shows it. the
whole balance of the bike seems off. i cant put my finger on it, but
the fork is part of it.

add in the tall socks they all wear on disco and lances triple ring
pedalling style, and its a fred fest over there.

at least george is pretty on the bike, and tall enough to pull off the
socks.

J (5'-7" ankle sock guy)

Me wrote:

plonk

Me said:

Butt wait!! "Assmunch" Me is right up "Me" my ass!! in
second place! i can't help it because i was droped
on my head two many times when i was a baby
2 years ago

that sounds about right.

Didn't "plonk" go out of style in 1998?

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Quoted message said:

To continue a previous topic from a while back, on why I wont ride a
Trek...

Here is their NEW fancy hi tech Paris Roubaix bike....with seriously
FREDDLY rear dropouts.

Yah, George is gonna look BIG PIMPIN on that sweet rig.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=photos/2006/tech/features/world_tour/disco_06a

J

Looks like last years rig-

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/apr05/roubaix05/tech/?id=discovery-t-mobile/gallery-discovery-t-mobile