Why Jan lost

if he wants to beat Armstrong then he needs to at least get religion about
leg speed.

I disagree with your less muscle mass thesis. Less muscle producing the
same watts actually helps as less mass is being accelerated.

John Bickmore

"TritonRider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Compare how much muscle Jan is carrying in Graham's shot to this years pic
from Casey.
Unbelievable how much he has lost in the quads and hams.

http://www.velonews.com/slideshow.php?article_id=6805&image_id=8855&dir=/i
mages/int/
http://grahamwatson.safeshopper.com/66/248.htm?786
Bill C

In article <UGeVc.41689$mD.12044@attbi_s02>,

xzzy said:

if he wants to beat Armstrong then he needs to at least get religion about
leg speed.

I disagree with your less muscle mass thesis. Less muscle producing the
same watts actually helps as less mass is being accelerated.

John Bickmore

I think Bill's referring to Ullrich losing a lot of muscle mass in a
very short time, just before the Tour. Not giving himself time to stabilize
at that weight.

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Quoted message said:

From: Howard Kveck [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

I think Bill's referring to Ullrich losing a lot of muscle mass in a
very short time, just before the Tour. Not giving himself time to stabilize
at that weight.

--
tanx,
Howard

Some of both Howard. The crash diet was just desperation and stupidity. I'm
sure that contributed to his also getting sick in the first week too. As for
the lost muscle mass, I think that has a lot to do with his attempt to emulate
Lance's higher cadence. Everything we've seen say's he'd been working at that,
and getting lighter. These would be great things if that worked for him, but I
don't think it does.
I'd guess that his sustained power is down because this style doesn't suit
him. He's always been a masher, and that's going to create more muscle mass.
I'd like to hear what Andy thinks about Jan and a higher cadence and about
different bodies being suited to different styles.
Bill C

"TritonRider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Compare how much muscle Jan is carrying in Graham's shot to this years pic
from Casey.
Unbelievable how much he has lost in the quads and hams.

Yeah, he admitted himself he's too light these days. And he still gets
razzed for being fat. Apparently some german paper ran a photo of him
drinking beer at the olympics; it was at a celebration for Zabels 4th place.
Jan is rather [censored] at them. I doubt he was the only person drinking beer,
and it doesnt' seem to have made him any fatter!

Let's face it, if one beer makes you fat we'd all be blimps by now.

"xzzy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<UGeVc.41689$mD.12044@attbi_s02>...

Quoted message said:

if he wants to beat Armstrong then he needs to at least get religion about
leg speed.

i agree. now that lance's leg speed secret is out of the bag he will
be toast next year.

Perhaps. But consider the attached conversation reported between Lemond and
Eddie Coyle.

"Amit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"xzzy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<UGeVc.41689$mD.12044@attbi_s02>...

Quoted message said:

if he wants to beat Armstrong then he needs to at least get religion
about
leg speed.

i agree. now that lance's leg speed secret is out of the bag he will
be toast next year.

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Quoted message said:

i agree. now that lance's leg speed secret is out of the bag he will
be toast next year.

ummm its nothing new is it?

"chester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

i agree. now that lance's leg speed secret is out of the bag he will
be toast next year.

ummm its nothing new is it?

Dammit! It was you who took my hotmail address...

In article <[email hidden]>, chester

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

i agree. now that lance's leg speed secret is out of the bag he will
be toast next year.

ummm its nothing new is it?

It's been around almost as long as sarcasm.

-WG