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why more puntures in the wet? ssia

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  1. futronic wrote:

    Because water lubricates the items that have a tendency to poke holes in
    your tires.

  2. futronic said:


    I believe that the water makes the bad things
    adhere to the tire, thereby allowing them to
    work in.
    This theory being my own.

    Lubrication seems likely too.
    Either way. That's the way it is.
    WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS?

    I want to know why bicycle tyres aren't
    manufactured in the United States.

    Well?

  3. On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:39:57 -0500, futronic
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Dear F.,

    As Dave already pointed out, water lubricates the sharp
    debris, letting it cut through rubber more easily. The usual
    example is that cutting rubber tubing in a lab with a razor
    blade is much easier if the blade is wet--much of the
    friction between the newly exposed dry rubber and the dry
    blade is eliminated.

    The other reason is that wet pavement encourages more debris
    to try to puncture your tire.

    Normally, most pointy debris lies flat and harmless on the
    road, so your tires roll right over it without injury--you
    can ride right over nails without much fear of a flat tire.

    However, the impact of your front tire sometimes causes a
    piece of debris to bounce up just right to impale your rear
    tire a moment later--the nail is momentarily pointing
    upward, not lying flat.

    The more debris that your front tire flips up, the greater
    the chances that your rear tire will be punctured. Since
    small debris sticks to wet front tires, a great deal more
    debris is flung up when the road is wet and the odds of a
    flat increase substantially.

    Carl Fogel

  4. futronic said:

    why more puntures in the wet?

    To make it harder to repair them.

    Cam

  5. futronic said:


    Have you never heard of Sod's Law?

  6. Cam said:
    futronic said:

    why more puntures in the wet?

    To make it harder to repair them.

    Slush is even worse. I swear it makes staples, wires, and bits of glass
    stand sharp end up, *and* changing a tube on a slushy wheels ia about
    the dirtiest job there is on a bike.

  7. On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:39:57 -0500, futronic
    <[email hidden]> queried:

    Quoted message said:

    why more puntures in the wet?

    The puncturing object is lubricated by water, and can penetrate more
    easily as a result. Some objects that would not puncture a tire when
    dry will go right through when wet.

    That said, I get far fewer punctures in wet weather...because I do a
    lot less riding then!
    --
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  8. wsims1 said:
    futronic said:


    I believe that the water makes the bad things
    adhere to the tire, thereby allowing them to
    work in.
    This theory being my own.

    Lubrication seems likely too.
    Either way. That's the way it is.
    WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS?

    Move to Arizona or Nevada, or build yourself a velodrome.

    Quoted message said:

    I want to know why bicycle tyres aren't
    manufactured in the United States.

    Some were. They were expensive by comparison to imported tires of the
    same quality. Why weren't you buying them?

    --
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  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    futronic <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Because you cannot see broken glass on a wet road.

    --
    Michael Press

  10. water lubricates it lmfao what twaddle is that then...

    it is because in the wet... objects such as broken glass do not show up so
    well on a wet road... so you dont see them and ride straight over them...
    get some slime tube protectors and never get a puncture in the wet again...

    "Dave Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    futronic wrote:

    Because water lubricates the items that have a tendency to poke holes in
    your tires.

  11. pingu said:

    water lubricates it lmfao what twaddle is that then...

    it is because in the wet... objects such as broken glass do not show up so
    well on a wet road... so you dont see them and ride straight over them...
    get some slime tube protectors and never get a puncture in the wet again...

    "Dave Thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    futronic wrote:

    Because water lubricates the items that have a tendency to poke holes in
    your tires.

    Dear Pingu,

    As anything begins to penetrate rubber, its sides are
    pinched tightly by the rubber.

    If the sharp object is dry, its progress is retarded by the
    kind of wonderful friction that led us to use rubber on
    tires.

    If the sharp object is wet, we're reminded why we can't
    corner nearly as well in the rain--water makes rubber
    slippery.

    If you're skeptical that water-lubrication helps cutting
    rubber, take a razor blade or knife and try to cut some dry
    rubber.

    Now try again after wetting the blade.

    This is why lab students are told to wet the razor blade in
    order to cut it neatly with a single slice--otherwise, they
    have to saw back and forth against the increasing friction
    of the sides of the cut on the blade.

    The other reason for more flats in the rain is that much
    more debris sticks to a wet front tire, is flung up, and
    therefore has a better chance of being in a position to
    impale the rear tire.

    Like nails, very little debris actually stands upright in
    hopes of puncturing tires. Without a caltrop-shape, like a
    goathead thorn, you have have to lie in wait for the front
    tire to bounce you upright.

    Carl Fogel

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