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  1. Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride not follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question: Why
    are there Americans (the United States kind) racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be
    boycotting everything French?

    Just curious,

    Joe

  2. Joe Shmoe <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride not follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question:
    Why are there Americans (the United States kind) racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be
    boycotting everything French?

    And another thing: Why do bike-racers shave their legs? And another: Cipo is way better
    than Pettacci.

    There, do I win the "troll" race?

  3. You don't boycott Santa Claus or Christmas, no matter who is in the White House. To a biker, the TDF
    is greater in importance than "all of the above."

    Tom

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  4. TimBenz said:

    Joe Shmoe <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride not follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question:
    Why are there Americans (the United States kind) racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be
    boycotting everything French?

    And another thing: Why do bike-racers shave their legs? And another: Cipo is way better than
    Pettacci.

    There, do I win the "troll" race?

    I'm serious here. I thought it would have been a big deal but it's not and I'm just wondering what
    people think of it. If you wish to consider it a "troll" fine, move along to the next thread.

  5. Tom said:


    You don't boycott Santa Claus or Christmas, no matter who is in the White House. To a biker, the
    TDF is greater in importance than "all of the above."

    Tom

    Unless it's Jimmy Carter and the Olympics

  6. <<Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?>>

    No.... and perhaps its because the French were right about their opposition to the U.S. decision to
    "liberate" Iraq. No WMD, bad "intelligence" with regard to Nuclear materials, etc, etc.

    "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride


    not

    Quoted message said:

    follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question: Why are there Americans (the United States kind)
    racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?

    Just curious,

    Joe

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  7. "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride


    not

    Quoted message said:

    follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question: Why are there Americans (the United States kind)
    racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?

    Just curious,

    Joe

    You strike me as just another tird that tries to insult cyclists as way of giving your own self
    esteem a boost.

    "Looki dem cyclists, they shave their legs, dress in ballerina clothes and get in m' way. And now
    they don' even stick up for their country! They must not be true 'merkans."

  8. Quoted message said:

    No.... and perhaps its because the French were right about their


    opposition

    Quoted message said:

    to the U.S. decision to "liberate" Iraq. No WMD, bad "intelligence" with regard to Nuclear
    materials, etc, etc.

    No, it's because we'll see the *real* weapons of mass destruction beginning Saturday! Weapons with
    names like Ullrich, Simoni, Botero, Beloki, Armstrong...

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

  9. Nick Burns said:

    You strike me as just another tird that tries to insult cyclists as way of giving your own self
    esteem a boost.

    "Looki dem cyclists, they shave their legs, dress in ballerina clothes and get in m' way. And now
    they don' even stick up for their country! They must not be true 'merkans."

    You strike me as a semi-literate half-wit but I won't hold that against you; let's blame the
    education system, ok?

    My original post was not an insult, I just wondered why all the flag wavers weren't calling
    Armstrong a "traitor" (for lack of a better word, sorry, it's late).

    Joe

    PS, my self esteem is just jim-dandy as is 🙂

  10. "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Nick Burns said:

    You strike me as just another tird that tries to insult cyclists as way


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    giving your own self esteem a boost.

    "Looki dem cyclists, they shave their legs, dress in ballerina clothes and get in m' way. And
    now they don' even stick up for their country!


    They

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    must not be true 'merkans."

    You strike me as a semi-literate half-wit but I won't hold that against you; let's blame the
    education system, ok?

    My original post was not an insult, I just wondered why all the flag


    wavers

    Quoted message said:

    weren't calling Armstrong a "traitor" (for lack of a better word, sorry, it's late).

    Because he's there to kick the French in there sport........you know really insult them..... Come
    Saturday..........the kicking begins.

    Quoted message said:


    Joe

    PS, my self esteem is just jim-dandy as is 🙂

  11. "jmk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?>>

    No.... and perhaps its because the French were right about their


    opposition

    Quoted message said:

    to the U.S. decision to "liberate" Iraq. No WMD, bad "intelligence" with regard to Nuclear
    materials, etc, etc.

    I don't think that the Postal service see's that way.........try some other real reason........

    Quoted message said:


    "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride


    not

    Quoted message said:

    follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question: Why are there Americans (the United States kind)
    racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    boycotting everything French?

    Just curious,

    Joe

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  12. Joe Shmoe said:

    I'm serious here. I thought it would have been a big deal but it's not and I'm just wondering what
    people think of it. If you wish to consider it a "troll" fine, move along to the next thread.

    I thought you were a troll too but since you insist that you aren't, I'll try to explain it.

    First off, not everyone agrees with the "boycott France" thing. It's kind of a knee-jerk response to
    them not supporting us in the war. It didn't really do anyone any good either. It apparently did
    hurt French tourism a bit. I'm not sure that it helped the U.S. in any way though.

    Even if you support the boycott, there are plenty of good alternatives for most imported
    French products.

    The TdF, on the other hand, has no good alternative. I can't even believe anyone would consider not
    riding because of the political situation. This is the big race of the year in terms of fame, money
    etc. Lance Armstrong in particular has a good chance of making cycling history by becoming the
    second man to win five in succession and the fifth to win five ever. Why would he give that up for
    some silly unofficial boycott? It's not like he's going to have a lot more chances. It also wouldn't
    really hurt France or the French in any way (assuming that was the goal). Not at all. It would be
    completely pointless. Why should he hurt himself?

    --Bill Davidson

  13. jmk said:

    <<Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?>>

    No.... and perhaps its because the French were right about their opposition to the U.S. decision

    Rightly stated but incomplete... By that I mean that GB Jr's policies and wars came along LONG after
    the TdF, and even a few years after Mssr. Armstrong commenced his winning ways. Even Armstrong, a
    perhaps foolish supporter/"friend" of the moronic puppet Bush, has since tried to separate the
    sporting aspect of the le Tour from the politics du jour.

    Troll or no, Joe Shmoe, you're a TOOL if you truly had to ask such a question. More likely, you're a
    Freedom-fry-eating, brown-shirt-wearing, O'Reilly-salutin' kind of non-thinker out to wax up your
    confused,moronic agenda.

    Go away. Dig yourself a bomb shelter and stay in it, por favor!

    -- Julio Steen

  14. Would you know sarcasm if it hit you right on your head?

    Anyways, if anything, Americans would see Lance as sticking it to the French, or the more likely
    scenario is that they just don't care about road cycling.

    "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Nick Burns said:

    You strike me as just another tird that tries to insult cyclists as way


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    giving your own self esteem a boost.

    "Looki dem cyclists, they shave their legs, dress in ballerina clothes and get in m' way. And
    now they don' even stick up for their country!


    They

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    must not be true 'merkans."

    You strike me as a semi-literate half-wit but I won't hold that against you; let's blame the
    education system, ok?

    My original post was not an insult, I just wondered why all the flag


    wavers

    Quoted message said:

    weren't calling Armstrong a "traitor" (for lack of a better word, sorry, it's late).

    Joe

    PS, my self esteem is just jim-dandy as is 🙂

  15. I'm just curious, why are all the flag waving, democracy loving americans not calling for Bush's
    impeachment? Clinton lied about keeping it in his pants, and they attacked him like Jacky Durand on
    Bastile Day. Bush lies about the reasons for his war...

    Nick Burns said:

    "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride


    not

    Quoted message said:

    follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question: Why are there Americans (the United States kind)
    racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?

    Just curious,

    Joe

    You strike me as just another tird that tries to insult cyclists as way of giving your own self
    esteem a boost.

    "Looki dem cyclists, they shave their legs, dress in ballerina clothes and get in m' way. And now
    they don' even stick up for their country! They must not be true 'merkans."

  16. "jmk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?>>

    No.... and perhaps its because the French were right about their


    opposition

    Quoted message said:

    to the U.S. decision to "liberate" Iraq. No WMD, bad "intelligence" with regard to Nuclear
    materials, etc, etc.

    But that's just the reason why many will never forgive the French. It's much easier to forgive
    someone for being wrong.

    Benjo Maso

  17. Joe-<< Why are there Americans (the United States kind) racing in France? Aren't they all supposed
    to be boycotting everything French? >><BR><BR>

    Guess I missed that 'law'....What could be better than have an American(the United States kind)
    rider and team win this french race,,,,again....

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  18. Joe Shmoe said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride not follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question:
    Why are there Americans (the United States kind) racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be
    boycotting everything French?

    You're right! And another thing, why don't they race in those recumbent type bikes? It would be more
    comfortable for them in the long run.

    Lindsay
    ----------------------------
    "One of the annoying things about believing in free will and individual responsibility is the
    difficulty of finding somebody to blame your problems on. And when you do find somebody, it's
    remarkable how often his picture turns up on your driver's license."

    P.J. O'Rourke

  19. Many of the types that would call him a traitor were the ones all ready calling him not a true
    American since he is a cyclist.

    "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Nick Burns said:

    You strike me as just another tird that tries to insult cyclists as way


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    giving your own self esteem a boost.

    "Looki dem cyclists, they shave their legs, dress in ballerina clothes and get in m' way. And
    now they don' even stick up for their country!


    They

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    must not be true 'merkans."

    You strike me as a semi-literate half-wit but I won't hold that against you; let's blame the
    education system, ok?

    My original post was not an insult, I just wondered why all the flag


    wavers

    Quoted message said:

    weren't calling Armstrong a "traitor" (for lack of a better word, sorry, it's late).

    Joe

    PS, my self esteem is just jim-dandy as is 🙂

  20. Because only poorly educated xenophobic racist idiots every got into the boycott idea.

    The reason I am going to France next week is because of my hatred of the boycott. After Mayer
    Bloomberg made his little statement that any American traveling to France this year was a traitor
    and than the should come visit NYC instead sealed my plans to go.

    "Joe Shmoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ok, so this may have been asked, I've spent the last couple of hours (literally!) going through
    various threads (summer's here, time to ride


    not

    Quoted message said:

    follow Usenet!) but I didn't see this question: Why are there Americans (the United States kind)
    racing in France? Aren't they all supposed to be boycotting everything French?

    Just curious,

    Joe

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