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  1. Show the early parts of these stages (14), then cut to the finishing
    miles? They might have a good excuse during the live feed, in that they
    just can't afford to stay on the event for 6 straight hours, but in
    their prime-time show, why can't they make stages like today's about 10X
    more interesting by showing the racing?

    According to the cn.com report as well as Al&Bobke's TV comments, the
    first hour was full of tactical high-speed racing, and here we are
    watching recreational cyclists pace the peloton instead.

    BTW, someday I'll go to France and see the Tour, and I'll run alongside
    the riders. But I've decided to do it on a downhill, just to be different.

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    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
    could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
    instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

  2. "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Show the early parts of these stages (14), then cut to the finishing
    miles? They might have a good excuse during the live feed, in that they
    just can't afford to stay on the event for 6 straight hours, but in
    their prime-time show, why can't they make stages like today's about 10X
    more interesting by showing the racing?

    According to the cn.com report as well as Al&Bobke's TV comments, the
    first hour was full of tactical high-speed racing, and here we are
    watching recreational cyclists pace the peloton instead.

    BTW, someday I'll go to France and see the Tour, and I'll run alongside
    the riders. But I've decided to do it on a downhill, just to be different.

    I thought that was pretty funny with the cyclists. Sometimes you see kids on
    dirt bikes doing the same thing.

    So far, the funniest moment was the cows. Stop for cows! I think I remember
    seeing something like that once, during the tour of spain? A big cow ran
    into the road. And we have a photo of some ONCE guy, I don't know who,
    caught behind a big herd of sheep. Or goats? Definitely from the tour of
    spain.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Why doesn't OLN...
    From: Raptor [email hidden]
    Date: 7/18/04 9:37 PM Central Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Show the early parts of these stages (14), then cut to the finishing
    miles? They might have a good excuse during the live feed, in that they
    just can't afford to stay on the event for 6 straight hours, but in
    their prime-time show, why can't they make stages like today's about 10X
    more interesting by showing the racing?

    what interesting part of the race didn't you see? You saw the breakaway that
    finally made it ... you saw the guy who overpowered the break and won. You also
    saw the field sprint for green jersey points.

    I'm sure there was more in the live coverage, but I missed it today.

    OLN can only show what the rest of the world gets ... they don't have their own
    motorcycle cameras on the road. So, when the rest of the world gets live
    coverage, so do we. This holds true for the Giro and the Vuelta.

    Did'ja ever hear the stories of old when the racers would just plod along
    easily until the helicopters would show up ... then they would start racing??

    jw

  4. "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Show the early parts of these stages (14), then cut to the finishing
    miles? They might have a good excuse during the live feed, in that they
    just can't afford to stay on the event for 6 straight hours, but in
    their prime-time show, why can't they make stages like today's about 10X
    more interesting by showing the racing?

    As I understand it, OLN takes its video feed directly from the French, and
    they don't show the first part of the race.

  5. Raptor said:

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    Quoted message said:

    Show the early parts of these stages (14), then cut to the finishing
    miles? They might have a good excuse during the live feed, in that they
    just can't afford to stay on the event for 6 straight hours, but in
    their prime-time show, why can't they make stages like today's about 10X
    more interesting by showing the racing?

    Bestest Handsander said:

    As I understand it, OLN takes its video feed directly from the French, and
    they don't show the first part of the race.

    For the long mountain stages such as on Saturday, we get coverage from
    the start at 11AM (Central European) to the end, although the
    Liggett/Sherwin commentary only comes in later on, presumably when the US
    feed starts.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Show the early parts of these stages (14), then cut to the finishing
    miles? They might have a good excuse during the live feed, in that they
    just can't afford to stay on the event for 6 straight hours, but in
    their prime-time show, why can't they make stages like today's about 10X
    more interesting by showing the racing?

    Actually, they really have no excuse. July on OLN is TDF month. Their
    highest ratings ever were last year during the TDF. They also repeat
    the day's coverage so much that I don't see why they don't cut out some
    of the repeat coverage and give us some of the early coverage.

    Quoted message said:

    According to the cn.com report as well as Al&Bobke's TV comments, the
    first hour was full of tactical high-speed racing, and here we are
    watching recreational cyclists pace the peloton instead.

    Probably the exception rather than the rule.

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, someday I'll go to France and see the Tour, and I'll run alongside
    the riders. But I've decided to do it on a downhill, just to be different.

    Interesting. I know that I've watched the descents and there are long
    stretches of the road where there are no spectators at all. On the climbs
    you always see at least a few throughout the entire climb.
    -------------
    Alex

  7. J999w said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Why doesn't OLN...
    From: Raptor [email hidden]
    Date: 7/18/04 9:37 PM Central Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Show the early parts of these stages (14), then cut to the finishing
    miles? They might have a good excuse during the live feed, in that they
    just can't afford to stay on the event for 6 straight hours, but in
    their prime-time show, why can't they make stages like today's about 10X
    more interesting by showing the racing?

    what interesting part of the race didn't you see? You saw the breakaway that
    finally made it ... you saw the guy who overpowered the break and won. You also
    saw the field sprint for green jersey points.

    Based on the cyclingnews full & live reports, there was constant
    attacking in the first hour. Voeckler even tried to get in a break.
    Hincapie said they rode hard for three hours, though we saw much of that
    and it didn't look that hard to me.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure there was more in the live coverage, but I missed it today.

    Same here, because of a cable outage.

    Quoted message said:

    OLN can only show what the rest of the world gets ... they don't have their own
    motorcycle cameras on the road. So, when the rest of the world gets live
    coverage, so do we. This holds true for the Giro and the Vuelta.

    It may be only on the mountain stages, but I've heard that European
    audiences often get to see more than we.

    Quoted message said:

    Did'ja ever hear the stories of old when the racers would just plod along
    easily until the helicopters would show up ... then they would start racing??

    Sounds like the Giro on a typical day.

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
    could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
    instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

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