Why No Dogs?

C.M. Burns said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.
I could not imagine a grand tour in the USA (or an equal dog-loving
England) where some moron wouldn't bring his/her dog along to cheer,
bark at, terrorize the passing riders (I know I would).
Or is it just a French thing; maybe they are more of a cat society.

Cat 4, Cat 3, Cat 2, Cat 1 and Hors Cat society.

Actually there was an incident with a dog during a stage last year.
Dunno if it got any riders tangled up. Dogs, when they pursue riders
tend to have a tunnel vision thing, they only focus on one rider and
seem oblivious to the presence of dozens of others bearing down on them.
Perhaps instinct has it figured that a herd would avoid a dog and it
wouldn't need to concern itself with prey running it down.

C.M. Burns said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.
I could not imagine a grand tour in the USA (or an equal dog-loving
England) where some moron wouldn't bring his/her dog along to cheer,
bark at, terrorize the passing riders (I know I would).
Or is it just a French thing; maybe they are more of a cat society.

No. The French fancy dogs as much as anybody, maybe even more. You can
expect to see dogs, accompanied by their owners, just about anywhere.

Maybe it's just that the French are more responsible about their dogs
than Americans. Gee, what a surprise...

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C.M. Burns said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.
I could not imagine a grand tour in the USA (or an equal dog-loving
England) where some moron wouldn't bring his/her dog along to cheer,
bark at, terrorize the passing riders (I know I would).
Or is it just a French thing; maybe they are more of a cat society.

No. The French fancy dogs as much as anybody, maybe even more. You can
expect to see dogs, accompanied by their owners, just about anywhere.

Maybe it's just that the French are more responsible about their dogs
than Americans. Gee, what a surprise...

Where do you get that idea????? Been for a walk on the streets of Paris
lately? Compare that with a walk in NYC.

Here's a scene from Sex and the City that was filmed right in front of my
apartment in Paris-
http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/OnTheStreetWhereILive.avi

C.M. Burns said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.
I could not imagine a grand tour in the USA (or an equal dog-loving
England) where some moron wouldn't bring his/her dog along to cheer,
bark at, terrorize the passing riders (I know I would).
Or is it just a French thing; maybe they are more of a cat society.

Actually, I saw one being held on a leash, I believe during Stage 18.
It might have been in a village, though, and not out on the open road,
so to speak.

N.

If it's the street I'm thinking of, my wife almost died there, since
she went down it on roller skates on her second day learning and
it is a downhill grade with cobblestones leading onto an intersection.
Rue Ferou, just in case anyone here is thinking of stalking you.

-ilan

Quoted message said:

Where do you get that idea????? Been for a walk on the streets of Paris
lately? Compare that with a walk in NYC.

Here's a scene from Sex and the City that was filmed right in front of my
apartment in Paris-
http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/OnTheStreetWhereILive.avi

Well, we took our dog http://cf.geocities.com/ilanpi/hedwige.html
to the prologue of Paris-Nice without any incident, but then again
it was zero C out, and she wasn't too frisky.

The main danger so
far in Paris has not been for cyclists, but about our dog (or
us) being run over
by cyclists (or scooters) while walking her on the sidewalk. If you
don't jump out of their way fast enough, you get yelled at. Just a few
hours ago, I was challenged to do battle by a cyclist ("is there a
problem?" is the usual phrase) because I didn't get out of his way
when he rang his little bell on the sidewalk.

-ilan

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In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

Bicycles on the sidewalks?

There's your problem.

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Well, we took our dog http://cf.geocities.com/ilanpi/hedwige.html
to the prologue of Paris-Nice without any incident, but then again
it was zero C out, and she wasn't too frisky.

The main danger so
far in Paris has not been for cyclists, but about our dog (or
us) being run over
by cyclists (or scooters) while walking her on the sidewalk. If you
don't jump out of their way fast enough, you get yelled at. Just a few
hours ago, I was challenged to do battle by a cyclist ("is there a
problem?" is the usual phrase) because I didn't get out of his way
when he rang his little bell on the sidewalk.

-ilan

C.M. Burns a ecrit :

Quoted message said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

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If it's the street I'm thinking of, my wife almost died there, since
she went down it on roller skates on her second day learning and
it is a downhill grade with cobblestones leading onto an intersection.
Rue Ferou, just in case anyone here is thinking of stalking you.

-ilan

Quoted message said:

Where do you get that idea????? Been for a walk on the streets of Paris
lately? Compare that with a walk in NYC.

Here's a scene from Sex and the City that was filmed right in front of my
apartment in Paris-
http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/OnTheStreetWhereILive.avi

You're one street off. It's Rue Servandoni. Which, btw is the street where
D"Artagnan lived in Dumas's book and where Umberto Eco currently lives (at
least part of the time. Athos lived on rue Ferou.

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In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.
I could not imagine a grand tour in the USA (or an equal dog-loving
England) where some moron wouldn't bring his/her dog along to cheer,
bark at, terrorize the passing riders (I know I would).
Or is it just a French thing; maybe they are more of a cat society.

First of all, given the international flavor of many of the roadside
audience, I don't know that any observed behavior can be attributed solely
to the French (except maybe the naked guy running yesterday ;-)

The most overt dog "incident" I know of occurred in 1999 when Guerini (how
appropriate for today's post) was on the way to victory on Alpe d'Huez and a
spectator with a camera jumped in front of him and knocked him over.

As Guerini lay on the ground, a black (ish) dog was standing right over his
head, barking up a storm. He was securely leashed, but the noise, combined
with the shock of the crash and fall, must have really gotten Guerini's
adrenaline skyrocketing.

There is a DVD on Eddy Merckx's Tour of Italy in 1974 that I purchased
recently that shows a dog scampering across the road as the peleton is
approaching. Rider went down, dog was killed. Merckx is shown almost
distraught (he was not the rider) but I am sure that they must have a rule
that you cannot have dogs at these races.

Rooster

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Quoted message said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.
I could not imagine a grand tour in the USA (or an equal dog-loving
England) where some moron wouldn't bring his/her dog along to cheer,
bark at, terrorize the passing riders (I know I would).
Or is it just a French thing; maybe they are more of a cat society.

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There is a DVD on Eddy Merckx's Tour of Italy in 1974 that I purchased
recently that shows a dog scampering across the road as the peleton is
approaching. Rider went down, dog was killed. Merckx is shown almost
distraught (he was not the rider) but I am sure that they must have a rule
that you cannot have dogs at these races.

Rooster

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Quoted message said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.
I could not imagine a grand tour in the USA (or an equal dog-loving
England) where some moron wouldn't bring his/her dog along to cheer,
bark at, terrorize the passing riders (I know I would).
Or is it just a French thing; maybe they are more of a cat society.

A dog took out Hinault at about 20km from the end of Paris-Roubaix. Hinault
got back on and won the race.

trg a écrit :

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and where Umberto Eco currently lives

If your goal was for me never to pass by there, this bit of information
certainly did it.

-ilan

trg said:

Quoted message said:

A dog took out Hinault at about 20km from the end of Paris-Roubaix. Hinault
got back on and won the race.

The dog?

lol

trg said:

A dog took out Hinault at about 20km from the end of Paris-Roubaix. Hinault
got back on and won the race.

But not without taking a chunk out of the dog's ear first,
because he was Hinault and that was how they did it when
real men raced year round.

A pony knocked Zabel off, but Hinault would have knocked
the pony down.

Ben

Hey, if we don't start making legends up now, what are future
generations of Benjo Masos going to have to correct?

[email hidden] wrote:

i tried to reply to your dog post, but my browser refused to cooperate,
so i'm replying here- when you said you had a dog earlier i wanted to
ask about it, but i wasn't sure if you were serious or not. i just
looked at your pictures and your dog is so cute. i always wanted a
westie, they have such cute shiny dark eyes. congratulations 🙂

h

Thanks! I live in a touristy neighbourhood, and it is impossible
to walk more than a couple of feet without hearing: "Oh, he's so cute!"
by another American female on vacation who's missing her dog. We're
thinking of starting a dog rental service for them.

-ilan

h squared a écrit :

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[email hidden] wrote:

i tried to reply to your dog post, but my browser refused to cooperate,
so i'm replying here- when you said you had a dog earlier i wanted to
ask about it, but i wasn't sure if you were serious or not. i just
looked at your pictures and your dog is so cute. i always wanted a
westie, they have such cute shiny dark eyes. congratulations 🙂

h

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:56:37 GMT, C.M. Burns <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

Odessa brings her dogs to the Tour to cheer Levi on -->
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/tour05/?id=tour059/2

J. Spaceman

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Thanks! I live in a touristy neighbourhood, and it is impossible
to walk more than a couple of feet without hearing: "Oh, he's so cute!"
by another American female on vacation who's missing her dog.

I bet they get even more excited when you are out walking with your dog.

NS

C.M. Burns said:

In the few years that I've been able to see live coverage of Tour
stages, I can't ever remember seeing any dogs accompanying any of the
campers/spectators that line the roads.

Quoted message said:

God knows that it would likely be a recipe for disaster but I've seen
plenty of other stupid/dangerous stuff from the fans so I doubt it
comes down to common sense.

What are you talking about! The French love dogs. Why would anyone
think dogs would be a recipe for disaster?

http://www.execpc.com/~cvcc/the-french-love-dogs.jpg

Bob Schwartz
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