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Why no polished aluminum frames?

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  1. When I bought my first quality MTB, I bought a Mongoose Rockadile SX, which
    had a polished aluminum frame. The shops were full of shiny polished frames,
    both road and MTB. My head tube cracked, due to my neglect, so I was forced
    to buy a new frame. NOBODY offers a polished frame. Is this a matter of the
    frames being too labor intensive, or just a matter of fashion? Shame,
    because I think it's a nice look, especially when it's freshly washed and
    polished.

  2. Gooserider said:

    When I bought my first quality MTB, I bought a Mongoose Rockadile SX,
    which had a polished aluminum frame. The shops were full of shiny
    polished frames, both road and MTB. My head tube cracked, due to my
    neglect, so I was forced to buy a new frame. NOBODY offers a polished
    frame. Is this a matter of the frames being too labor intensive, or
    just a matter of fashion? Shame, because I think it's a nice look,
    especially when it's freshly washed and polished.

    It's probably both. It does cost more to polish a frame than to paint it. But
    if the public demanded it, bike makers would find a way to offer it.

    Polishing does seem to come and go. I've even seen a few half-painted,
    half-polished frames lately.

    Matt O.

  3. Matt O'Toole said:
    Gooserider said:

    When I bought my first quality MTB, I bought a Mongoose Rockadile SX,
    which had a polished aluminum frame. The shops were full of shiny
    polished frames, both road and MTB. My head tube cracked, due to my
    neglect, so I was forced to buy a new frame. NOBODY offers a polished
    frame. Is this a matter of the frames being too labor intensive, or
    just a matter of fashion? Shame, because I think it's a nice look,
    especially when it's freshly washed and polished.

    It's probably both. It does cost more to polish a frame than to paint it. But
    if the public demanded it, bike makers would find a way to offer it.

    Polishing does seem to come and go. I've even seen a few half-painted,
    half-polished frames lately.

    Matt O.


    My Marin Larkspur (2001 editon?) had a nice brushed aluminum frame with
    a plastic coat. Looked good. I peeled the decals off just to improve
    the look. I liked it. Don't they do that any more?
    Bernie

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Gooserider said:

    When I bought my first quality MTB, I bought a Mongoose Rockadile SX, which
    had a polished aluminum frame. The shops were full of shiny polished frames,
    both road and MTB. My head tube cracked, due to my neglect, so I was forced
    to buy a new frame. NOBODY offers a polished frame. Is this a matter of the
    frames being too labor intensive, or just a matter of fashion? Shame,
    because I think it's a nice look, especially when it's freshly washed and
    polished.

    Just a guess on my part, but maybe it's done so
    after-sales painting of the frame is an option
    left to the buyer, and powdercoat sticks better
    to brushed aluminum?

    cheers,
    Tom

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  5. "Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    NOBODY offers a polished frame.


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    I'd guess its a combination of labor, exposing every imperfect weld,
    and people complained about fingerprints.

    Along those lines though, is anyone aware of a shop anywhere that
    could strip the paint off a frame, brush it, and anodize it to prevent
    oxidation? The paint on my tandem is ok, but seems to chip pretty
    easily, exposing a reddish primer. I would just as soon plan to strip
    it and leave it bare someday....

    sources?

    d

  6. dan baker said:

    "Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    NOBODY offers a polished frame.


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    I'd guess its a combination of labor, exposing every imperfect weld,
    and people complained about fingerprints.

    All these things, but mostly labor. It *does* cost a lot to polish a frame.
    Most factory polished frames are then clearcoated too, to prevent fingerprints
    and oxidation.

    Quoted message said:

    Along those lines though, is anyone aware of a shop anywhere that
    could strip the paint off a frame, brush it, and anodize it to prevent
    oxidation? The paint on my tandem is ok, but seems to chip pretty
    easily, exposing a reddish primer. I would just as soon plan to strip
    it and leave it bare someday....

    You could do all these things yourself, except the anodizing. Chemical
    strippers (try an aircraft or marine supply store) are the best/fastest way to
    remove paint. From there, you could polish it yourself using something like
    Simichrome or Met-all, or "brush" it with steel wool.

    Some small frame makers would sell you a plain polished frame, and tell you to
    use steel wool or metal polish to maintain its appearance. This
    "self-maintainable" finish was a selling point, especially in the early days of
    mountain biking when bikes were expensive and would get beat up a lot. b Metal
    polish has wax/silicone in it to prevent oxidation, and it works pretty well.

    I've stripped and polished a couple of frames, and a whole lot of sailboat
    parts. It's a lot of work, but once it's done, it's easy to maintain.

    Anodizing is cheap in large quantities, but for one-offs it's quite expensive --
    perhaps more than a good paint job, and certainly more than powdercoat.

    GT sold anodized MTB frames for a long time. Some were clearcoated over the
    anodizing, some not. Santa Cruz sells both anodized and polished -- and
    polished costs extra.

    Matt O.

  7. Aluminum CAN and does oxidize over time, although more slowly than
    steel. Typically it will take on a dull look and white powdery oxide
    forms on its surface. I suppose if you keep it shiny and
    well-polished, the oxide formation will be minimal. However, that
    approach is not typical of most bike owners.

  8. (dan baker) said:

    "Gooserider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    NOBODY offers a polished frame.


    --------
    I'd guess its a combination of labor, exposing every imperfect weld,
    and people complained about fingerprints.

    Along those lines though, is anyone aware of a shop anywhere that
    could strip the paint off a frame, brush it, and anodize it to prevent
    oxidation? The paint on my tandem is ok, but seems to chip pretty
    easily, exposing a reddish primer. I would just as soon plan to strip
    it and leave it bare someday....

    sources?

    d

    That is a pretty big item to anodize, but I'm sure there are some
    plating houses that can do it for you. Stripping it might be a task
    though.

    I wouldn't recommend leaving the aluminum bare. You should clear coat
    it.

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