why oh why have I stalled?

"S t a c i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost 6
pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to lose
according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then, nothing.

I'm sticking to less than 30 carbs a day, and last week I started
exercising - I did a 40-minute aerobic workout 5 times (over 5 days). I

was

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really hoping that the workouts would jump start weight loss! Also,
according to FitDay, I'm burning way more calories than I'm consuming.

I'm still determined to stick this out, but I have to say that I'm not as
optimistic as I was...

Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And 2
glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I

realize

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these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits are so
dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be seeing
changes?

Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a day,
because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs and

some

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bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.
Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week. No

diet

Quoted message said:

sodas, no fake foods. And I read the NG every day.

In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4 days.
I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

Any words of encouragement or advice?

Yes.

Every human body is different. Yours is different from mine, and mine is
different from Saffy's or Carol's or anyone elses.

Enjoy and live your life. Unless you're morbidly obese, where your weight
is life-threatening, don't worry about it. Live and enjoy the new
lifestyle, and realize that weight control is now in your hands. It may
take awhile, but it will happen. In the meantime, work for your future.
Your goals are there in front of you, and you will find them.

You eat too much.

--
You don't have a under active thyroid, you have an over active fork.

"S t a c i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost 6
pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to lose
according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then, nothing.

I'm sticking to less than 30 carbs a day, and last week I started
exercising - I did a 40-minute aerobic workout 5 times (over 5 days). I

was

Quoted message said:

really hoping that the workouts would jump start weight loss! Also,
according to FitDay, I'm burning way more calories than I'm consuming.

I'm still determined to stick this out, but I have to say that I'm not as
optimistic as I was...

Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And 2
glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I

realize

Quoted message said:

these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits are so
dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be seeing
changes?

Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a day,
because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs and

some

Quoted message said:

bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.
Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week. No

diet

Quoted message said:

sodas, no fake foods. And I read the NG every day.

In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4 days.
I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

Any words of encouragement or advice?
S t a c i
36 years old/5'11" (yes, a tall woman)
213/189/170
Started Atkins last summer and lost 18 pounds, didn't gain it back.

Started

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again this summer and have lost 6. Sticking with it this time!

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I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost 6
pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to lose
according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then, nothing.

You really can't measure a stall in terms of weeks. If you haven't lost
inches or lbs in an entire month or two, then you have stalled. A couple
weeks is normal, and may make up for lost time in another week or two.

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I'm still determined to stick this out, but I have to say that I'm not as
optimistic as I was...

Stay optimistic! You're making progress. Realistically, we don't lose
weight every week. If we go back and average our weight loss for the month,
it's generally 1 to 2 lbs a week. I could lose 8 lbs in one month where 2
weeks of which I lost nothing (it has happened).

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Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And 2
glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer).

You could try cutting both of them out just to see if makes a difference.
Or maybe cut one out for a week, then the other one?

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Any words of encouragement or advice?
S t a c i
36 years old/5'11" (yes, a tall woman)
213/189/170

Yay! Another tall woman my height. 🙂 Even with the same goal weight...
ahhhh, so refreshing. 🙂

Just stick it out. You'll be happy you did.

--
Spring
LC since 1/1/04
260/208/170
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sprgsnow/album?.tok=phX4sVBBuvxvs4Hs&.dir=/55b8&.src=ph
Size: 24W / 14 / 10

Am Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:20:49 +0200 S t a c i: wrote

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I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost 6
pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to lose
according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then, nothing.

Staci, just take it easy... don't go bonkers about the scale... keep up the
good work and you will see the results.

I know exactly what you are going through. After initial weight loss of the
first two weeks I even gained weight - about 1 1/2 lb (*ugh*) but now I'm
losing again. Weight swings and mini-stalls might also be a question of TOM
- this time of the month... most women tend to gain water weight during
menstruation. These can be ridiculous fluctuations, sometimes I can *see*
the darn water in my legs *sigh*.

I have just finished week 6, too... care for a diet buddy? 😉

Quoted message said:

Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And 2
glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I realize
these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits are so
dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be seeing
changes?

You might want to go easy on the wine. It does have carbs, the main pitfall
in wine is that the liver does the detoxification and it is the liver which
helps to get rid of the fat... if it is busy processing alcohol it cannot
work on the fats.

Quoted message said:

Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a day,
because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs and some
bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.
Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week. No diet
sodas, no fake foods.

sounds great - you do get enough calories, do you? don't be fooled into
starvation mode. I feel it is easy for me to eat too little (which is a
nice change, after all).

Quoted message said:

In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4 days.
I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

Just what I thought before I stepped on the scale yesterday. If it makes
you feel better, just do it.

Petra
35 years old / 5'9"
217/208/150

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Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And 2
glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I

realize

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these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits are so
dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be seeing
changes?

Yep, the caffeine could cause a stall. Also, you should cut out the wine.
Atkins wrote in his book that when you drink alcohol, your body will burn
that first and not burn fat. Get decaf tea. It isn't so different from
regular tea that you'll notice.

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Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a day,
because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs and

some bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.

I have read that when you eat less during the day, your body readjusts and
your metabolism slows down. This could be a problem. Haven't you ever
noticed those body builders always say to eat 6 times a day? So, you should
be eating at least 3 times a day.

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Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week. No

diet sodas, no fake foods. And I read the NG every day.

Quoted message said:

In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4

days. I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

Quoted message said:

Any words of encouragement or advice?
S t a c i

Also, you should cut out the wine.

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Atkins wrote in his book that when you drink alcohol, your body will burn
that first and not burn fat.

For every serving of wine (5 ounces), you slow down fat burning by about 78%
in a period of 1-2 hours.

It takes years to pack the pounds on. I can live with a minor slow down for
1 to 2 hours.

Atkins, Agatston, and Eades say wine's okay. Enjoy.

Moderation, Not Deprivation

Besides completely cutting the wine, I think this is the most important
thing too. You have to keep your metabolism up and that means eating at
least 3 meals a day spaced no more than 6 hours apart, with the exception
of overnight while you sleep, of course. I was like you pre-LC...I hadn't
eaten breakfast since I was in high school and couldn't imagine eating in
the morning. But I got used to it pretty easily and now can't imagine
skipping it. :-)
What you've listed as your average daily food consumption also makes me
wonder if you're getting enough calories for your BMR (Basal Metabolic
Rate)? Too few calories also causes your metabolism to slow down.
I'm not doing Atkins, but they have a good article on it here:

http://www.countcarbs.com/advice/LCG_CountCarbs_CountCalories_WhatGives.htm

Pat said:

I have read that when you eat less during the day, your body readjusts and
your metabolism slows down. This could be a problem. Haven't you ever
noticed those body builders always say to eat 6 times a day? So, you should
be eating at least 3 times a day.

-----
Bev

Thank you, Jim. I'm feeling a little more reasonable now that several hours
have passed since I did my weekly weigh-in/tape measure. I appreciate your
thoughts.

S t a c i

"Jim Bard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"S t a c i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost 6
pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to lose
according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then, nothing.

I'm sticking to less than 30 carbs a day, and last week I started
exercising - I did a 40-minute aerobic workout 5 times (over 5 days). I

was

Quoted message said:

really hoping that the workouts would jump start weight loss! Also,
according to FitDay, I'm burning way more calories than I'm consuming.

I'm still determined to stick this out, but I have to say that I'm not

as

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

optimistic as I was...

Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And 2
glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I

realize

Quoted message said:

these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits are

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be seeing
changes?

Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a day,
because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs and

some

Quoted message said:

bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.
Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week. No

diet

Quoted message said:

sodas, no fake foods. And I read the NG every day.

In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4

days.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

Any words of encouragement or advice?

Yes.

Every human body is different. Yours is different from mine, and mine is
different from Saffy's or Carol's or anyone elses.

Enjoy and live your life. Unless you're morbidly obese, where your weight
is life-threatening, don't worry about it. Live and enjoy the new
lifestyle, and realize that weight control is now in your hands. It may
take awhile, but it will happen. In the meantime, work for your future.
Your goals are there in front of you, and you will find them.

You know, it is possible that I'm not eating enough. I'm just not hungry.
After a late breakfast (10am or so), I'm good until dinner...but looks like
that could be a problem!

I'm going to do my best to add an afternoon salad, maybe a few almonds, too.
My new favorite veggie is watercress...I just eat it plain with some
homemade salad dressing. Watercress has so much flavor compared to other
greens!

Thanks for your help, Petra!
S t a c i

"Petra Hildebrandt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Am Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:20:49 +0200 S t a c i: wrote

Quoted message said:

I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost 6
pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to lose
according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then, nothing.

Staci, just take it easy... don't go bonkers about the scale... keep up

the

Quoted message said:

good work and you will see the results.

I know exactly what you are going through. After initial weight loss of

the

Quoted message said:

first two weeks I even gained weight - about 1 1/2 lb (*ugh*) but now I'm
losing again. Weight swings and mini-stalls might also be a question of

TOM

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- this time of the month... most women tend to gain water weight during
menstruation. These can be ridiculous fluctuations, sometimes I can *see*
the darn water in my legs *sigh*.

I have just finished week 6, too... care for a diet buddy? 😉

Quoted message said:

Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And 2
glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I

realize

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits are

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be seeing
changes?

You might want to go easy on the wine. It does have carbs, the main

pitfall

Quoted message said:

in wine is that the liver does the detoxification and it is the liver

which

Quoted message said:

helps to get rid of the fat... if it is busy processing alcohol it cannot
work on the fats.

Quoted message said:

Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a day,
because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs and

some

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.
Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week. No

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sodas, no fake foods.

sounds great - you do get enough calories, do you? don't be fooled into
starvation mode. I feel it is easy for me to eat too little (which is a
nice change, after all).

Quoted message said:

In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4

days.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

Just what I thought before I stepped on the scale yesterday. If it makes
you feel better, just do it.

Petra
35 years old / 5'9"
217/208/150

"Bev-Ann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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What you've listed as your average daily food consumption also makes me
wonder if you're getting enough calories for your BMR (Basal Metabolic
Rate)? Too few calories also causes your metabolism to slow down.
I'm not doing Atkins, but they have a good article on it here:

http://www.countcarbs.com/advice/LCG_CountCarbs_CountCalories_WhatGives.htm

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Bev - that is a great article, and I think you're right. I just did the
online calculator, and I haven't (most days) been eating calories equal to
my BMR. The article says that "starvation mode", or slowing down metabolism
can happen in as little as a week!

So far, I've been sporatically using FitDay to make sure I don't eat too
many calories...I'm going to start using it faithfully now to make sure I'm
hitting my BMR.

Thank you!
S t a c i

LOL

Yeah, people in Ethiopia have had the same problem. I wonder why you don't
look the same as they do.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"S t a c i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know, it is possible that I'm not eating enough.

I think most of us are still programmed to think that the fewer calories
the better. It's a difficult concept to think that we can go too low.
The other problem with eating below your BMR is that your body will consume
muscle tissue so even if you do manage to lose weight, you end up looking
like a concentration camp survivor.
FitDay is a great tool. I use it every day.

S t a c i said:

Bev - that is a great article, and I think you're right. I just did the
online calculator, and I haven't (most days) been eating calories equal to
my BMR. The article says that "starvation mode", or slowing down metabolism
can happen in as little as a week!

So far, I've been sporatically using FitDay to make sure I don't eat too
many calories...I'm going to start using it faithfully now to make sure I'm
hitting my BMR.

Thank you!
S t a c i

-----
Bev

You complained about a stall, and now claim you are not eating enough. This
is a delusion.

Have you tried http://www.FitDay.com ?

"S t a c i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know, it is possible that I'm not eating enough. I'm just not hungry.
After a late breakfast (10am or so), I'm good until dinner...but looks

like

Quoted message said:

that could be a problem!

I'm going to do my best to add an afternoon salad, maybe a few almonds,

too.

Quoted message said:

My new favorite veggie is watercress...I just eat it plain with some
homemade salad dressing. Watercress has so much flavor compared to other
greens!

Thanks for your help, Petra!
S t a c i

"Petra Hildebrandt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Am Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:20:49 +0200 S t a c i: wrote

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I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost 6
pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to lose
according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then, nothing.

Staci, just take it easy... don't go bonkers about the scale... keep up

the

Quoted message said:

good work and you will see the results.

I know exactly what you are going through. After initial weight loss of

the

Quoted message said:

first two weeks I even gained weight - about 1 1/2 lb (*ugh*) but now

I'm

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

losing again. Weight swings and mini-stalls might also be a question of

TOM

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- this time of the month... most women tend to gain water weight during
menstruation. These can be ridiculous fluctuations, sometimes I can

*see*

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the darn water in my legs *sigh*.

I have just finished week 6, too... care for a diet buddy? 😉

Quoted message said:

Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in the
morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink. And

2

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a big
difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I

realize

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits

are

Quoted message said:

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be

seeing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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changes?

You might want to go easy on the wine. It does have carbs, the main

pitfall

Quoted message said:

in wine is that the liver does the detoxification and it is the liver

which

Quoted message said:

helps to get rid of the fat... if it is busy processing alcohol it

cannot

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

work on the fats.

Quoted message said:

Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a day,
because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs and

some

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.
Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week. No

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

sodas, no fake foods.

sounds great - you do get enough calories, do you? don't be fooled into
starvation mode. I feel it is easy for me to eat too little (which is a
nice change, after all).

Quoted message said:

In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4

days.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

Just what I thought before I stepped on the scale yesterday. If it makes
you feel better, just do it.

Petra
35 years old / 5'9"
217/208/150

S t a c i said:

I'm sticking to less than 30 carbs a day, and last week I started
exercising - I did a 40-minute aerobic workout 5 times (over 5 days). I was
really hoping that the workouts would jump start weight loss! Also,
according to FitDay, I'm burning way more calories than I'm consuming.

Fitday is known for grossly overestimating calories burned, unless you
enter sedentary for activity level, and add activities individually.

--
jamie ([email hidden])

"There's a seeker born every minute."

Yes, I've used FitDay sporatically, but now I'll use it every day.

Doesn't it make sense that I need to eat enough calories to maintain heart
and brain function, and not doing so could slow down my metabolism? Or do
you think there is a flaw in that thinking? Honest question.

Looks like I've been eating around 1200 calories a day, which is 400
calories less than my BMR.

S t a c i

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You complained about a stall, and now claim you are not eating enough.

This

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is a delusion.

Have you tried http://www.FitDay.com ?

"S t a c i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know, it is possible that I'm not eating enough. I'm just not

hungry.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

After a late breakfast (10am or so), I'm good until dinner...but looks

like

Quoted message said:

that could be a problem!

I'm going to do my best to add an afternoon salad, maybe a few almonds,

too.

Quoted message said:

My new favorite veggie is watercress...I just eat it plain with some
homemade salad dressing. Watercress has so much flavor compared to

other

Quoted message said:

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greens!

Thanks for your help, Petra!
S t a c i

"Petra Hildebrandt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Am Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:20:49 +0200 S t a c i: wrote

> I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and lost

6

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> pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to

lose

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> according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then,

nothing.

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>
Staci, just take it easy... don't go bonkers about the scale... keep

up

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the

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good work and you will see the results.

I know exactly what you are going through. After initial weight loss

of

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the

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first two weeks I even gained weight - about 1 1/2 lb (*ugh*) but now

I'm

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losing again. Weight swings and mini-stalls might also be a question

of

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TOM

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- this time of the month... most women tend to gain water weight

during

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menstruation. These can be ridiculous fluctuations, sometimes I can

*see*

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Quoted message said:

the darn water in my legs *sigh*.

I have just finished week 6, too... care for a diet buddy? 😉

> Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in

the

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> morning. Much less than the whole pot of coffee I used to drink.

And

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2

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> glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a

big

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> difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer). I

realize

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> these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise habits

are

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so

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> dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be

seeing

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> changes?

You might want to go easy on the wine. It does have carbs, the main

pitfall

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in wine is that the liver does the detoxification and it is the liver

which

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helps to get rid of the fat... if it is busy processing alcohol it

cannot

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work on the fats.

> Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a

day,

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> because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs

and

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> Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week.

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> sodas, no fake foods.

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starvation mode. I feel it is easy for me to eat too little (which is

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> In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or 4

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> I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...

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you feel better, just do it.

Petra
35 years old / 5'9"
217/208/150

I don't eat packaged "fake" low-carb foods at all, since they aren't even
available here in Holland. I do, however, have 3-5 Splenda packets a week.
(My mom sends me Splenda from the US.)

S t a c i

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Some notes. You could be miscounting carbs. You could be eating too
much. You may need to exercise a bit more. It may be a normal stall
and you need to give it more time, although possibly modifying some
issues that I mentioned. Do you eat any fake low carb junk food ro
candy bars and count only net carbs?

i

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Some notes. You could be miscounting carbs. You could be eating too
much. You may need to exercise a bit more.

One thing that many people overlook is that newly-introduced exercise can
cause various things to happen in your body that will look like a stall -
you start adding muscle mass (weight up, volume down) and can start
retaining water (weight up, volume up) as it takes the place of fat in
your fat cells. Then, as you eventually lose more weight, your
weight-bearing muscles may lose mass as they adjust downward to the
lighter load.

When I started exercising again (first weight training, then
walking/hiking), I 'stalled' for quite a while, first on weight, then on
size, but this was followed by a significant 'whoosh', followed by two
months during which I went down two pants sizes without losing so much as
a pound.

It's a complex equation and the scale doesn't tell much of the story. I
think the time is coming when we'll have the technology to do easy, quick,
and accurate measures of body composition so that 'weight' in and of
itself is no longer the sole focus.

Dan
325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

If FitDay shows that you are really averaging 1200 per day, that should be
fine. You just need time. For many though, estimating calories without
weighing portions or using software to track leads to underestimating
calories. There have been studies that show a human tendency to
underestimate.

IMHO: The ideas about reduced metabolism are exaggerated. In my experience,
if the calories are low enough, I lose weight. If I triggered a metabolic
slowdown (and this is likely), the net result still allowed weight loss.

600 calories per day is in the danger zone.

Cubit

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Yes, I've used FitDay sporatically, but now I'll use it every day.

Doesn't it make sense that I need to eat enough calories to maintain heart
and brain function, and not doing so could slow down my metabolism? Or do
you think there is a flaw in that thinking? Honest question.

Looks like I've been eating around 1200 calories a day, which is 400
calories less than my BMR.

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You complained about a stall, and now claim you are not eating enough.

This

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is a delusion.

Have you tried http://www.FitDay.com ?

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You know, it is possible that I'm not eating enough. I'm just not

hungry.

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After a late breakfast (10am or so), I'm good until dinner...but looks

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that could be a problem!

I'm going to do my best to add an afternoon salad, maybe a few

almonds,

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too.

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My new favorite veggie is watercress...I just eat it plain with some
homemade salad dressing. Watercress has so much flavor compared to

other

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greens!

Thanks for your help, Petra!
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> Am Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:20:49 +0200 S t a c i: wrote
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> > I'm 6 weeks into Atkins now. Did the 2 weeks of Induction and

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> > pounds. I haven't lost any weight since then, but I continued to

lose

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> > according to measuring tape until two weeks ago. Since then,

nothing.

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> Staci, just take it easy... don't go bonkers about the scale... keep

up

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> good work and you will see the results.
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> I know exactly what you are going through. After initial weight loss

of

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> first two weeks I even gained weight - about 1 1/2 lb (*ugh*) but

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> losing again. Weight swings and mini-stalls might also be a question

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TOM
> - this time of the month... most women tend to gain water weight

during

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> menstruation. These can be ridiculous fluctuations, sometimes I can

*see*

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> the darn water in my legs *sigh*.
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> I have just finished week 6, too... care for a diet buddy? 😉
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> > Possible pitfalls...I've reintroduced caffeine - 2 cups of tea in

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> > glasses of dry white wine or rose in the evenings, which is also a

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> > difference from the beer I used to enjoy (now that it's summer).

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> > these could be pitfalls - but overall my eating and exercise

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> > dramatically different from what they were, shouldn't I still be

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> You might want to go easy on the wine. It does have carbs, the main
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> in wine is that the liver does the detoxification and it is the

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> > Cravings are not an issue for me. I'm really only eating twice a

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> > because I can't imagine eating any more than that. Couple of eggs

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> > bacon around noon, and a double-veggie and grilled meat dinner.
> > Occasionally some berries & cream for dessert - maybe once a week.

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> > sodas, no fake foods.
>
> sounds great - you do get enough calories, do you? don't be fooled

into

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> starvation mode. I feel it is easy for me to eat too little (which

is

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> nice change, after all).
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> > In the ANDR book, Atkins suggests going back on Induction for 3 or

4

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days.
> > I guess I'll give that a try, and keep up my workout schedule...
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> Just what I thought before I stepped on the scale yesterday. If it

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> you feel better, just do it.
>
> Petra
> 35 years old / 5'9"
> 217/208/150

Cubit said:

If FitDay shows that you are really averaging 1200 per day, that should
be
fine. You just need time. For many though, estimating calories without
weighing portions or using software to track leads to underestimating
calories. There have been studies that show a human tendency to
underestimate.

IMHO: The ideas about reduced metabolism are exaggerated. In my
experience,
if the calories are low enough, I lose weight. If I triggered a
metabolic
slowdown (and this is likely), the net result still allowed weight loss.

600 calories per day is in the danger zone.

Cubit

Plus, even if reduced metabolism occurs with lower calorie intake, you can
vary your calorie intake to attemp to prevent the metabolism reduction.

--
Bob in CT
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