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  1. When I posted "Why Alternative Medicine 'Works'", that entertaining stimulus
    generated approximately 125 responses from almost everyone who regularly
    spends time here. Was that a two-day record for a troll?

    A review of the IPs of all the responders suggested that this group is
    actually populated by about seven active posters, each using an average of
    2.13 online personae. Many of them are Jan Drew, whoever he is. So the
    evidence indicates that if you enjoy yourself here, but become offended by
    someone and exercise your killfile right, you may be giving up approximately
    14% of your audience. And worse, if you erase Jan you're giving up most of
    the entertainment.

    As a side note, I wonder how many "regulars" understand how small this
    discussion group really is, and how close to masturbation these debates have
    become.

  2. ...and people like you hide behind no ip's also, so you could be posting as
    the many who mask their IP's
    Maybe you have something to hide llsa?
    Anth

    "Henry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I posted "Why Alternative Medicine 'Works'", that entertaining


    stimulus

    Quoted message said:

    generated approximately 125 responses from almost everyone who regularly
    spends time here. Was that a two-day record for a troll?

    A review of the IPs of all the responders suggested that this group is
    actually populated by about seven active posters, each using an average of
    2.13 online personae. Many of them are Jan Drew, whoever he is. So the
    evidence indicates that if you enjoy yourself here, but become offended by
    someone and exercise your killfile right, you may be giving up


    approximately

    Quoted message said:

    14% of your audience. And worse, if you erase Jan you're giving up most of
    the entertainment.

    As a side note, I wonder how many "regulars" understand how small this
    discussion group really is, and how close to masturbation these debates


    have

    Quoted message said:

    become.

  3. Quoted message said:

    ..and people like you hide behind no ip's also, so you could be posting as
    the many who mask their IP's
    Maybe you have something to hide llsa?
    Anth

    Anth, I'm not Henry. Ask the MHA old-timers.

    Quoted message said:

    "Henry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I posted "Why Alternative Medicine 'Works'", that entertaining


    stimulus

    Quoted message said:

    generated approximately 125 responses from almost everyone who regularly
    spends time here. Was that a two-day record for a troll?

  4. Quoted message said:

    From: "Henry" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/14/2004 10:13 PM Pacific

    Quoted message said:

    A review of the IPs of all the responders suggested that this group is
    actually populated by about seven active posters,

    You mean liars, and more than seven.

    Orac

    Peter Moran

    Peter Bowditch

    Mark Probert

    Andrew Kingoff

    Richard H Jacobson

    Mark Thorson

    David Wright

    And YOU, who came here to stir up trouble.

    Truth is you have no personal experience with alternative medicine, therefore
    you are repeating the lies put forth by organized medicine.

    Facts are alternative medicine keeps growing, the above seven liars, plus
    yourself is the reason.

    Furthermore you memory is slipping Jan Drew is a she.

    Too bad you aren't in the marines and can bark orders.

    Hep big marine scared of a strong woman.

    My killfile works just fine.

    Jan

  5. In article said:

    When I posted "Why Alternative Medicine 'Works'", that entertaining stimulus
    generated approximately 125 responses from almost everyone who regularly
    spends time here. Was that a two-day record for a troll?

    A review of the IPs of all the responders suggested that this group is
    actually populated by about seven active posters, each using an average of
    2.13 online personae. Many of them are Jan Drew, whoever he is. So the
    evidence indicates that if you enjoy yourself here, but become offended by
    someone and exercise your killfile right, you may be giving up approximately
    14% of your audience. And worse, if you erase Jan you're giving up most of
    the entertainment.

    As a side note, I wonder how many "regulars" understand how small this
    discussion group really is, and how close to masturbation these debates have
    become.

    I've wondered about that myself, but I think it's fair to guess that
    there are many readers who never post. Also, other than Ilsa,
    Probert, and that cretin "medtools," I can't think of anyone who does
    frequent ID shifts.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  6. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hep big marine scared of a strong woman.

    Hey Jan!
    That was another Troll-O-Gram! Get it?

    TOG: online post designed to stimulate idiots like Jan to generate
    meaningless self-serving responses, leading to lengthy exchanges among
    similar fools. Occasionally, someone (Wright, for example) introduces an
    element of rationality that slows down the process or diverts it toward
    reason, reducing the entertainment value and the length of the thread. Ah
    well, we can't expect all TOGs to be as effective as WAM"W", which is near
    135 and still moving along... it's almost worth a dissertation!

  7. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Why killfiles don't work here...
    From: "Henry" [email hidden]

    I guess you lied.

    Quoted message said:

    Well -- off for another sabbatical.

    Quoted message said:

    Bye, Jan

    Get your insults straight enry!!

    Jan

  8. In article said:

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hep big marine scared of a strong woman.

    Hey Jan!
    That was another Troll-O-Gram! Get it?

    TOG: online post designed to stimulate idiots like Jan to generate
    meaningless self-serving responses, leading to lengthy exchanges among
    similar fools. Occasionally, someone (Wright, for example) introduces an
    element of rationality

    Please forgive me! I know I'm transgressing when I do that.

    Quoted message said:

    that slows down the process or diverts it toward
    reason, reducing the entertainment value and the length of the thread. Ah
    well, we can't expect all TOGs to be as effective as WAM"W", which is near
    135 and still moving along... it's almost worth a dissertation!

    Oh, I think there are reams of dissertations to be written about this
    kind of thing. One could extract every one of Jan's postings from
    Google and slowly trace her downward slide from minor irritability to
    outright lunacy. It's sad, but it would make for fascinating reading.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  9. Jan the Accuser said:

    You mean liars, and more than seven.

    Orac

    Peter Moran

    Peter Bowditch

    Mark Probert

    Andrew Kingoff

    Richard H Jacobson

    Mark Thorson

    David Wright

    And YOU, who came here to stir up trouble.

    Prove it. You accuse people all the time of lying
    just because they disagree with you, but you NEVER
    back up your accusations with proof.

    Do you need help seeing what PROOF looks like, Jan?

    Here is an example:

    To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com

    Jan said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Mark Thorson [email hidden]

    Instead of responding to what you say, Jan is trying to discredit
    you by making insinuations about who you are or what your
    motives may be.

    Soon, she may accuse you of being on the payroll of the
    pharmaceutical companies, etc. That's the way Jan works.

    That would be ANOTHER LIE from Mark Thorson. I have NEVER accused


    anyone of

    Quoted message said:

    any such thing.

    So do prove your claim Mark!!!!!

    You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!

    ----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com

    Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
    comes from paid shill Mark Probert.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com

    Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com

    As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.

    Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
    http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com

    As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
    he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.

  10. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Why killfiles don't work here...
    From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
    Date: 5/15/2004 7:35 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    In article <[email hidden]>, Henry <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hep big marine scared of a strong woman.

    Hey Jan!
    That was another Troll-O-Gram! Get it?

    TOG: online post designed to stimulate idiots like Jan to generate
    meaningless self-serving responses, leading to lengthy exchanges among
    similar fools. Occasionally, someone (Wright, for example) introduces an
    element of rationality

    Please forgive me! I know I'm transgressing when I do that.

    Quoted message said:

    that slows down the process or diverts it toward
    reason, reducing the entertainment value and the length of the thread. Ah
    well, we can't expect all TOGs to be as effective as WAM"W", which is near
    135 and still moving along... it's almost worth a dissertation!

    Oh, I think there are reams of dissertations to be written about this
    kind of thing. One could extract every one of Jan's postings from
    Google and slowly trace her downward slide from minor irritability to
    outright lunacy. It's sad, but it would make for fascinating reading.

    Quoted message said:

    When you start whining about personalities,don't be surprised that it


    generates comments about your own.
    David Wright

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Jan) said:

    Truth is you have no personal experience with alternative medicine, therefore
    you are repeating the lies put forth by organized medicine.

    Actually I do, both having on occasion used it (it didn't work,
    unfortunately) and on occasion prescribed it. So much for your whine.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

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