Why the change?

[wafflycat]

"Alan Braggins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> wafflycat wrote:
>>"Mike Causer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Once you've ridden a properly suspended bike, not a £49.99 special, you
>>> understand how good it can be. Of course you can't stomp the pedals,
>>> and
>>> are forced to sit and spin, just as on a 'bent.
>>
>>So where does one get these £49.99 special Trices then?
>
> What makes you think a Trice is not properly suspended?

Did I say it wasn't?

Cheers, helen s

 

[Tony Raven]

John B wrote:
>
> Tony Raven wrote:
>
>> John B wrote:
>>>> Replacing the Brommie rubber block with a Birdy yellow elastomer
>>>> stiffens it up substantially. Apart from a little bit of Stanley
>>>> knife work on the two ends of the central hole, they are a direct
>>>> swap.
>>> Many thanks for the tip. Do you know where I can get one?
>> A Birdy dealer?
>
> Doh ;-)
> There isn't one for a million miles.
> I suppose it will have to be mail order to somwhere then, but the
> hoseclip idea might be worth trying first.
>

You could always try Kinetics
http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/spare_parts1.shtml

--
Tony

"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham

 

[Phil Cook]

Peter Clinch wrote:

>wafflycat wrote:
>> My 'bent is an IceT, the entry-level 'bent from Trice. Got it Christmas
>> 2004. It's not the speediest machine, but it's very comfortable, and
>> lovely to use. I see that Trice have completely revamped the entry-level
>> machines, to put rear suspension on all of them. I can't fathom out why
>> rear suspension is warranted.

>Lots of perfectly satisfactory things have been "improved" just to
>look fancier, but some really do get better. There was nothing
>/wrong/ with friction shifters on the downtube, but how many people
>really can't see any point in indexed shifters built into the
>hoods? Don't knock it until you've tried it, in other words: I
>think the ICE boys know their stuff when it comes to engineering
>and aren't in the business of pointless gimmickry.

Isn't one of the side effects of the new rear end that it can now fold
under in a Brompton/Birdy stylee?
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

 

[John B]

Tony Raven wrote:

>
> >>>> Replacing the Brommie rubber block with a Birdy yellow elastomer
> >>>> stiffens it up substantially. Apart from a little bit of Stanley
>
> > Doh ;-)
> > There isn't one for a million miles.
> > I suppose it will have to be mail order to somwhere then, but the
> > hoseclip idea might be worth trying first.
> >
>
> You could always try Kinetics
> http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/spare_parts1.shtml
>

Very many thanks - appreciated Tony.
I'll send off tomorrow.
The site has reminded me to get some new tyres too - presently Bromptons
own which slip too much and hate drain covers
Will probably go for Marathons - unless of course anyone has other
suggestions.

John B

 

[David Martin]

Phil Cook wrote:
> Isn't one of the side effects of the new rear end that it can now fold
> under in a Brompton/Birdy stylee?

That'll stop it falling over when you park it then.. Oh, hang on...

IGMC

...d

 

[Arthur Clune]

Mike Causer wrote:
>
> Once you've ridden a properly suspended bike, not a ?49.99 special, you
> understand how good it can be. Of course you can't stomp the pedals, and
> are forced to sit and spin, just as on a 'bent.
>

I've tried various types of suspended bike, including a moulton and didn't
like any of them for road use. I want something that's stiff, something that
goes when you stamp on the pedals. Something I can welly up hills in a
big gear.

Instead of getting suspension I might as well grow a beard and ride a
Galaxy everywhere at 13 mph

Offroad is rather different - full sus is the way to go there for everything
except groomed race courses (and even then, a little bit can be a good thing)

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune

 

[Peter Clinch]

Arthur Clune wrote:

> I've tried various types of suspended bike, including a moulton
> and didn't like any of them for road use. I want something
> that's stiff, something that goes when you stamp on the pedals.
> Something I can welly up hills in a big gear.

If that's what you like that's what you should have. But having
been of similar mind a few years ago, I really learned to spin up
hills when the first 'bent gave me no option, and now I prefer to
take uprights up hills from the saddle at high cadence as well.

And it's quite noticeable how much better a suspended bike is at
going down the other side, especially on bumpy country roads. Even
on the flat I've easily overtaken a carbon framed Look ridden by a
younger, fitter and usually faster friend when the road surface had
enough features that my suspension let my bike and me go forwards
rather than up and down a lot. And that was without a load of
touring luggage added.

> Instead of getting suspension I might as well grow a beard and
> ride a Galaxy everywhere at 13 mph

You'll need luggage too, of course, and 4 unsuspended panniers
compared to a fully suspended load on yellow or white roads can
make quite a chunk of difference. I note the 'T' in the name of
Helen's trike stands for "Touring"...

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

 

[Alan Braggins]

In article <[email protected]>, wafflycat wrote:
>
>"Alan Braggins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> wafflycat wrote:
>>>"Mike Causer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> Once you've ridden a properly suspended bike, not a £49.99 special, you
>>>> understand how good it can be. Of course you can't stomp the pedals,
>>>> and
>>>> are forced to sit and spin, just as on a 'bent.
>>>
>>>So where does one get these £49.99 special Trices then?
>>
>> What makes you think a Trice is not properly suspended?
>
>Did I say it wasn't?

If you knew it was properly suspended, then "where does one get these
\xa349.99 special Trices" would have been a stupid question, since no-one
suggested you could get properly suspended bikes for \xa349.99.

 

[Dave Larrington]

In article <[email protected]>,
wafflycat (w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com) wrote:
> My 'bent is an IceT, the entry-level 'bent from Trice. Got it Christmas
> 2004. It's not the speediest machine, but it's very comfortable, and lovely
> to use. I see that Trice have completely revamped the entry-level machines,
> to put rear suspension on all of them. I can't fathom out why rear
> suspension is warranted. Even on the uneven surfaces of Norfolk country
> lanes, there's never been a time when I've been out on the 'bent thinking,
> "I think this thing needs suspension"

After finishing the Tour of the Hills with a pounding headache last
year, I found myself wishing that I had opted for the suspended rear end
on my Trice, but that's been the only time. Alternatively, I could have
ridden the Speedmachine instead, which I think I would were I to do said
ride again. Sadly it clashes with a race this year...

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Although the hippopotamus hath no sting in its tail, the wise man would
rather be seated upon the back of a bee.

 

[MartinM]

Dave Larrington wrote:

> After finishing the Tour of the Hills with a pounding headache last
> year, I found myself wishing that I had opted for the suspended rear end
> on my Trice, but that's been the only time. Alternatively, I could have
> ridden the Speedmachine instead, which I think I would were I to do said
> ride again. Sadly it clashes with a race this year...

(checks AUK calendar hoping it clashes with the M family holiday to
parts Greek) Bah; it doesn't. I sense bad karma, especially around the
White Down area.