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  1. My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side of my brain
    feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and experienced that both
    hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the ring 'evenly' into my
    brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i looked up in Google, i
    discovered someone else has had the same observation.

    I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not cause T.
    But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my left ear than
    evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my bp regime, it does have an
    impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or imaginary?

    I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the one with
    the content of 'chloride' in it.

    THX

    FP

  2. Dear FP:

    There is very little that anyone can really do to help other than to share their experiences. Most
    of us hae achieved the peace you seek, but at times, in different ways. The good news is that it
    ALWAYS get easier to deal with...sometimes sooner and sometimes later. From my own personal
    experience, and from participating here for 7 years, I am certain of one thing. A fervent analsis of
    every aspect of your tinnitus and every possible cure and treatment will delay your process of
    habituaion or acclimation. In my opinion this is what you are doing. I offer this as an observation,
    not a criticism, as I have been there, done that.

    Wishing you peace in this process,

    PaulS

  3. Perhaps diurectics that is so commonly used does cause tinnitus in some people.

    Take a look at the following:

    search.yahoo.comsearch
    web-t&SpellState=

    FP
    ========================================================

    "PaulS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Dear FP:

    There is very little that anyone can really do to help other than to share their experiences. Most
    of us hae achieved the peace you seek, but at times, in different ways. The good news is that it
    ALWAYS get easier to deal with...sometimes sooner and sometimes later. From my own personal
    experience, and from participating here for 7 years, I am certain of one thing. A fervent analsis
    of every aspect of your tinnitus and every possible cure and treatment will delay your process of
    habituaion or acclimation. In my opinion this is what you are doing. I offer this as an
    observation, not a criticism, as I have been there, done that.

    Wishing you peace in this process,

    PaulS

  4. "PaulS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A fervent analsis of every aspect of your tinnitus and every possible cure and treatment will
    delay your process of habituaion or acclimation.

    Tinnitus is such a mean beast. Having suffered from it for 21 years, I can tell you it is enough to
    drive you over the edge at times. Mine was/is accompanied by Meniere's Syndrome. I had a chemical
    labyrinthectomy to solve the symptoms of that disease but the tinnitus, even in the presence of
    total hearing loss in the offending ear, persists.

    I tried every trick in the book. Consulted every doc I could find. Wasted countless days scouring
    the Internet (and the operative word there is "wasted"😉. The end result is you make peace with your
    problem. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. The researcher who solves tinnitus will be one
    wealthy person. I have hopes it will happen in my lifetime.

    Regards,

    Glenn

  5. francispoon said:

    My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side of my brain
    feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and experienced that both
    hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the ring 'evenly' into my
    brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i looked up in Google, i
    discovered someone else has had the same observation.

    I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not cause T.
    But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my left ear than
    evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my bp regime, it does have an
    impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or imaginary?

    If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is immaterial.

    Quoted message said:


    I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the one
    with the content of 'chloride' in it.

    Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.

    Quoted message said:


    THX

    FP

    You are welcome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  6. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side of my
    brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and experienced that both
    hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the ring 'evenly' into
    my brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i looked up in Google, i
    discovered someone else has had the same observation.

    I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not cause
    T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my left ear
    than evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my bp regime, it does
    have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or imaginary?

    If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is immaterial.

    The best answer so far....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the one
    with the content of 'chloride' in it.

    Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.

    Agreed. But in this case it moves the ring from the left to the whole head or into the brain. It
    does not cause it but 'moves' it.

    Make any sense to you? Does it have that property which squeezes liquid out of the migraine in one
    side and the sensation is felt on the other side.

    FP
    ====================>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    THX

    FP

    You are welcome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

  7. [email hidden] (Glenn) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "PaulS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A fervent analsis of every aspect of your tinnitus and every possible cure and treatment will
    delay your process of habituaion or acclimation.

    Tinnitus is such a mean beast. Having suffered from it for 21 years, I can tell you it is enough
    to drive you over the edge at times. Mine was/is accompanied by Meniere's Syndrome. I had a
    chemical labyrinthectomy to solve the symptoms of that disease but the tinnitus, even in the
    presence of total hearing loss in the offending ear, persists.

    I tried every trick in the book. Consulted every doc I could find.

    Consult an unorthodox doctor...

    FP
    =====================

    Quoted message said:

    Wasted countless days scouring the Internet (and the operative word there is "wasted"😉. The end
    result is you make peace with your problem. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. The researcher
    who solves tinnitus will be one wealthy person. I have hopes it will happen in my lifetime.

    Regards,

    Glenn

  8. [email hidden] (Glenn) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "PaulS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A fervent analsis of every aspect of your tinnitus and every possible cure and treatment will
    delay your process of habituaion or acclimation.

    Tinnitus is such a mean beast. Having suffered from it for 21 years, I can tell you it is enough
    to drive you over the edge at times. Mine was/is accompanied by Meniere's Syndrome. I had a
    chemical labyrinthectomy to solve the symptoms of that disease but the tinnitus, even in the
    presence of total hearing loss in the offending ear, persists.

    I tried every trick in the book. Consulted every doc I could find.

    Consult an unorthodox doctor...

    FP
    =====================

    Quoted message said:

    Wasted countless days scouring the Internet (and the operative word there is "wasted"😉. The end
    result is you make peace with your problem. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. The researcher
    who solves tinnitus will be one wealthy person. I have hopes it will happen in my lifetime.

    Regards,

    Glenn

  9. francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side of my
    brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and experienced that
    both hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the ring
    'evenly' into my brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i looked
    up in Google, i discovered someone else has had the same observation.

    I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not cause
    T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my left ear
    than evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my bp regime, it
    does have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or imaginary?

    If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is immaterial.

    The best answer so far....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the one
    with the content of 'chloride' in it.

    Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.

    Agreed. But in this case it moves the ring from the left to the whole head or into the brain. It
    does not cause it but 'moves' it.

    Make any sense to you?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    Does it have that property which squeezes liquid out of the migraine in one side and the
    sensation is felt on the other side.

    Suspect it it increasing the tinnitus in the right ear.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  10. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side of my
    brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and experienced that both
    hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the ring 'evenly' into
    my brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i looked up in Google, i
    discovered someone else has had the same observation.

    I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not cause
    T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my left ear
    than evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my bp regime, it does
    have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or imaginary?

    If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is immaterial.

    Quoted message said:


    I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the one
    with the content of 'chloride' in it.

    Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.

    How about CHLORIDE in general? When my doctor prescribed FLURAZINE CHLORIDE to me in order to
    increase blood circulation of the head, I discovered that this medicine _also_ has the property of
    'moving' the ring from my left ear into the brain. When I cut down the amount from 10mg to 5 mg, it
    tended to move 'less' to the right. I don't think it was imaginary. Both Dyazide and FLURAZINE
    CHLORIDE, when interacting with Zestril, tended to lower my blood pressure too. The results were
    recorded clearly on the meter.

    FP
    ====================================

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    THX

    FP

    You are welcome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

  11. [email hidden] (Glenn) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "PaulS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A fervent analsis of every aspect of your tinnitus and every possible cure and treatment will
    delay your process of habituaion or acclimation.

    Tinnitus is such a mean beast. Having suffered from it for 21 years, I can tell you it is enough
    to drive you over the edge at times. Mine was/is accompanied by Meniere's Syndrome. I had a
    chemical labyrinthectomy to solve the symptoms of that disease but the tinnitus, even in the
    presence of total hearing loss in the offending ear, persists.

    I tried every trick in the book. Consulted every doc I could find.

    I am going through a treatment in a traditional Chinese medical college. The doctor, who is also a
    professor, calls T a "kidney disease". Do you have a scientific way by which you could tell if your
    kidney is in trouble? There are two characteristics when the kidny is not working properly🙁1)a
    dried mouth or the secretion of the saliva is very little and (2)the ringing takes the form of a
    high frequency buzz...

    FP
    ================================

    Quoted message said:

    Wasted countless days scouring the Internet (and the operative word there is "wasted"😉. The end
    result is you make peace with your problem. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. The researcher
    who solves tinnitus will be one wealthy person. I have hopes it will happen in my lifetime.

    Regards,

    Glenn

  12. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    francispoon wrote:


    snipped...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the one
    with the content of 'chloride' in it.

    Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.


    PLEASE LOOK AT 'CHLORIDE' IN GENERAL!!!!!!!!!

    search.yahoo.comsearch
    t&SpellState=

    "CHLORIDE could generate tinnitus or ringing in the ear especially amongst the elderly..."

    FP
    ====================================

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    THX

    FP

    You are welcome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

  13. [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    francispoon wrote:


    snipped...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the one
    with the content of 'chloride' in it.

    Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.


    PLEASE LOOK AT 'CHLORIDE' IN GENERAL!!!!!!!!!

    search.yahoo.comsearch
    t&SpellState=

    "CHLORIDE could generate tinnitus or ringing in the ear especially amongst the elderly..."

    FP

    Salt is sodium chloride, Francis.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  14. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    francispoon wrote:

    > My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side of my
    > brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and experienced that
    > both hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the ring
    > 'evenly' into my brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i
    > looked up in Google, i discovered someone else has had the same observation.
    >
    > I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not
    > cause T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my
    > left ear than evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my bp
    > regime, it does have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or
    > imaginary?
    >

    If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is immaterial.

    The best answer so far....

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the
    > one with the content of 'chloride' in it.
    >

    Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.

    Agreed. But in this case it moves the ring from the left to the whole head or into the brain. It
    does not cause it but 'moves' it.

    Make any sense to you?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    Does it have that property which squeezes liquid out of the migraine in one side and the
    sensation is felt on the other side.

    Suspect it it increasing the tinnitus in the right ear.

    I took away Dyazide this morning and replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The combination of 10 mg of
    Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil has produced a bp of 135-150//75-88. But the beauty is the ring is now
    predominantly confined to the left side of my head and has left my right side 'silent'. This
    scenario is more acceptable than before. Praise the Lord! I am thinking of changing the regimen to
    5mg of Plendil and 5 mg of Zestril and see how it will work. The Book of I Ching says it will work.
    Actually 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of a 24 hours acting beta-blocker will do better but beta blocker
    produces impotence in me and therefore I for the time being stick to ACE inhibitor as a co-partner
    in my bp regimen. I was thinking of asking you to give it some thought to a pill that can be taken
    with my bp pills and is used for controlling migraine. But Plendil seems to have done the job of
    neutralizing the migraine for whatever quasi-scientific/imaginary reasons.

    Comments?

    FP

    Quoted message said:


    Humbly,

    Andrew

  15. francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...
    > francispoon wrote:
    >
    > > My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side of
    > > my brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and experienced
    > > that both hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the
    > > ring 'evenly' into my brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When
    > > i looked up in Google, i discovered someone else has had the same observation.
    > >
    > > I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not
    > > cause T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my
    > > left ear than evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my bp
    > > regime, it does have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or
    > > imaginary?
    > >
    >
    > If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is immaterial.

    The best answer so far....

    > >
    > > I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the
    > > one with the content of 'chloride' in it.
    > >
    >
    > Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.

    Agreed. But in this case it moves the ring from the left to the whole head or into the brain.
    It does not cause it but 'moves' it.

    Make any sense to you?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    Does it have that property which squeezes liquid out of the migraine in one side and the
    sensation is felt on the other side.

    Suspect it it increasing the tinnitus in the right ear.

    I took away Dyazide this morning and replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The combination of 10 mg
    of Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil has produced a bp of 135-150//75-88. But the beauty is the ring
    is now predominantly confined to the left side of my head and has left my right side 'silent'.
    This scenario is more acceptable than before. Praise the Lord! I am thinking of changing the
    regimen to 5mg of Plendil and 5 mg of Zestril and see how it will work. The Book of I Ching says
    it will work. Actually 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of a 24 hours acting beta-blocker will do better but
    beta blocker produces impotence in me and therefore I for the time being stick to ACE inhibitor as
    a co-partner in my bp regimen. I was thinking of asking you to give it some thought to a pill that
    can be taken with my bp pills and is used for controlling migraine. But Plendil seems to have done
    the job of neutralizing the migraine for whatever quasi-scientific/imaginary reasons.

    Comments?

    Plendil can lessen migraines.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  16. You are a walking chemistry set. I suggest you stop that [censored] before it kills you.

    "francispoon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

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    > francispoon wrote:
    >
    > > My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left


    ear

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    > > and the left side of my brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time


    and

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    > > time again i have discovered and experienced that both hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine
    > > chloride have the tendency of moving the ring 'evenly' into my brain as the day develops
    > > and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i looked up in Google, i discovered someone else
    > > has had the same observation.
    > >
    > > I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not
    > > cause T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in my
    > > left ear than


    evenly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    > > throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my


    bp

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    Quoted message said:

    > > regime, it does have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the


    brain.

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    > > Is this real or imaginary?
    > >
    >
    > If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is


    immaterial.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    The best answer so far....

    > >
    > > I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially the
    > > one with the content of 'chloride'


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > it.
    > >
    >
    > Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.

    Agreed. But in this case it moves the ring from the left to the whole head or into the brain.
    It does not cause it but 'moves' it.

    Make any sense to you?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    Does it have that property which squeezes liquid out of the migraine in one side and the
    sensation is felt on the other side.

    Suspect it it increasing the tinnitus in the right ear.

    I took away Dyazide this morning and replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The combination of 10 mg
    of Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil has produced a bp of 135-150//75-88. But the beauty is the ring
    is now predominantly confined to the left side of my head and has left my right side 'silent'.
    This scenario is more acceptable than before. Praise the Lord! I am thinking of changing the
    regimen to 5mg of Plendil and 5 mg of Zestril and see how it will work. The Book of I Ching says
    it will work. Actually 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of a 24 hours acting beta-blocker will do better but
    beta blocker produces impotence in me and therefore I for the time being stick to ACE inhibitor as
    a co-partner in my bp regimen. I was thinking of asking you to give it some thought to a pill that
    can be taken with my bp pills and is used for controlling migraine. But Plendil seems to have done
    the job of neutralizing the migraine for whatever quasi-scientific/imaginary reasons.

    Comments?

    FP

    Quoted message said:


    Humbly,

    Andrew

  17. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    francispoon wrote:

    > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > francispoon wrote:
    > >
    > > > My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left ear and the left side
    > > > of my brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time and time again i have discovered and
    > > > experienced that both hydrochloridethiazide and flurazine chloride have the tendency of
    > > > moving the ring 'evenly' into my brain as the day develops and sometimes into a full
    > > > fledged T! When i looked up in Google, i discovered someone else has had the same
    > > > observation.
    > > >
    > > > I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not
    > > > cause T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in
    > > > my left ear than evenly throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my
    > > > bp regime, it does have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the brain. Is this real or
    > > > imaginary?
    > > >
    > >
    > > If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is immaterial.
    >
    > The best answer so far....
    >
    > > >
    > > > I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially
    > > > the one with the content of 'chloride' in it.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.
    >
    > Agreed. But in this case it moves the ring from the left to the whole head or into the
    > brain. It does not cause it but 'moves' it.
    >
    > Make any sense to you?

    Yes.

    > Does it have that property which squeezes liquid out of the migraine in one side and the
    > sensation is felt on the other side.
    >

    Suspect it it increasing the tinnitus in the right ear.

    I took away Dyazide this morning and replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The combination of 10
    mg of Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil has produced a bp of 135-150//75-88. But the beauty is the
    ring is now predominantly confined to the left side of my head and has left my right side
    'silent'. This scenario is more acceptable than before. Praise the Lord! I am thinking of
    changing the regimen to 5mg of Plendil and 5 mg of Zestril and see how it will work. The Book of
    I Ching says it will work. Actually 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of a 24 hours acting beta-blocker
    will do better but beta blocker produces impotence in me and therefore I for the time being
    stick to ACE inhibitor as a co-partner in my bp regimen. I was thinking of asking you to give it
    some thought to a pill that can be taken with my bp pills and is used for controlling migraine.
    But Plendil seems to have done the job of neutralizing the migraine for whatever quasi-
    scientific/imaginary reasons.

    Comments?

    Plendil can lessen migraines.

    About 3-4 months ago, my T came to me 'at the time' when hydrochloridethiazide was introduced into
    my bp regimen. The T was later exacerbated 'at the time' when Zestril had been introduced. These
    could have been 2 correlational relationships.

    Yesterday(Jan 28), i did away with Dyazide but replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The noise was 60%
    reduced and confined to the left side of the ear/brain in the form of low frequency buzz. I took 10
    mg of Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil in the morning. From 10am to 3pm, it was quite tolerably quiet.
    This combination did produced high upper blood pressure 138-160/75-90 on first day.

    Today(Jan 29), no Dyazide again, and I took 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of Zestril early in the morning.
    The addition of 2.5 mg of Plendil gave me a bit of a fast heartbeat for the initial hour and
    constipation. After that, a bit of high frequency buzz has been experienced in my right side but
    'total silence' in my left ear/brain! So i experienced a head tightness 'shift', which could have
    been due to anything. After 3pm, the high frequency buzz continues but the level of noise has been
    reduced in my right side, but practically nothing is recorded on my left ear/brain.

    Stay with me, brother, as i am in the process of finding out if it is the drug interaction that did
    the T to me.

    Rdg.,

    FP
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    Humbly,

    Andrew

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    You are a walking chemistry set. I suggest you stop that [censored] before it kills you.

    Be patient with me, brother, as i am in the process of finding out if it is the drug interaction
    that did the T to me.

    FP
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    francispoon wrote:

    > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    > > francispoon wrote:
    > >
    > > > My tinnitus starts in the morning with a low key ring in my left


    ear

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    > > > and the left side of my brain feels a bit of a migraine. Time


    and

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    > > > time again i have discovered and experienced that both hydrochloridethiazide and
    > > > flurazine chloride have the tendency of moving the ring 'evenly' into my brain as the
    > > > day develops and sometimes into a full fledged T! When i looked up in Google, i
    > > > discovered someone else has had the same observation.
    > > >
    > > > I was advised that hydrochloridethiazide is used to treat tinnitus patients and does not
    > > > cause T. But if that is how it treats my tinnitus, I would rather have the ring left in
    > > > my left ear than


    evenly

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    > > > throughout my brain. When i cut down the amount of Dyazide in my


    bp

    Quoted message said:
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    > > > regime, it does have an impact of 'moving less' ring into the


    brain.

    Quoted message said:
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    > > > Is this real or imaginary?
    > > >
    > >
    > > If it is real to you, whether anyone thinks it is imaginary is


    immaterial.

    Quoted message said:
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    >
    > The best answer so far....
    >
    > > >
    > > > I am wondering if someone here has had this observation with diurectics and especially
    > > > the one with the content of 'chloride'


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > it.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Tinnitus would be a rare side effect of diuretics.
    >
    > Agreed. But in this case it moves the ring from the left to the whole head or into the
    > brain. It does not cause it but 'moves' it.
    >
    > Make any sense to you?

    Yes.

    > Does it have that property which squeezes liquid out of the migraine in one side and the
    > sensation is felt on the other side.
    >

    Suspect it it increasing the tinnitus in the right ear.

    I took away Dyazide this morning and replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The combination of 10
    mg of Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil has produced a bp of 135-150//75-88. But the beauty is the
    ring is now predominantly confined to the left side of my head and has left my right side
    'silent'. This scenario is more acceptable than before. Praise the Lord! I am thinking of
    changing the regimen to 5mg of Plendil and 5 mg of Zestril and see how it will work. The Book of
    I Ching says it will work. Actually 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of a 24 hours acting beta-blocker
    will do better but beta blocker produces impotence in me and therefore I for the time being
    stick to ACE inhibitor as a co-partner in my bp regimen. I was thinking of asking you to give it
    some thought to a pill that can be taken with my bp pills and is used for controlling migraine.
    But Plendil seems to have done the job of neutralizing the migraine for whatever quasi-
    scientific/imaginary reasons.

    Comments?

    FP

    Quoted message said:


    Humbly,

    Andrew

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    Yesterday(Jan 28), i did away with Dyazide but replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The noise
    was 60% reduced and confined to the left side of the ear/brain in the form of low frequency
    buzz. I took 10 mg of Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil in the morning. From 10am to 3pm, it was
    quite tolerably quiet. This combination did produced high upper blood pressure 138-160/75-90 on
    first day.

    Today(Jan 29), no Dyazide again, and I took 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of Zestril early in the
    morning. The addition of 2.5 mg of Plendil gave me a bit of a fast heartbeat for the initial hour
    and constipation. After that, a bit of high frequency buzz has been experienced in my right side
    but 'total silence' in my left ear/brain! So i experienced a head tightness 'shift', which could
    have been due to anything. After 3pm, the high frequency buzz continues but the level of noise has
    been reduced in my right side, but practically nothing is recorded on my left ear/brain.

    Stay with me, brother, as i am in the process of finding out if it is the drug interaction that
    did the T to me.

    Good luck, Francis

    Way, way back in the early months of my own T, when I used to listen to it all the time, it's
    characteristics changed independent of diet and medication. What you are describing in run-of-the-
    mill tinnitus, not likely to have any relationship to the meds you take.

    Bill

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    "francispoon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday(Jan 28), i did away with Dyazide but replaced it with 2.5 mg of Plendil. The noise
    was 60% reduced and confined to the left side of the ear/brain in the form of low frequency
    buzz. I took 10 mg of Zestril and 2.5 mg of Plendil in the morning. From 10am to 3pm, it was
    quite tolerably quiet. This combination did produced high upper blood pressure 138-160/75-90 on
    first day.

    Today(Jan 29), no Dyazide again, and I took 5mg of Plendil and 5mg of Zestril early in the
    morning. The addition of 2.5 mg of Plendil gave me a bit of a fast heartbeat for the initial
    hour and constipation. After that, a bit of high frequency buzz has been experienced in my right
    side but 'total silence' in my left ear/brain! So i experienced a head tightness 'shift', which
    could have been due to anything. After 3pm, the high frequency buzz continues but the level of
    noise has been reduced in my right side, but practically nothing is recorded on my left
    ear/brain.

    Stay with me, brother, as i am in the process of finding out if it is the drug interaction that
    did the T to me.

    Good luck, Francis

    Way, way back in the early months of my own T, when I used to listen to it all the time, it's
    characteristics changed independent of diet and medication. What you are describing in run-of-the-
    mill tinnitus, not likely to have any relationship to the meds you take.


    I think the way by which the blood vessels are dilated makes a difference.

    FP

    Quoted message said:


    Bill

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